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Ayame

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I don't understand what the question is. Probably you have an employee with low honor who is stealing.
The problem is: Mr. ??? warned me from the security office that an employee was stealing my money (??? is a name, no photo or identity) At that time I had not hired anyone to act as a bouncer (a ghost?)

Normally, NPCs (characters not the player, explaining for the translator) will tell you if they become bi after going over a threshold. I've had it happen that they are stuck as well, Fluke gave me this command for the console to correct it:
Is my player with 100% bi but not become bi

Unfortunately again I don't understand what the question is. When you cum while fucking somebody's ass, that's where the load will go.
Is my player is fucked in the ass with a dildo by a woman and cum in her ass

Unfortunately again I do not understand the question. Unfortunately here it really seems to be a translation issue.
is no translation issue I copied it from the game letter by letter

basically if I ask my girlfriend to tell me about her boyfriend the information screen tells me that either she doesn't have one or I don't know him (but it's me)
 
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Thanks for the information.

The problem is: Mr. ??? warned me from the security office that an employee was stealing my money (??? is a name, no photo or identity) At that time I had not hired anyone to act as a bouncer (a ghost?)
Or an anonymous ratting out? Let's wait for Fluke's answer.

Is my player with 100% bi but not become bi
Player would be ID 3, but I doubt the script would work on him and maybe even break things not immediately. It makes me bi for now in the game, so

Code:
run &bi_cur::become_bi char:3 true
Again: not recommended, may break things in the background, but for starters it seems to work.

Is my player is fucked in the ass with a dildo by a woman and cum in her ass
Probably a result of "symmetrical sex": anal is anal no matter who is giving and who is receiving (in most instances), same issue: you can cum in her mouth while going down on her. Again, Fluke may see an easy fix or say it ain't worth it.

is no translation issue I copied it from the game letter by letter

basically if I ask my girlfriend to tell me about her boyfriend the information screen tells me that either she doesn't have one or I don't know him (but it's me)
Ah okay. I didn't notice where the quote was starting. That is meant to be a talk about (possible) other boyfriends/girlfriends, giving you options to badmouth them and similar. Wouldn't make sense to include you. Maybe the output could do a quick check and say something like "You wanted to talk to your girlfriend about her partner but she doesn't have one apart from you or you don't know them.
 
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There an issue that sometimes, there's the dialog box that shows up but there's no text and two choices. If i select the first option, i go the alleyway and have paid for a sex worker. However, the girl is not a sex worker it is a bartender.
 

Ayame

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There an issue that sometimes, there's the dialog box that shows up but there's no text and two choices. If i select the first option, i go the alleyway and have paid for a sex worker. However, the girl is not a sex worker it is a bartender.
It happened to me a couple of times with and without description more or less they should be people with debts who prostitute themselves (it happened to me with a 100% gay woman who didn't refuse to have sex with a man)
 

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Anyways, is it intentional that the family cannot be messaged via phone? I suppose it is, since they are story relevant and you shouldn't mess with them before the story gets completed, but I though I would mention it here, too.
Yes it is. After you reach the end of the investor's family story so far, they are marked as "away" so they don't wander the map and they can't be reached. Mostly so that you don't mess with them and make whatever comes next make no sense.

I don't know how feasible it is however with city councilors I really like the option to persuade them by hiring their family members but I think there is some room to expand it. For example once you have a family member working for you, it would be logical that you could leverage that to get them to vote for in your favor by either threatening to fire the family member or if the council member is less lewd to move that family member into a more extreme role in your business so like to become a stripper from a waitress sort of thing.

With that in mind perhaps you could leverage the blackmail material in the game to be more useful so that you could force them to convince a family member to work for you thus giving you more permanent leverage over them.

On an unrelated note, is there anyway to lower peoples salaries, I know in lab rats 2 (at least in the reformulated mod) you can convince workers either through a punishment or a bad review to take a lower salary, I think those would work here well also I think it might be cool if with the cult you could convince workers who join your cult to work for you for less as a part their cult work as a way to further your cults goals or perhaps even working for you for free if they are particularly devoted.

Speaking of the cult, once you gain control of it, the goals of the cult are quite different, should game restrictions on membership like people who are very lewd or hold slutty beliefs be lifted at some point with how corrupted the cult can become. Also if you have cult members working for you it should increase the chance they convert their coworkers and patrons to you club based on the number of cult members working for you.
Honestly the getting the commissioner's child to work for you happens very rarely as it requires a special kind of commissioner. Not sure it's worth to invest more time on a story that so infrequent. Also, giving you more permanent leverage is a bit overpowered and there's a way to do that that's a bit more work so it will kind of make the elect a puppet process kind of pointless.

As for the cult, that's a bit of an inconsistency that the game doesn't explain. In my mind at least, you pretend the club's purpose hasn't changed and you essentially get them to become more lewd without them realizing what's going on. So to them, they still think they are doing moral and decency stuff. The story could handle that better. As for convincing co-workers that already happens. An NPC's ability to convince someone else to join depends on the same factors as yours, and they co-workers are going to be more likely to be asked to join and to be convinced simply because they will be in the same room more often thus increasing the chances of that interaction happening. Them being co-workers will also tend to improve their opinions of each other making the convincing process more likely to happen as well.


Another bug/idiosyncrasy I encountered: a girl told me she was pregnant from me. Next day she asked me to pay to increase her fertility. I think when she is already pregnant, that shouldn't be necessary for at least a couple of months.

Oh, and while I am at it: when becoming a father, the likes for the mother's post come flooding in before the notification that the mother posted it. Maybe a small switcheroo would be nice here.
The first one since you and someone else both saw is obviously an issue, but I have no idea how. The code is pretty clear that it should only fire on non-pregnant people (and a bunch of other conditions). I have no idea how that's happening. I need to see it and I haven't. I can't force it as that bypasses the check so won't tell me anything.

The second one there's a posting made by you about the child being born that's automatic. I'm not sure if you missed the message about it or maybe it wasn't clear enough. I did rework that text recently so maybe it was the later.

Is there no longer enough books to get your work skills up to 100? ive got my sex skills up, but havent seen any work books in ages.
There's 5 books for each skill. There's no guarantee that they will get you to 100 skill level. In fact I would guess that they won't in most cases. This was always the case.

1)-So,i got this textmessage from one of my employees:

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Shouldnt it say "YOU need to do something about it"?

2)-A strange situation occured...
I have a mom and daughter working as sex workers for me,this duo bumps the clubfame from time to time which is nice.
Now to the strange part:
The mom proposes she should work also as sexworker(which she already does) to make the club more popular.
I get then an option to accept or decline the idea.
If i accept, the mom accepts all of sudden an offer from other club and leaves.

3)-Sometimes i get also invites to a game with a text like this (i am bad a this lol):
"??? is bored and wants to play a game. Will you accept the invite of ???"

So i think the ??? person is someone i havent met yet, yet no stranger is shown in my game room when i am there.
Maybe the choice of accepting the invite should transfer us to the game room?
Could work like when a Commisionar is at our club and we are transfered there if we wont to meet them?
1. Will be fixed on the next version.
2. Definitively a bug. I'll have to look into it.
3. Also reported already and will be fixed on the next version.

If there are errors it is the translator's fault my english is not the best :)

Mr. ??? warned me from the security office that an employee was stealing my money (too bad I hadn't hired any bouncers yet) ;)

Then if I accept anal sex (both with women and men) if I come during the act I can cum in their ass.

I started with a hetero pg and now I'm 100% bi but she hasn't declared himself bisexual (I don't know if I have to do something or she can't declare himself bisexual).

I would like to know if in future updates it would be possible to choose the character's photos and date of birth during the initial creation, if it would be possible to decide the creation of the family type mother and father, how many brothers/sisters you could have, maybe even twins.
I have always created characters who have not attended college (I don't know if it's random or preset) you could go to class and have specializations to have a bonus in the statistics (a bit like how books work).

I just noticed that if you ask your girlfriend to talk about her boyfriend she tells me You wanted to talk to your girlfriend about her partner but she doesn't have one or you don't know them.
Sorry yeah, your translator is not great :)

The ??? in the bouncer message is weird. That should no happen and no idea how it is happening. Issues like that are much easier for me to track down if you either post a screen shot or enter the text exactly how it appears. As it is, what you posted is not in any game text so I can't match it to the event that may not be working.

I'll look at the cum in ass issue.

Note that MC does not declare as bi. That's probably an oversight. The only thing that prevents is that people that you are now attracted to won't proposition you.

I've explained the rationale for not letting you pick the images for your relatives before and also have posted how to cheat to change them if you don't like them. Search the thread for "cheat set_image"

I think I've found a bug not mentioned before: I have taken control of the cult and was allowed to schedule an event at the nude beach, even though this hadn't been opened in the game.
Again, that's another one I have no idea how it could happen. Are you sure it's not open? The condition is the same.

There an issue that sometimes, there's the dialog box that shows up but there's no text and two choices. If i select the first option, i go the alleyway and have paid for a sex worker. However, the girl is not a sex worker it is a bartender.
Also been reported. Sorry about that. That's an event that's not meant for you which is why it has no text.
 

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I have a couple of questions regarding the way likes and attractions work:

a) If you have a specific dislike do you like the opposite? For example, is disliking monogamy the same as liking polygamy, is disliking being on your own the same as liking marriage?

b) How does medium weight, height, hair and eyes work? Is it attractive to people that like both, neither or just a neutral option (no positive or negative at all)?
 
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Again, that's another one I have no idea how it could happen. Are you sure it's not open? The condition is the same.
Thanks for the reply.

I have carried on with the same game and have since been asked to sign the petition to open the nude beach. I haven't made any tweaks to any of the code or changed any parameters on my character on this save, so I haven't messed anything up.
 

Ayame

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I've explained the rationale for not letting you pick the images for your relatives before and also have posted how to cheat to change them if you don't like them. Search the thread for "cheat set_image"
It's not that I don't like the pictures but the birth dates in my case could have been twins or my father has been busy with more women :)
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Another bug/idiosyncrasy I encountered: a girl told me she was pregnant from me. Next day she asked me to pay to increase her fertility. I think when she is already pregnant, that shouldn't be necessary for at least a couple of months.

Oh, and while I am at it: when becoming a father, the likes for the mother's post come flooding in before the notification that the mother posted it. Maybe a small switcheroo would be nice here.
In my case, it was:
1. I'm using birth control
2. I'm pregnant, you're the father
3. I need money for fertility treatment.
Everything in the space of a couple of days.

Funny thing is: I don't even remember coming inside her. Is she trying to rip me off? :)
 

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Is there a way to efficiently save scum for your sibling to set you up with a potential employee?
I'm over a year into this world yet and I don't have a single arab woman encountered yet, so I'd really like to encounter (and recruit) one with ++lewd and --greed.
 

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There is a bug in the anal sex dialogue, whereby, if you are having anal sex (giving) and your partner requests you change to having sex, but you refuse and say you wish to continue as you were, the next dialogue has you having anal sex (receiving).

I'm pretty sure its always been there, as I've noticed it before but forgot to mention it.
 

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In my case, it was:
1. I'm using birth control
2. I'm pregnant, you're the father
3. I need money for fertility treatment.
Everything in the space of a couple of days.

Funny thing is: I don't even remember coming inside her. Is she trying to rip me off? :)
Well, the first one could always be lying.

But there seems to be something going completely wrong about the fertility treatment question: I just had an employee (not a girlfriend, didn't have sex with her) ask for it, which is not only out of line, but probably are things Fluke checks. So my guess is that there is some way to bypass the checks (a call from an unexpected place maybe?).
 

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just noticed one thing later in game. zear have 356 days, yet there are situations in which have 2-3 characters birtday at same time.
and since in my game there are around just 100 chars (mayby less, didnt counted) it doesnt sound right. look for some ways to improve it.
 

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just noticed one thing later in game. zear have 356 days, yet there are situations in which have 2-3 characters birtday at same time.
and since in my game there are around just 100 chars (mayby less, didnt counted) it doesnt sound right. look for some ways to improve it.
Statistically, there's well over a 99.9% chance for 2 people out of 100 to share a birthday and about 65% for 3 people to do so.
 

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For hiring, make sure they like you and your club. If your club is in debt or has a high maintenance amount, they won't like it too much. The unemployed are unemployed often for a reason: they don't like to work! So change their opinion so that they like to work. And again, make sure they like you!
A Problem I have is my club is successful, but there are no unemployed, except my sister, who hasn't become active yet. I have near max debt because I have kept expanding, to keep ahead. All the other clubs have debt too, though not as much.

I can't hire anyone. Had 4 jobs advertised, for 5 or 6 cycles and had one applicant, who turned me down because she didn't like my club. No new people have shown up in ages. Next bar expansion due soon and be even more jobs to be filled with no population increase. Game seems to punish you for being successful.

No cheats, save edits etc, just option changes to 150k max debt and 45k starting money, 250 baby maintenance. Also my club just went to 185k in debt and no foreclosure notice. I will probably just turtle till debt goes I think.
 

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I didn't find a detailed description of how fame is calculated anywhere else. So if you are interested, here's what I gathered from running ILSpy on the game:
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Statistically, there's well over a 99.9% chance for 2 people out of 100 to share a birthday and about 65% for 3 people to do so.
To add to that, there is a well known "paradox" (it isn't one, but often called that) that already at 23 people with random birthdays the odds of two sharing a birthday are over 50%.

A Problem I have is my club is successful, but there are no unemployed, except my sister, who hasn't become active yet. I have near max debt because I have kept expanding, to keep ahead. All the other clubs have debt too, though not as much.

I can't hire anyone. Had 4 jobs advertised, for 5 or 6 cycles and had one applicant, who turned me down because she didn't like my club. No new people have shown up in ages. Next bar expansion due soon and be even more jobs to be filled with no population increase. Game seems to punish you for being successful.

No cheats, save edits etc, just option changes to 150k max debt and 45k starting money, 250 baby maintenance. Also my club just went to 185k in debt and no foreclosure notice. I will probably just turtle till debt goes I think.
First of course you shouldn't expand and hire as soon as you can, but wait for the club to settle in and some favorable laws to be passed. But that being said, on my first run the game created tons of people for all the positions I got so they should be there. They probably don't want to work for you though because you are deeply in debt and employees do not like that.
 

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Version 1.10 is released. Links on the top of the thread. Saves from 1.07 and later can be loaded into this version. If you are using an older version, please upgrade your game to 1.07 first.

Also published an update to the Amber image pack, now with pregnant images for all women under 50. Also refreshed some images to fix some issues and completely replaced around 10% of them cause they were just too low quality.

One other note, I'm going to be busy for the next few weeks so will likely not be checking here as often as I normally do. The next update will probably take longer than the usual 3 weeks.

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I have a couple of questions regarding the way likes and attractions work:

a) If you have a specific dislike do you like the opposite? For example, is disliking monogamy the same as liking polygamy, is disliking being on your own the same as liking marriage?

b) How does medium weight, height, hair and eyes work? Is it attractive to people that like both, neither or just a neutral option (no positive or negative at all)?
a. Yes
b. The effect is actually based on the difference of the numeric value of the attribute and the numeric value of what the other person's opinion is. Each bucket (like tall/medium/short) has ranges, typically 0-30, 30-70, 70-100, and the values are used to match the ideal value for liking or disliking the attribute. So if you have medium stature and the internal value is 50, and the other person likes tall people which maps to a 80 (this is the ref_key field in the likes.dat file) the difference is 30. If the value is close enough it gets positive points towards attraction, if it's in a middle range is gets no points (i.e. neutral) and if it's high enough it gets negative points. So if you have medium something your best bet is to get the other person to not have an opinion on tall/short people.

It's not that I don't like the pictures but the birth dates in my case could have been twins or my father has been busy with more women :)
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Yeah, that can happen. If your first sister ends up being that young, there's no much room for the other sister who is just starting college to fit in. In general there's logic to prevent twins but it this case is either that or being too young. So come up with your own "backstory" to explain it!

I should probably force the first sister to be older than that.

In my case, it was:
1. I'm using birth control
2. I'm pregnant, you're the father
3. I need money for fertility treatment.
Everything in the space of a couple of days.

Funny thing is: I don't even remember coming inside her. Is she trying to rip me off? :)
First of all pregnancies can happen without cumming directly inside her. (Part of that is because those are too infrequent and without it there would be almost no pregnancies, second pulling out is not a good strategy in preventing pregnancies)

Anyway, hopefully I'll figure what's causing it as it's not clear what the issue is.

Is there a way to efficiently save scum for your sibling to set you up with a potential employee?
I'm over a year into this world yet and I don't have a single arab woman encountered yet, so I'd really like to encounter (and recruit) one with ++lewd and --greed.
There are few Arab women images thus the odds of spawning them is low. But no, there's no good way to save scum that as those offers come in roughly every 15 days. So you could see when you get an offer, then wait 15 days and save then. Then wait for the next one. Which should happen within the next day or 2. During the first few months she will send you a candidate each time, but as time passes, the chances that she just says hello or tells you a gossip about the other sister will increase.

There is a bug in the anal sex dialogue, whereby, if you are having anal sex (giving) and your partner requests you change to having sex, but you refuse and say you wish to continue as you were, the next dialogue has you having anal sex (receiving).

I'm pretty sure its always been there, as I've noticed it before but forgot to mention it.
Yeah, it's been reported multiple times. I haven't been able to track it down unfortunately.

But there seems to be something going completely wrong about the fertility treatment question: I just had an employee (not a girlfriend, didn't have sex with her) ask for it, which is not only out of line, but probably are things Fluke checks. So my guess is that there is some way to bypass the checks (a call from an unexpected place maybe?).
Actually that's on purpose. Employees will ask their boss for money in some cases, like when they have no husband/boyfriend (which yeah it's probably weird).

just noticed one thing later in game. zear have 356 days, yet there are situations in which have 2-3 characters birtday at same time.
and since in my game there are around just 100 chars (mayby less, didnt counted) it doesnt sound right. look for some ways to improve it.
Years actually have 360 days (all months have 30 days cause I'm lazy and didn't want to waste time coding proper dates).

But the birthdays are mostly random. Two characters getting the same birthday is just dumb luck. The one thing that does happen is that characters created at the same time tend to get their birthdays in a cluster. For example, all the initial club owners have their birthday usually within 10 days of another. Same for the original commissioners.

A Problem I have is my club is successful, but there are no unemployed, except my sister, who hasn't become active yet. I have near max debt because I have kept expanding, to keep ahead. All the other clubs have debt too, though not as much.

I can't hire anyone. Had 4 jobs advertised, for 5 or 6 cycles and had one applicant, who turned me down because she didn't like my club. No new people have shown up in ages. Next bar expansion due soon and be even more jobs to be filled with no population increase. Game seems to punish you for being successful.

No cheats, save edits etc, just option changes to 150k max debt and 45k starting money, 250 baby maintenance. Also my club just went to 185k in debt and no foreclosure notice. I will probably just turtle till debt goes I think.
The game creates a number of characters each month based on the number of open jobs across all clubs. But your issue is that with so much debt, people don't trust you and they will likely not want to work for you. Honestly you are early enough that you should start a new game and don't expand so fast. Keep your debt under 25k as much as possible. Debt also affects your fame and makes it hard to make enough money to bounce back. Good luck!

I didn't find a detailed description of how fame is calculated anywhere else. So if you are interested, here's what I gathered from running ILSpy on the game:
Wow. I have no idea what ILSpy is but that's incredible. At least from memory it all seems 100% accurate.
 

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i've sort of been putting off trying this game because of the reviews saying its very slow. Has that improved? Is it worth a try yet?
 
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