hiddink

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This game is pretty good , if you think about it... it has meh sex scenes but lot of horny shit and it's solid
 

Gwedelino

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None of the games mentioned seem better than Subverse (even in it's unfinished form). For me. And if Subverse porn content looks disconected from game to you - I don't understand how Skyrim with porn added is enjoyable to you as porn content is completely unrelated to story. Visual novels are not even actual game (unless it does have some game mechanics) - just a digital porn novels with pictures.
I don't agree with you if you think MGQ isn't better than subverse.

I know MGQ is not a masterpiece of gameplay, it's a really simple turn-based RPG, but at the very same time, Subverse is also very basic compared to other "non-porn" games sharing a similar gameplay.

However, story-wise MGQ completely crush subverse. Characters are far more likeable, story is way more powerful and a lot of scenes have way more impact.

It's pretty common to hear from MGQ players that they came for the porn and stayed for the game. I don't think Subverse will ever achieve that.
 
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I'm getting 'Legend of Queen Opala: Origin' discussion flashbacks every time I visit here. Is this NTR? What is the point of a male MC if all the women fuck everything in sight? Why are some of the porn scenes seem so disconnected from the game? These things are the filler discussion that make pages go in the triple digits.
 
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aris666

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I don't agree with you if you think MGQ isn't better than subverse.

I know MGQ is not a masterpiece of gameplay, it's a really simple turn-based RPG, but at the very same time, Subverse is also very basic compared to other "non-porn" games sharing a similar gameplay.

However, story-wise MGQ completely crush subverse. Characters are far more likeable, story is way more powerful and a lot of scenes have way more impact.

It's pretty common to hear from MGQ players that they came for the porn and stayed for the game. I don't think Subverse will ever achieve that.
It may have better written scenario (but for me Subverse scenario is more interesting).
But as you noted - it's very simplistic RPG. And it's main character is shota - hate that.
 

grunt_pepper

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Sadly, me too... :HideThePain:


Yeah, it's been said many times that SFOW is well known for their bestiality/gangbang/rapey content and I guess their main audience are fans of such stuff, which I totally don't have a problem with. Though, their decision to go with a male protagonist/harem route and keeping their main thing (bestiality) at the same time was really a bad idea from the beginning because as we see it's one of the main issues for many players. Such opposite things like harem and bestiality/NTR don't work well together, and mixing them in one game is a one way to piss a lot of your customers off...


100% of this.
Wasn't this known since before they released the first version of the game?

I remember when people pressed the devs over the fact that the game was going to have bestiality stuff in it, and wanted to know how that was going to jive with the supposed romance/harem aspects, the best the devs could come up was a promise that there would be an option to skip the bestiality/NTR content. Mind you, they literally meant that you'd just skip these scenes, but they would still be happening and the plot would acknowledge this fact - so what they were proposing is that you were just going to miss out on the majority of the content.

Realistically, they should have decided before even announcing the project which direction they were going to go with - vanilla harem romance or hardcore bestiality breeding - either choice would have been "fine" and founds its audience, but by deciding to deceitfully market to both they ended up in this weird middle-ground that pleases nobody.

Not that the rest of the game is any better. The whole thing is just a monument to wasted potential and lack of talent.
 

aris666

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Wasn't this known since before they released the first version of the game?

I remember when people pressed the devs over the fact that the game was going to have bestiality stuff in it, and wanted to know how that was going to jive with the supposed romance/harem aspects, the best the devs could come up was a promise that there would be an option to skip the bestiality/NTR content. Mind you, they literally meant that you'd just skip these scenes, but they would still be happening and the plot would acknowledge this fact - so what they were proposing is that you were just going to miss out on the majority of the content.

Realistically, they should have decided before even announcing the project which direction they were going to go with - vanilla harem romance or hardcore bestiality breeding - either choice would have been "fine" and founds its audience, but by deciding to deceitfully market to both they ended up in this weird middle-ground that pleases nobody.

Not that the rest of the game is any better. The whole thing is just a monument to wasted potential and lack of talent.
All this content was moved to Pandora system.

Thoud I would really like vanilla harem scenes as at the moment there is only one (ffm pov bj)
 

FreshRevenge

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Sadly, me too... :HideThePain:


Yeah, it's been said many times that SFOW is well known for their bestiality/gangbang/rapey content and I guess their main audience are fans of such stuff, which I totally don't have a problem with. Though, their decision to go with a male protagonist/harem route and keeping their main thing (bestiality) at the same time was really a bad idea from the beginning because as we see it's one of the main issues for many players. Such opposite things like harem and bestiality/NTR don't work well together, and mixing them in one game is a one way to piss a lot of your customers off...


100% of this.
If you look on Steam the trailers that are there is kind of deceptive. Yes they mention that they were the studio that made a werewolf eat out a girl's butthole or something. But the impression that I got was you are a captain of a ship, and you are recruiting a bunch of hot females. So far so good right. But looking at the Pandora's scenes it like none of the scenes cater to me.

Now it's fine that there is some mantic sex but it's too much. They have planets that you can scan and you can do space or ground combat but I find it to have no incentive to do them for pooter points to unlock scenes I don't even care about. So I unlock the scenes I want to see and the rest stay locked and I don't even bother doing the other planets.

I play a lot of games and I like doing side stuff, but not here. So unless they start listening to the majority of people, this game is only going to get a small reception.

Sad really. I thought this would be that Mass Effect type game with sex. And while it does have sex scenes, it does seem underwhelming.
 

Kalist001

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Anyone who thought this was going to be a NFSW Mass Effect has gotten a rude awakening by now. I was one of those at the start but I soon came to realize what this game was going be all about...
Imho, if the devs came out at the start and flat out told that the game would be like people wouldn't really care much about it...
 

Enigmanic

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Anyone who thought this was going to be a NFSW Mass Effect has gotten a rude awakening by now. I was one of those at the start but I soon came to realize what this game was going be all about...
Imho, if the devs came out at the start and flat out told that the game would be like people wouldn't really care much about it...
It's exactly the same deceitful bullshit they pulled with Scarlet Nights.
 

aris666

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That's even worse - so now that they finally realized they have made a major blunder in how the game was advertised they're trying to backpedal?

Not that it matters since the gameplay aspect of the game is completely detached from the porn, which in turn is completely detached from the narrative.

Backpedal what? They did realize that a lot of people wouldn't happy (as people were very vocal in kickstarter pages) with things happening in story and just adding "skip" button - so some compromise was made. Some scenes with captain happen during the story itself (not just Pandora). And there should be long/higher quality scenes with captain and crew members for devotions quests
 

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*insert ah shit here we go again gif here*

For folks with such negative thoughts on the game, y’all sure do keep coming back to it for more than a year and change, and 4 major updates in. Guess hate fucking is one of your kinks :p

Way too much to quote, so I’ll just run off the usual stuff.

Mass Effect/XCOM with porn - Never claimed by the studio, mainly a headline from articles written about it. If you looked at the initial trailer, early dev diaries, or even beta gameplay, you’d have seen what you were getting. Ship combat ala bullet hell shooters, and tactical RPG more akin to Final Fantasy Tactics than XCOM. The comparison simply comes from those two franchises being popular and also featuring aliens.

Sex/Pandora and its place in the story -
Something that’s been gone over numerous times, so I’ll reiterate, I was not pleased with Pandora when it initially dropped, as were many people. Plenty of people here and on the discord server had made their thoughts on the matter.

But that is not something that will be addressed immediately. Or rather it can’t be at this point. Given how much work already went into it, it would be a large setback in time and work to do the promised overhaul now. This is why I believe the way the scenes released changed from everyone getting a couple, to just the newest lady. More effort can be shown in Sova and Fortune’s scenes. If you can’t see the difference, then you probably should get off the thread then.

Scene variety - This is only by nature of early access, as mentioned recently. There should be a greater spread in kinks by the time every scene is available to unlock. Will every scene do something for you? Of course not, but I doubt any game has that potential. Even in some of my other favorite smut games, there will be girls I will ignore or not care to see their scenes. We all have our preferences. And no matter which way the scenes went, be it just humanoid or monster based, someone would still be complaining about something, be it their kinks not being in yet, or that a certain girl hasn’t done a specific thing yet.

As an extra tidbit for the ones not doing all the planets, you really ought to. Even if you’re not spending the points, you are getting materials for mantic creation and ship upgrades, as well as building the devotion bar. The devotion quests, when added, will more than likely require a maxed meter. Akin to the loyalty quests of Me2 (the only comparison this game really has had), they’ll be personal journeys with each gal, culminating in a multiple minute long cinematic lovemaking scene. Minus that silly fade to black when the good stuff occurs :devilish:

This’ll likely be what makes or breaks the game for many of y’all, so we’ll have to wait and see. But for those that want to do the math, 3-4 minute scenes multiplied by 10 girls is gonna equal a very spicy compilation one day :cool:

NTR - not a thing. It’s a polyamorous harem. The devs already made a statement on it back in the Reddit Q and A. Some people took the waifu term far too literal, and not as a clear joke on the term. The only one in the game that even got a girl stolen is the bad guy you offed in the beginning of the game.

And for that one person claiming they got banned for asking for a skip feature…no you didn’t. Others were asking for methods of making the game easier too. Some with actual disabilities that made playing the space combat difficult. You wouldn’t have gotten banned unless you were doing monumentally against the rules, as the punishments scale from warnings to mutes, to kicks, to temp bans, and then full ones.

This game isn’t perfect, no game is. And FOW isn’t a one genre developer. They were known for certain big films, but that shouldn’t exclude the more vanilla and comedic work they’ve done. The tone of the game was expressed right in the initial trailer, referring to the Captain as a loser of no significance whatsoever. So naturally he isn’t gonna feel like a main character. But he is piloting the ship (the waifus are just the copilots remember) and directing the ground forces. So he still has his value.

That’ll do for now. You may now resume your usual banter, call me a white knight, secret paid employee, mega fanboy, and so on while you continue to wait and inevitably play the next update in the new year :coffee:
 

jeriz

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why are there 2 files in go file? the part 1 is already playable, what is the point of having part 2?
 
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