Subverse - promising h-game on kickstarter

[xfirstninx]

Game has now reached passed their goal and made 500k.

If people still have any doubts that this might be a flop, I'm pretty sure that kind of money is enough for them to really focus on it! FOW are great animators/modelers. And hopefully with the money they'll hire a good programmer for the gameplay!

Actually they have pass 500K US Dolars, but their top goal is 400K Pounds, which they reach 384K so far. Until Friday they will reach the maximum for sure. And they said they will add more goals Soon™. If I remember correctly they already said that surpassing one of the original goals that they will hire more programmers.
I really want to know about those new goals. XD

 

[Gtg Gtg]

Eyy... Can somebody buy for the community the Studio 69 DLC? As it is ONLY exclusive to those who have backed the campaign during the time... PLEASE?

 

[xfirstninx]

Eyy... Can somebody buy for the community the Studio 69 DLC? As it is ONLY exclusive to those who have backed the campaign during the time... PLEASE?

Hahaha'
It's not that easy, but I think someone will share this. Anyway, I would be more concerned in gather people to back the project and unlock Fow-Chan. XD

 

[Gtg Gtg]

Agreed... Really want that Fow-Chan Unlock

 

[canyouread]

oh snap.... ive always wanted handholding in a h game!
it's like FOW knows they're bad but also people still want their shit lmao

 

[MusicVideoGuy]

They stated already that they plan to continue making movies. Also that the animated content for the game will give them a chance to practice animating with the new engine. One of their VAs Mr. Kristoff did an interview about Subverse and said back when they were still working with SFM, around half the time spent animating was taken up by SFM itself breaking things and having to correct them. On account of it being such an outdated engine. Hopefully after Subverse it'll help streamline their movie making process--I'm very interested in seeing them complete their backlog from before Patreon fucked them.

 

[csaja]

well the game looks better then the shit they show these days with millions of dollar games

 

[Chop2008]

I hope this doesn't get cancelled watch the video and you'll understand. Please don't send hate his way he's the only real news on the net. If you do send him comments then explain why he should just leave it be without hate. I get get it he's concerned about his brand.

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[csaja]

happens all the time still annoying

 

[csaja]

waste of his time though there are more subverse things that use the name subverse <_< i doubt you can sue over that lel

 

[Drew Anderson]

waste of his time though there are more subverse things that use the name subverse <_< i doubt you can sue over that lel

He has the U.S. Trademark, so he can sue. I watched the video. All he wants is for them to change the U.S. name, but they told him to send lawyers. I doubt it cancels anything, since it's only U.S. Trademark, not international.

 

[FAP369ZONE]

Will this game be here when its out ?

 

[canyouread]

call me scum or something, but i find the situation hilarious, especially since his 4 year brand was immediately displaced by a fow game as soon as its announced. oh you want to keep your hard-earned brand name? nope here's a porn game lmao.
apparently his content is mainly interviews on subcultures that the general audience wouldn't know about - do an interview on the underground porn game industry instead - interview studiofow plssssssssss i'd die for that interview

 

[Tataro]

So how hardcore will the game go?

 

[AsariLover]

So how hardcore will the game go?

i don't know how, but monsters will destroy your "waifus", if you want to of course
sad, i don't care about this game anymore after they reach they "monster" goal

 

[csaja]

ah well at least we can thank him that he give more coverage to it so more people see it :3

 

[awkwardcultism]

The game certainly has the possibility of being good, but I would never give money to these guys. I don't necessarily think they're bad game develepors, it's just that anyone who uses the word "waifu" in plural loses all human rights in my eyes. I don't particularly care whether they're attempting to force themselves to be trendy, are operating behind several layers of irony for the sake of a "joke", are vastly uninformed and just spew words out without knowing what they mean, or are just a terrible human being, I hate them.
It was only when Fenoxo started talking like that I truly gave up all hope for them.

Grid based strategy games are also hot ass. All of them have the worst pacing. There has never been a good one. Fight me.
Advance Wars- Just meh
Fire Emblem- Fine story, gameplay is nothing but RNG bullshit, later games are cucky as fuck
Rance 3/4- Only vaguely tolerable
FF Tactics Advance/A2- Barring Desert Bus, the most excruciatingly slow game in existence, most mobile games are faster paced
Disgaea- A cut above the usual tripe but you have to grind to progress and that is excruciating
La Pucelle- Hahaha no
Moekuri 2-Literally the only thing going for this game is that the girls are cute
SRW- The only reason to play this game is to watch the cutscenes and the only way to actually play the game is to skip them
Namco X Capcom/Project X Zone- SRW except with a slightly higher cute girl coefficient, better writing, and you can't skip the cutscenes
Yggra Union- no
Valkyria Chronicle- FUCK no
Anything made by Eushully- is made by Eushully

Maybe they'll crack the code, but I say they'd be way better off ripping off a game that's actually fun like Darkest Dungeon.
That's just my very biased take on it.

 

[desmosome]

The game certainly has the possibility of being good, but I would never give money to these guys. I don't necessarily think they're bad game develepors, it's just that anyone who uses the word "waifu" in plural loses all human rights in my eyes. I don't particularly care whether they're attempting to force themselves to be trendy, are operating behind several layers of irony for the sake of a "joke", are vastly uninformed and just spew words out without knowing what they mean, or are just a terrible human being, I hate them.
It was only when Fenoxo started talking like that I truly gave up all hope for them.

Grid based strategy games are also hot ass. All of them have the worst pacing. There has never been a good one. Fight me.
Advance Wars- Just meh
Fire Emblem- Fine story, gameplay is nothing but RNG bullshit, later games are cucky as fuck
Rance 3/4- Only vaguely tolerable
FF Tactics Advance/A2- Barring Desert Bus, the most excruciatingly slow game in existence, most mobile games are faster paced
Disgaea- A cut above the usual tripe but you have to grind to progress and that is excruciating
La Pucelle- Hahaha no
Moekuri 2-Literally the only thing going for this game is that the girls are cute
SRW- The only reason to play this game is to watch the cutscenes and the only way to actually play the game is to skip them
Namco X Capcom/Project X Zone- SRW except with a slightly higher cute girl coefficient, better writing, and you can't skip the cutscenes
Yggra Union- no
Valkyria Chronicle- FUCK no
Anything made by Eushully- is made by Eushully

Maybe they'll crack the code, but I say they'd be way better off ripping off a game that's actually fun like Darkest Dungeon.
That's just my very biased take on it.

you fail to mention the best games in the genre though?

FFT and Tactics Ogre. There is also the front mission series. Grid based tactics games have the potential to offer the best gameplay out of all the genres. As you say, story and pacing could suffer, but thats not an inherent problem with the genre. You can't honestly say that FFT and Tactics Ogre plot is bad.

Edit: if we go to western side of development, X-COM? Jagged Alliance 2? Shadowrun? Comon man... So many gems

 

[awkwardcultism]

@desmosome
I only mentioned the ones I've played. I gave up on the FFT series after playing both Advance games extensively. I threw in the towel with Tactics Ogre too early to give a more solid critique than "I didn't like it." I hear good things about the original X-COM but nothing about it interests me.
Yes, some tactics games have good plots. They have good plots in spite of being tactics games. You get maybe one fun story moment per hour at absolute best. Compare that to another game that is bad but has a fun story, like FFXIII. You get a great cutscene in that game like every ten minutes. The genre holds back the story way less.

Let me put it this way. When I play a video game for an hour, I expect to have 60 minutes worth of fun. While I am admittedly a dickhole, I'm not a total dickhole and if the game can only put out 50 or 45 minutes of fun per hour I won't have a conniption. How many minutes do you get from a tactics game? 10? 5?
I mean seriously, how many times per level do you actually make an impactful, non-obvious decision? In my experience it's usually none. Once you understand the basic mechanics it's just reapplying those same mechanics over and over in slightly different situations without any thought on the part of the player.
The only time I can ever remember actually making a fun strategic decision in a tactics game is when I figured out in FE8 I could stop Seto from stealing XP while still making use of his amazing defenses (which the stages are balanced around) by removing all of his weapons. The ONLY fun tactic I can remember coming up with in a tactics game was made trying to work around two major design flaws! That's when you know you're playing a bad game.

 

[Ultralazuli]

Putting aside that someone actually complimented anything to do with FF13, I don't expect anything from this game.

It's hyperinflated, cartoony, and laden with cringey non-comedy, from the teaser trailer. It reminds me of some of the more popular mobile games, and that's about what I expect it to equate to. So if you're okay with CG movies of tits after waiting a day for your mobile game energy to come back because you refuse to buy a loot crate that MIGHT have energy in it, for real money, then you should be fine.