You can play through Subverse without unlock any scenes in Pandora. . It just give you a option to unlock scenes that tickle your fancy. There is no need for a larger story around, or context to these scenes, they just there for you to get excited about (or not).
I hear your opinion and I respect it. People are different.
When something become optional at that level, it loose any context what so ever. It doesn't need a larger story. It's like watch the center fold in some lewd magazine. It doesn't need a larger story to go with it, it's just there to get you excited (or not).I hear your opinion and I respect it. People are different.
I respectfully disagree though
Context in a scene surprisingly has multiple uses.
1) It can naturally improve the eroticism of a scene type. If one day your character wakes up from bed, and your girlfriend character is giving you a blowjob, the scene has the context of, "I woke up to a blowjob."
If you just unlock a blowjob animation on a bed, it's just a blowjob animation on a bed.
Even if you don't add any dialogue to, "I woke up to a blowjob," I believe the, "I woke up to a blowjob" scenario is much hotter than just the blowjob animation on a bed. The scenes can even be the same and have no dialogue but one would be innately hotter in my opinion than the other.
2) Context is a vessel for character dynamics.
Characters don't stop having personalities as soon as they get bedded. If a scene is missionary, you can make the context of that scene, "woman's first experience." Maybe that scene is more about the man getting the woman wet, seeing her breathe heavily in excitement and nervousness as he slowly inches in, waits for her to calm down as he presses onwards pushing her initial fear and feeling of pain slowly but surely into pleasure.
Or... it could be the 900th time you've had missionary sex.
Instead of her going to bed, she grabs you by the neck and pulls you into bed. Her feet are clutched around your back saying she doesn't want you to pull back, and as you press in, she needed a lot less preperation and is wet in anticipation for the sexual pleasure that she knows is coming.
Same scene. Different context.
3) It's useful for establishing relationship dynamics and changes.
A scene where Killi's being pounded by a mantic from behind changes based on context.
Did Killi get frustrated by the lack of battle going on and decide to ask Lily to cook her up a mantic battle opponent and then lose? The mantic beat Killi, and Lily approaches saying, that she made this specific mantic's battlelust also affect his actual lust. Killi tired and exhausted from fighting at full strength has no power to resist as the hulking mantic pins her to the ground and makes use of her body.
Or....
Killi got frustrated sexually. She keeps buying bigger and bigger dildos and nothing is bringing her the pleasure she wants. She's extremely horny, so she goes and asks Lily to cook her up something special. Lily's mantic is brought to life, and Killi gets near the bed and puts her ass up. The mantic sees this and drives into her as Killi is finally getting what she wants.
Exact same visual imagery.
Killi doggystyled by mantic.
Context of the scene decided who was leading, and could be the deciding factor of erotic preference for some people.
No it doesn't. Each optional scene can have context on their own.
The erotic design of a lewd magazine and an erotic video game are different.
I think this is a good mentality, but again that doesn't mean you need to sacrifice all context to do it. That idea with Killi and the mantics I stated before can work even with a Pandora, "pick your fetish" system.
Almost.
This whole time it's been a discussion right?
There's a difference between what porn videos can do, and what porn video games can do. The two should have different expectations because they're different media.
When someone upload the pandora scenes to pornhub, and some rando dude click on the clips... what does that person care about context other than what's going when watching? People in this thread that just do the same, watch the scenes from pandora and ignoring the game else, what do they care about context?
It get posted when and if it get available. Just make room for a 25gb download and be patient
Oh, thanks c:It get posted when and if it get available. Just make room for a 25gb download and be patient
Is it really that much harder to add a one sentence line to give context to something? I mean realistically, you don’t play this game because you like asteroids or Xcom, because you’d play superior versions of them.
I want Fortnite to be full of lewd models, sex and nudity, but hey, that wont happen either. What people want a game to be and what it is, is two different things. Why someone play a game is highly individual. If you some completely random guy on steam picking up Subverse without any idea what the creators been into and done before. They would have other expectations to the game than someone who knew. FOW wanted to make a game, so they are making a game. It doesn't matter what you, me or anyone else think about that. If you don't like a game don't play it. Very simple really.
I’m not even sure what you’re arguing, but I agree with you, the game is what it is. Plenty of people have argued the same thing I did, and plenty disagree.
They haven't told us what they planned on revamping about the system. What are we to look forward to in a revamp if it could potentially miss all the marks people were criticizing it for? Why is it so impossible for them to say whether or not they intend to add dialogue or context for scenes? They were vague about how they'd improve the static camera system in their previous dev diaries. When they released their improvement in this patch, it ultimately boiled down to being able to move the camera 50 pixels in each direction. Don't you think most people would prefer knowing what the planned revamps for Pandora are, so they don't get hyped for what could be the equivalent of just moving the camera 50 pixels?
And for many of us, having tons more 10-30 second long loops wouldn't solve the problem. Then again, telling you this for the 50th time is pointless. You'll still continue to strawman half the thread with disingenuous replies and use the most unreasonable arguments (the "anti-NTR" crowd) from tourist users to scapegoat the rest of our points.
I don't understand this logic. Shrugging off any form of critic on the porn scenes with "eh... they're just optional" is deflection.
Did you seriously just bring up your desire for Fortnite to have porn and not getting it as the same as what people are critical about Subverse? God, I know you're trying to hard to be an unpaid Subverse PR employee, but make your bogus deflections less obvious.
The difference here is that we were promised a porn game and many of the features we were promised to encounter said in porn game was scrapped and edited off their steam page a month before EA went live. Not letting people know that they were going to change a lot of what people justifiably expected to be in the game before they let us pay for it was a big bad decision by itself. It's nobody's fault for expecting there to be context and lead-up to scenes if we were promised it. It's equally not an unreasonable request that hundreds/thousands of players are asking that some context be added to the Pandora system we got. Fow did not want to make just a game, they wanted to make a porn game, and promised us a porn game.
Devotion/loyality quests is content coming further on. Remember the game is a work in progress. We get it served piece meal. We won't have the "grand picture" before the game is completed.
You where promised a PORN game? You got an actual source of they promise you a PORN game? Even looking back at their kickstarter page where does it say PORN game? There is even youtube clips with the creators stating they are NOT making a porn game. But yet they did promise you a PORN game?
Yes, when they called it a porn game and referred to it as one in many instances. I and others have already posted things they promised/teased we'd see and then scrapped without a word. Do you not recall how many times the Bulgetto and Lily scenes was mentioned and brought up every time you and the other guy made this same argument? I guess you just skipped through the replies in your attempt to stonewall people again. To make the argument that they never promised a porn game or advertised one is the most dishonest shit imaginable. Their previous steam page, their post EA one, their Twitter posts, their first youtube trailer all highlight and put focus on the porn aspects of the game.
No shit. The point is that in some of your posts you'll talk to people as though their being unreasonable for any form of critic, large or small. ...Then you'll throw out dumb arguments, like "It's not a porn game and it wasn't promised to be one." You guys are constantly moving the goalpost.
Imagine coming to an F95 thread to make your second ever comment in it be a hypocritical one. Are we not allowed to discuss games here? Would be fine if we were just praising and saying what we thought would be good ideas for it, even if devs can't see it?
