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4. Add mechanics to remove characters - for example: hiring hit-men to remove characters from the game or make them leave town. Some characters have really bad images and it would be nice to remove them from the game.
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there are like 500+ diffrent AI generated charathers if you dont like some i recommend deleting. no point having images that disgust and or just creep you out
 

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what shifts can the player character cover? I have seen some stuff like cooks/waiters/bartenders, but if the singer is out and you only have one are you just boned? Or if you didnt want to hire a singer at first and do it yourself to help early cashflow?
Those 3 plus hosts. Singers (and all entertainers) have to be women so that adds more complexity to it. They also have additional interactions that just becomes too messy. And it's just not realistic (yeah that's where I'm drawing the realism line!)

Not sure if this is a bug or something else odd, but I just got a text from someone (the town nurse) that I have had sex with already, sending me a selfie. The only options to respond are to ignore it or give a "not interested", no positive options. Is this a bug or were there added hidden requirements to give a positive reply now? View attachment 5024425

Edit: also the "don't try to stick things in the MC's ass" thing from the ingame menu appears to be breaking every so often. In particular it seems to be happening right after she has an orgasm from receiving anal, then it pops straight to her pulling a dildo out of nowhere without any prompt/option on the player's end before going to allowing the player to make a "what comes next" choice. I'll try putting the manual text version of the "safety" feature into user_config and see if that prevents it or if it has the same issue later.
The positive option is not available when you are not attracted to the person who send you the selfie. What's your gender/sex orientation? Or you are too much of a prude and are offended by a revealing selfie. What's your lewdness?

I have not seen that issue with the anal sex blocker. Next time you see it look at the console and there should be a line indicating how much they want to do it and see what that says. It should have a -100 value.


what happens if we cheat and use the code for late-game laws (i.e. enable prostitution) without most of the early ones? Does that have any potential to break or corrupt the game save?
Depends. With that one is fine as that prostitution implies all the other previous intermediate laws (signing, dancing, stripping, etc.). Some others don't so you need to understand how the various laws related to know which ones you need to add.

Question: I don't see an option to use a condom for male MC. I'm missing something or in SCW world only birth control for females existing / legal :D?

Bug: As I seen in your code NPC with "have an offspring" goal should get a massive hit to opinion if MC not cumming inside them. Bug itself that this penalty is still applied if they're not having a sex, just doing some foreplay.

Suggestion: on advancing to next phase NPC on location could randomly invite MC on a date. Add before it a conditional that MC already have NOT scheduled a date with them, because it's somewhat stupid (or add an option to refuse without opinion penalty in that case).

Suggestion: do not advance time on using Photos & Social. Basically it make a whole game mechanic not worthy to use (considering how precious our actions) plus it doesn't make a lot of sense as checking social media isn't taking a lot of time and could be done during a walk.
That's because you don't have any condoms. You can get them from the nurse at the clinic or you can install a dispenser in the club restroom (or go to another club that has one installed).

Not sure I understand the bug regarding the offspring goal.

Certain things regarding the scheduled stuff is not possible to do the way the code was written. Trying to have all the characters remember which dates they have scheduled is a pain to do so not happening.

Looking at your photos do not advance time. Looking at social media does because you can actually interact with them and do stuff. So that possibility, even though it doesn't happen often, causes to advance time.

I think I've been playing for more than 30 hours (over several days). I like the game but I want to provide some feedback:

1. Make going to your favorite characters location easier - by showing mini icons on where they are on the map. Many times I have to send a text to ask where they are in the club, and then go there. Same goes for the world map. Or just have another tag called "show in map" (similar to the 'favorite' function). You can limit the numbers of characters to show on map if there are UI space limitations.

2. Passing laws are just too slow and too tedious to get them passed. I had to use cheats. I know you can use the cult to help speed it up, but getting to the point where the cult can help takes too long. Please look into speeding it up.

3. Add mechanics (like events) where your MC traits can improve - this game is a power fantasy after all.

4. Add mechanics to remove characters - for example: hiring hit-men to remove characters from the game or make them leave town. Some characters have really bad images and it would be nice to remove them from the game.
1. Should have an FAQ for this! It's been asked a lot and the answer is the same. Characters are not always moved to the location until you move. This is to improve performance.

2. I think now the speed is fine and it matches the speed by which rooms are built. Sometimes they pass laws faster than you can build rooms and sometimes is the other way around. You have a bunch of ways, not just the cult, to get them to agree to pass laws. And if passing laws is too hard, there's a game option to make it easier.

3. Why? I really want to know what traits do you feel you need to improve? Because honestly they are not that significant (other than picking a high sociability everything else is really not that important.

4. That already exists. You need to become friends with the mobster and then you can pay him to disappear people.

Some observations for TotalFluke:

1. Could you please add an option to choose the day for a romantic date?

2. I still see the odd message about customers not being happy with my food service... while the kitchen is still under construction...

3. In the beta, NPC's remained unemployed for months, with this version we're back to "if you don't meet them as soon as they're spawned, you may never have the chance to hire them".

4. I vaguely remember you wanted to do something for janitors, who work 7 days a week.

5. I think I found a pattern with NPC's who love "cum on me" and get upset when you "cum on them": if you try and put on a condom and they ask you not to, there's a 90% chance that they'll get upset when you come outside. So maybe they just want to get pregnant? If that's the case, could they be more explicit?
1. It's on the list to do, but not a high priority. It's very complicated.
2. Yeah, I've seen that. Need to look into it.
3. Yeah, that was a bug. People that want to work will now look for jobs after a few weeks of being unemployed. If they take a non-club job you can hire them within 30 days of them starting, not 90 days so the never have a chance is really just 30 days.
4. Yeah, still on the list.
5. Yes, they want to get pregnant. Often they tell ahead of time. Other times they don't.

So this situation appears when your girlfriend broke with you. Next step MC is in the apartment ( I didn't buy it ), not in the main office and the bug appears.
Interesting. I'll have to look into that. No idea what could be happening, but it's an interesting situation that I don't think I have considered.
 

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is there an extended changelog for this version somewhere?
After unpacking the game, look for a folder named "docs" and there you will find the changelog for the current version and also the previous changelogs for earlier SCW 2 beta versions.
 
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any chance of a Linux version. It does not seem to work with wine, PlayOnLinux, or Lutris.
it works well with bottles (put the game inside the c drive of bottles for it to work). tested on ubuntu, linux mint.
make sure that bottles is configured properly (with newest proton enabled!)
 
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The positive option is not available when you are not attracted to the person who send you the selfie. What's your gender/sex orientation? Or you are too much of a prude and are offended by a revealing selfie. What's your lewdness?
Male/Straight, lewdness is in the 65+ range, so that shouldn't be an issue. This was less than a month into the game, nobody else had sent me any selfies so I can't verify if it's just with her or with everyone.

There may be something wrong with how attraction is being calculated, though, because I also noticed two separate male commissioners who were listed as straight having a +4 or higher attraction rating towards me as a male character, and one even attempted to flirt with me (I was able to tell him to fuck off at least). I dumped their stats in the console and neither had any positive opinion of same-sex relations or other opinions that should matter toward that.

As far as the anal sex blocker, I'll keep an eye out if it happens again and report back what the console says. I've only seen it happen twice over about 10 hours of play, so it at least is working correctly most of the time.
 
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Thanks for the update. A few comments.

1. As noted by others, NPCs now seem keener on sex - both initiating it and escalating activities. On a possibly related note I seem to be getting more 'love at first sight/has crush on' intros.

2. It seems more difficult to change someone's opinion about something now. Combined with 1. it makes this more of a random casual sex game and less playable as a management game.

3. You can ask someone to come with you to the nudist beach even when none has been designated - though I guess it could be an 'unofficial' nudist beach. As the NPCs will agree to come with you before you say where you're going, their lewdness and approval of revealing clothes and nudity has no effect on whether you can get them to the nude beach. So far I've been unable to trigger the petition signing for the nude beach, though given the amount of time I've spent on 2.0 it may just be bad RNG luck.

4. Important job roles are often left vacant when someone apparently takes a day off. This is particularly frustrating when there is no civil servant at City Hall when you're trying to get laws passed.

5. Maintenance needs at the club increase more quickly than before, even when the club is closed (rats?). So you have to spend a lot more of your important time in the early game on maintenance, though the situation improves a fair bit when you can finally hire janitors.

Questions.

1. The talk option to change to more revealing clothes seems to be gone. Not much loss really but as it didn't appear in the changelog I was wondering if it's intentional or a bug.

2. There's a new 'talk about self' option but it only appears with a few NPCs and I'm unable to make sense of what the eligibility trigger is.

3. I've questioned this before and Totalfluke has sort of answered it, but the mechanic for sending dick pics still doesn't make much sense to me. The opinion boost seems the same for 'OMG that is so hot!' and no response at all, while even the 'WTF!' response gives an opinion boost comparable to a positive 'idle chat'. So, for example, you can send a naked selfie to a lesbian who dislikes both you and your physical attributes, get a 'WTF!' response, and her opinion of you still goes up 2 points.
 
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That's freaky. There are no transmittable diseases, so no reason for health to spread. Unless they are all pregnant at the same time, as pregnancies lower health and energy. But usually energy more than health so you get the too tired to work instead. The only other thing I can think of is that there's someone in your club that's getting into fights with everyone else, but even in that case, that person would also get hurt and then not be able to hurt anyone else while they recover their injuries. (Health of 21 is bad, health is 0-100, with 50 being average and 30 being the minimum required to be able to work).

Very curious as to what's going on. Any other details that you can share?
I'm happy to provide any details you'd like, but I don't know what would be most useful to you to try and debug.

One employee was pregnant, but not all of them unless pregnancy is contagious. I don't see any messages about fights, but since it's everyone all at the same time, repeatedly, maybe I have a really *really* pissed-off customer waiting for my girls in the alley with a baseball bat?

Someone upthread mentioned cheating too much - I changed the "alter sexual orientation" line in the user_config file, but it was within the max range commented in the main config file - 2x default, I think? I also used the console command to cheat my energy to max a couple times - maybe something got super borked there somehow? Those are the only "cheats" I remember using.
 

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Not sure I understand the bug regarding the offspring goal.
If female NPC with offspring goal having a sex with PC and he cum on her face/body/etc - her opinion receive a big hit even if she isn't agree to have actual vaginal sex with PC.

You also don't get any kind of explanation what's going on.
 
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I have not seen that issue with the anal sex blocker. Next time you see it look at the console and there should be a line indicating how much they want to do it and see what that says. It should have a -100 value.
Followup on this, just happened a third time on a new save. buttstuffbug.jpg
I just verified that it's set to false in the ingame settings, and I have also set it to false in user_config with:
allow_offer_anal_to_mc bool false
 

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Great game, this playthrough mc immediately got sick, how do you cure it? I've tried going to the clinic and getting treated and i have tried to cheat by setting ilness to 0 and recovery/health/base health/fitness to 100 but in no time it deteriotes back down.

edit: also not sure if this has been mentioned before but with version 2 people seem to be concentrating a lot more in downtown at night/late where they used to be more spread out to the park and the beach as well
 
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1. The talk option to change to more revealing clothes seems to be gone. Not much loss really but as it didn't appear in the changelog I was wondering if it's intentional or a bug.

2. There's a new 'talk about self' option but it only appears with a few NPCs and I'm unable to make sense of what the eligibility trigger is.
1. In my opinion you can ask that to people you're friends with.
2. Same, you need to be friends with them first then it's there.
 

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So this situation appears when your girlfriend broke with you. Next step MC is in the apartment ( I didn't buy it ), not in the main office and the bug appears.
Yeah, found the bug that caused this. When you broke up, code that was meant for NPCs ran which essentially moved each person to their default home. And the default home for NPCs is different than for the MC. I have a fix for the next release but it won't fix your save. For that you will need to edit your save file. To do so, first load the game and go to your office (that will make it easier to explain how to fix it). Once you do that, save the game under a new slot so that if something goes wrong you can go back to the original one. Make a note of what slot it is. Then exit the game.

Go to the runtime/save_files folder and open the file save-X.txt (where X is one less than the slot you used to save the game, so if it was saved on slot 5, then it will be save-4.txt). Look for the line that begins with MainChar. The 17th field (fields are separated with |) is the location field. To make it easier, the 15th field will be "mc". The 17th field will look like:

club;35;35;club;0;-1

The 5th field is your home location. In your case I'm going to guess is set to 0 or 3 or -3. That's what's messed up. Change it to be -1, so it should look like:

club;35;35;club;-1;-1

You only need to change the 5th field, leave the rest as is.
 
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It seems the opening console key is not configurable, for me it is only works with english key loadout and the default (') key.
(I tried every possible solution with editing the different config files, so maybe it is somewhere else hardcoded too?)
 

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Yeah, found the bug that caused this. When you broke up, code that was meant for NPCs ran which essentially moved each person to their default home. And the default home for NPCs is different than for the MC. I have a fix for the next release but it won't fix your save. For that you will need to edit your save file. To do so, first load the game and go to your office (that will make it easier to explain how to fix it). Once you do that, save the game under a new slot so that if something goes wrong you can go back to the original one. Make a note of what slot it is. Then exit the game.

Go to the runtime/save_files folder and open the file save-X.txt (where X is one less than the slot you used to save the game, so if it was saved on slot 5, then it will be save-4.txt). Look for the line that begins with MainChar. The 17th field (fields are separated with |) is the location field. To make it easier, the 15th field will be "mc". The 17th field will look like:

club;35;35;club;0;-1

The 5th field is your home location. In your case I'm going to guess is set to 0 or 3 or -3. That's what's messed up. Change it to be -1, so it should look like:

club;35;35;club;-1;-1

You only need to change the 5th field, leave the rest as is.
Thank you, I will try it later.
 

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Male/Straight, lewdness is in the 65+ range, so that shouldn't be an issue. This was less than a month into the game, nobody else had sent me any selfies so I can't verify if it's just with her or with everyone.

There may be something wrong with how attraction is being calculated, though, because I also noticed two separate male commissioners who were listed as straight having a +4 or higher attraction rating towards me as a male character, and one even attempted to flirt with me (I was able to tell him to fuck off at least). I dumped their stats in the console and neither had any positive opinion of same-sex relations or other opinions that should matter toward that.

As far as the anal sex blocker, I'll keep an eye out if it happens again and report back what the console says. I've only seen it happen twice over about 10 hours of play, so it at least is working correctly most of the time.
Check their m_attr field. That's what controls whether they are really attracted to you. They can be straight but secretly bi (or 50% bi).

I'm putting in a fix to allow the MC to pick both the hot and the not interested options regardless of the MC's sex orientation. That's usually how it works in those situations anyway. But there may be something messed up. Because that's shouldn't be happening.

Thanks for the update. A few comments.

1. As noted by others, NPCs now seem keener on sex - both initiating it and escalating activities. On a possibly related note I seem to be getting more 'love at first sight/has crush on' intros.

2. It seems more difficult to change someone's opinion about something now. Combined with 1. it makes this more of a random casual sex game and less playable as a management game.

3. You can ask someone to come with you to the nudist beach even when none has been designated - though I guess it could be an 'unofficial' nudist beach. As the NPCs will agree to come with you before you say where you're going, their lewdness and approval of revealing clothes and nudity has no effect on whether you can get them to the nude beach. So far I've been unable to trigger the petition signing for the nude beach, though given the amount of time I've spent on 2.0 it may just be bad RNG luck.

4. Important job roles are often left vacant when someone apparently takes a day off. This is particularly frustrating when there is no civil servant at City Hall when you're trying to get laws passed.

5. Maintenance needs at the club increase more quickly than before, even when the club is closed (rats?). So you have to spend a lot more of your important time in the early game on maintenance, though the situation improves a fair bit when you can finally hire janitors.

Questions.

1. The talk option to change to more revealing clothes seems to be gone. Not much loss really but as it didn't appear in the changelog I was wondering if it's intentional or a bug.

2. There's a new 'talk about self' option but it only appears with a few NPCs and I'm unable to make sense of what the eligibility trigger is.

3. I've questioned this before and Totalfluke has sort of answered it, but the mechanic for sending dick pics still doesn't make much sense to me. The opinion boost seems the same for 'OMG that is so hot!' and no response at all, while even the 'WTF!' response gives an opinion boost comparable to a positive 'idle chat'. So, for example, you can send a naked selfie to a lesbian who dislikes both you and your physical attributes, get a 'WTF!' response, and her opinion of you still goes up 2 points.
1. Yep.
2. It's more difficult in some cases, easier in others. Their personality plays a stronger part than before and the RNG less. When it's harder it means that you need to find out why they are reluctant and address that.
3. The follow me to the nude beach before it's been established is a bug. Their acceptance is not dependent on the location though. It's a bit tricky to do that. And the nude beach petition will start later now, (after 3 months have gone by).
4. The nurse and the city hall guy are those issues. They can't take days off unless they are too sick to work. I thought there was code to handle that but you are the second one to report that so will need to take a look.
5. Yeah, I increased the restrooms contribution to make hiring restroom attendants more relevant (they handle the restroom maintenance). The likelihood of random employees cleaning their rooms has gone up too. I still find that you can keep up with it by doing it once a day until June or so.

Q1: Still there. You have to have a good enough relationship with them to be able to ask that. (I.e. you can't walk over to someone you just met and ask them to get naked!)
Q2. Same. The eligibility for these is being a "close" relation, which includes a lot of things, like family, friends, employees, followers, etc. as well as those that have a high opinion of you.
Q3. That's a bug too that I found yesterday while addressing someone else's issue with receiving a selfie. Will be fixed. (That has been a bug since the first version!)



I'm happy to provide any details you'd like, but I don't know what would be most useful to you to try and debug.

One employee was pregnant, but not all of them unless pregnancy is contagious. I don't see any messages about fights, but since it's everyone all at the same time, repeatedly, maybe I have a really *really* pissed-off customer waiting for my girls in the alley with a baseball bat?

Someone upthread mentioned cheating too much - I changed the "alter sexual orientation" line in the user_config file, but it was within the max range commented in the main config file - 2x default, I think? I also used the console command to cheat my energy to max a couple times - maybe something got super borked there somehow? Those are the only "cheats" I remember using.
All of that it's fine. I'm mostly trying to get an idea of the size of the problem. How many employees total you have and how many call in sick the same day? And are they really sick? (Some will call sick in when they are not). Did they all get sick the same day, or do they start on different days? Are they getting healthier?

If female NPC with offspring goal having a sex with PC and he cum on her face/body/etc - her opinion receive a big hit even if she isn't agree to have actual vaginal sex with PC.

You also don't get any kind of explanation what's going on.
Ok, I will look into that and see if that's an issue.

Followup on this, just happened a third time on a new save. View attachment 5027810
I just verified that it's set to false in the ingame settings, and I have also set it to false in user_config with:
allow_offer_anal_to_mc bool false
Ok, that helps a lot. This appears to be happening after you had anal sex with her and then she decided to "keep" doing that but it reversed the giver/receiver. That might be a bug.

Great game, this playthrough mc immediately got sick, how do you cure it? I've tried going to the clinic and getting treated and i have tried to cheat by setting ilness to 0 and recovery/health/base health/fitness to 100 but in no time it deteriotes back down.

edit: also not sure if this has been mentioned before but with version 2 people seem to be concentrating a lot more in downtown at night/late where they used to be more spread out to the park and the beach as well
Make sure you sleep. That's the main way you recover health. Even if your energy is high, you should still sleep every night. Going to the clinic only removes illness and injuries but does not affect your health. So if those are 0, and your health is going down, is because of something else. Particularly bad habits, like eating junk food, smoking or doing drugs. Make sure you don't like those things.

Going to the beach or park at night/late is not safe! So people don't do it anymore. Which leaves downtown the only place to go until clubs are able to open during those hours.
 
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jsas66

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Ok, so what is your advice if I want to start over, what should I prioritize with first? I know maintaining the business, but again how do I recruit people? I try to bribe them with higher salary they still refusing which kinda ridiculous if I should say myself lol.
Something I learned from the previous version (and some really helpful posters is to check your finances. If you are too heavily in debt or are continuously losing money, people won't respond to ads or accept a job offer. That is just the way the program is set up.

So don't worry about getting too many employees to begin. Wages are going to be one of your biggest monthly expenses in the beginning.

The Manage Club>Finances tab is your friend.

If you are starting over, I recommend

-bumping your initial cash
-cutting down the cost of adding a room

You can do these in options.

And to me, if you are starting over, make sure your character has high endurance and strength. Mostly endurance. If not, you spend all of your time in the gym trying to have enough energy to get anything done.
 

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1. Should have an FAQ for this! It's been asked a lot and the answer is the same. Characters are not always moved to the location until you move. This is to improve performance.

2. I think now the speed is fine and it matches the speed by which rooms are built. Sometimes they pass laws faster than you can build rooms and sometimes is the other way around. You have a bunch of ways, not just the cult, to get them to agree to pass laws. And if passing laws is too hard, there's a game option to make it easier.

3. Why? I really want to know what traits do you feel you need to improve? Because honestly they are not that significant (other than picking a high sociability everything else is really not that important.

4. That already exists. You need to become friends with the mobster and then you can pay him to disappear people.
Thank you for your replies.
For 1# , I understand the performance issue - which indirectly cause adding a feature to show mini icons of where the character are. I would just like to suggest if you can consider this in the future to add the feature to make an exception for a small number of tagged characters (say 10) and show them in the world map/club map. Just a thought :) but feel free to ignore it.

For 4#, thanks for the info, I didn't know that we can be friends with the mobster. I beat him up and I don't seem to be able to make friends with him anymore. Is this option lost (asking mob to disappear people) if the mob boss is already around -20 opinion? Just wanted to know if I have to start a new game to get this. Also, I assume to be friends, you have to pay protection fees and give in to their demands?
 
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