Subverse - promising h-game on kickstarter

[NTRprise]

So I have this game in my library, does anyone know at what time it'll be downloadable ?

 

[Agrik]

If they are trying to sell game at full price, its ok to expect all aspects of the game to be of high quality.

How many quality games have you seen in recent years?

 

[Readerf2b]

So I have this game in my library, does anyone know at what time it'll be downloadable ?

In 24 hours.

How many quality games have you seen in recent years?

Not much.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Thanks for answering my question. I wait to they make their own platform. Unless they put it in nutaku or manga gamer. Anyone except steam.

It's their own platform. Will speak about it soon

If I buy the game tomorrow on steam, won't I have to pay for any DLC in the future? sorry my english jeje

Buying the game now will get you access to the game, content added between here the 1.0 (complete) version of the game has no extra charge. We do not know if there will be future DLC for the game.

Fow collective has experience in animation, everything else is new to them. Im not saying that game is going to be garbage, but most likely its not going to be a game you would play without porn part.

Yes it is new to them, which is why they hired professionals who've worked on other games before to work with them.

So I have this game in my library, does anyone know at what time it'll be downloadable ?

Look at the store page on Steam, you can see an approximate time for hours left.

 

[Emperor_Arcturus]

How many quality games have you seen in recent years?

Don't mean to sound rude, but what the hell are you talking about? Hades, Persona 5 Strikers, Personal 5 Royale, Fenyx Rising, the new Ori game, Risk of Rain 2, the Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Outer Worlds, A Plague Tale: Innocence, Metro Exodus, Disco Elysium, and I could actually go in, and that was just in the past 2 years. I really fucking hate this stupid bullshit "No good games have come out since 20XX". You're wrong, there's great fucking games out and still coming out, both indie and AAA, and they're not hard to find.

 

[Agrik]

there's great fucking games out and still coming out

Yes, there is no dispute about tastes, but there were also such as Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76, Assassins and other shit at full price, the name of which I have already forgotten.

 

[Emperor_Arcturus]

Yes, there is no dispute about tastes, but there were also such as Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76, Assassins and other shit at full price, the name of which I have already forgotten.

You're right, there's definitely bad stuff that's come out too, but that's always the case. But to say that there's not been quality games is just blatantly false, there's plenty of great games coming out still.

 

[Agrik]

But to say that there's not been quality games is just blatantly false

Believe it or not, if you don't compare with other games, then even The Witcher 3 is a bad game!

 

[Gwedelino]

Don't mean to sound rude, but what the hell are you talking about? Hades, Persona 5 Strikers, Personal 5 Royale, Fenyx Rising, the new Ori game, Risk of Rain 2, the Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Outer Worlds, A Plague Tale: Innocence, Metro Exodus, Disco Elysium, and I could actually go in, and that was just in the past 2 years. I really fucking hate this stupid bullshit "No good games have come out since 20XX". You're wrong, there's great fucking games out and still coming out, both indie and AAA, and they're not hard to find.

I understood that as how many quality "porn game".

I mean how many quality "porn game" have you seen in recent years ?

And by that i mean :

- We only talk about finished game.

- We talk about porn game with not only good smut content but also good gameplay or other inner qualities not related to porn.

 

[Emperor_Arcturus]

Believe it or not, if you don't compare with other games, then even The Witcher 3 is a bad game!

There are many people who would disagree with you. Your enjoyment and opinion of the game, any game, is subjective to yourself, but there are games that are good objectively, just like there are games that are objectively bad. Divinity 2, objectively good. The Avenger's game, objectively bad. Can you still have fun with objectively bad games? Of course! That doesn't make them good though.

I understood that as how many quality "porn game".

I mean how many quality "porn game" have you seen in recent years ?

And by that i mean :

- We only talk about finished game.

- We talk about porn game with not only good smut content but also good gameplay or other inner qualities not related to porn.

Maybe he did mean that, but when he just writes "How many quality games have you seen in recent years?" without specifying what kind, then it's hard to discern what he meant don't you think? As for your point, I can't really give my opinion, I don't really follow porn game development. I have ones that I like, both finished and otherwise, but I don't really follow many developers outside of like 1 or 2 that I really like. Also personally feel like that's a bit strict of a requirement. There are plenty of porn games with great art but mediocre gameplay and vice versa, but they can still be good. An artist is probably not going to be a great game developer, and a game developer is probably not gonna be a great artist, and hiring one or the other is generally not cheap.

Either way we should stop here, getting way off topic now

 

[Readerf2b]

The mainstream gaming industry is beginning to charge $70 for soulless, cash grab, microtransaction fueled, buggy messes of games, and are so anti sexuality these days it isn't funny. But when a group of devs, being fellow people of culture, are trying to give us the one of the highest quality, detailed, explicit sexual fantasy experiences we all want, people tear the game to shreds before the game is even out, and say they aren't even worth half the cost? I know this is a free site but holy shit, aren't we all a bunch of horny geeks that love fictional porn, especially games? Why wouldn't everyone want to support a game with this much potential? Internet negativity is something else, lol.

Yeah, industry gets more and more monopolised, fucking creators and gamers, its bad that we didnt listent to grandpa Marx.
But I see subverse as a cheap shot at us, people of culture. Lets be serious, this game is not going to have a big living world like "sid meiers pirates" (yeah im that old, i played that) its not going to have tactic fights on fire emblem level, not even on pheonix point level. Maybe it will have good shoot-em-up gameplay, but this is not the bleeding edge genire, not in 2021. So what we have? Dating sim with exeptionally good animation. Im seriously doubt it should cost 50$

 

[Emperor_Arcturus]

Yeah, industry gets more and more monopolised, fucking creators and gamers, its bad that we didnt listent to grandpa Marx.
But I see subverse as a cheap shot at us, people of culture. Lets be serious, this game is not going to have a big living world like "sid meiers pirates" (yeah im that old, i played that) its not going to have tactic fights on fire emblem level, not even on pheonix point level. Maybe it will have good shoot-em-up gameplay, but this is not the bleeding edge genire, not in 2021. So what we have? Dating sim with exeptionally good animation. Im seriously doubt it should cost 50$

Okay, they never promised any of that though. They're not promising a AAA game with incredibly new and unique gameplay or anything super fancy. They've said from the start, it'll be divided in two sections, a simple SHMUP and a simple ground grid-based combat. There's no need for them to go over the top on making anything crazy, they don't need to reinvent the wheel to make a good game. Also, I don't know if you're misquoting the price or changing it for your exchange rate but it's $30 USD, not $50

 

[Readerf2b]

Okay, they never promised any of that though. They're not promising a AAA game with incredibly new and unique gameplay or anything super fancy. They've said from the start, it'll be divided in two sections, a simple SHMUP and a simple ground grid-based combat. There's no need for them to go over the top on making anything crazy, they don't need to reinvent the wheel to make a good game. Also, I don't know if you're misquoting the price or changing it for your exchange rate but it's $30 USD, not $50

its 40$ i remembered upper price that i thought was lower. If they are not making AAA game why they are pricing it at almost AAA level? Especially since they already raised money on development? Since when saying "our gameplay will be mediocre, but you will buy it not for a gameplay" is ok? If they think that gameplay is not good, why the fuck did they make a game and not a visual novel/ interactive film? Because "game" is easer to sell. No one will pay 40$ for visual novel, for a "game" on the other hand, maybe.

 

[Emperor_Arcturus]

Why are they asking money for a product they made? Gee, maybe because they'd like to actually make money off their product so they can invest it into their business and keep it going? The money raised during their kickstarter has been used for development and for paying their employees, as well as buying assets, paying for copyright stuff, etc. $30 is NOT AAA price, $60 is, $30-$40 is indie game price generally. And also, you're getting roughly 30+ hours of game, when the full game's released

 

[striker2521]

TBH if the games almost completely voiced, a great story, fun gameplay, amazing animations i have no isse with the price of 30 to 40$ and this is comming from someone not in the US who has to pay more. I was expecting the price to be more considering how many VA's that they had to hire for this game. and lets be honest like emperor said 30 to 40 USD has become the gamming standard for non major studio games

 

[Agrik]

If they are not making AAA game why they are pricing it at almost AAA level?

For the games on f95, in the form of support, many people including me paid a lot more.
It was very upsetting when a developer who received $ 60 from me offered to buy the full version of the game in Steam for $ 10.

 

[Leeduva]

Don't mean to sound rude, but what the hell are you talking about? Hades, Persona 5 Strikers, Personal 5 Royale, Fenyx Rising, the new Ori game, Risk of Rain 2, the Final Fantasy 7 remake, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War, Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Outer Worlds, A Plague Tale: Innocence, Metro Exodus, Disco Elysium, and I could actually go in, and that was just in the past 2 years. I really fucking hate this stupid bullshit "No good games have come out since 20XX". You're wrong, there's great fucking games out and still coming out, both indie and AAA, and they're not hard to find.

Those are normies game. He talking about Eroge/Hentai games.

 

[Readerf2b]

For the games on f95, in the form of support, many people including me paid a lot more.
It was very upsetting when a developer who received $ 60 from me offered to buy the full version of the game in Steam for $ 10.

Eem, you were supporting them, not just buying their game. And all i said that i will wait till the price drops to 15$, probably in half a year.

 

[frostbeast4]

Theyve really added NTR to the game? Honestly I dont care, but I want to admit that this is very brave decision for a game this big. A lot of people gonna be pissed of by this

 

[Gundamu0079]

Theyve really added NTR to the game? Honestly I dont care, but I want to admit that this is very brave decision for a game this big. A lot of people gonna be pissed of by this

its studio fow... majority of their stuff is ntr stuff with girls getting fucked by monsters and what not