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Metal_Lust

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Pretty shit game tbh.
Well, it's not all that bad, but it certainly have room for constructive criticism.

The game play is a bit lacking in a various aspects.
It's not exactly terrible, but it's a bit towards mediocre.

There's nothing rly that special or innovative about it, not that it needs to be, tho it's still miles better than what many such games offers. At least it isn't that broken.

With that said, especially given that the game is on Steam, I wouldn't agree with the "it's a porn game, what do you expect" argument.

The space combat especially could've been way better.
The view / perspective is very badly done, most of the time you don't have any visibility and it ends up being "hackish" and not so much as an intended "feature" of the gameplay mechanic.

They could easily have gone wild with this one, without much more effort tbh.
Both if they decided to just make a better isometric perspective or/and if they implemented stuff like 'changing perspectives' (been done before, entirely doable) given the game is already 3D based anyways and it still would've played on a "2D field" regardless.

Another criticism I personally have is the lack of customization of your weapons.

And this isn't like a "hard to implement" feature, they just haven't even thought about it... (it's been around since Contra ffs!).
You could have at least a few types of main cannon, I don't rly like the "sluggish" type of shots, have to constantly re-adjust sand 'lead' your shots. I'd much rather some "lazer" type of shots rather than the "plasma-esque" slobs you're forced to deal with.

A game should be fun, this one in particular...
I don't mind higher difficulty/complexity and I enjoy a good challenge, but before all I want to be able to have fun.


I much prefer the ground combat tho that could also be improved.
The "Special form" is a bit, "whatever", if there were longer battles where it could've been practically useful or it took more like 2 turns (maybe with increased dmg taken) instead, that would make more sense. As of now, it's more like "variety".
There are other stuff that could be worked on too.


Overall, the game lacks a bit of "roaming / grinding" for me and stuff to do side ways, but maybe that's just my take on the game.

They've also "overdid it" with the dialogues, I mean I just wanna kill stuff and unlock more content.
I don't care about the "overly convoluted plot" that's not even "that deep" to begin with and can't decide on whether it wants to lean more towards parody or be an actual drama.

Maybe I sound a bit harsh here, I don't mean it's rly that bad, I still enjoyed it I guess, but some dialogue sequences I found rly tedious and way overextended. Like I'm here sitting for more than 5 minutes waiting for all the characters of the game take their turns and it's been 15 minutes until we get back to the gameplay, it could've been paced better, in smaller segments maybe, to say the least.

The humor also didn't always lend with me.
On many instances it ends up as "trying too hard" or too "on the nose", which doesn't work that welll due to the lack of "contrast" so to say.

It's a bit "hard" to land a "dick joke", when you're constantly surrounded by "dick-shaped" spaceships and stuff if you get my point. :p

Tho it's not just that, some of the jokes are just "bland".
It's not an easy task to do a good game, even if it's a parody themed, which is not necessary easier to do.
It's not a bad job, considering this is their first and likely only game as far as the rumors go and they have no previous experience in the field other than the 3D modeling and VFX.


The "meat" of the game also could've been a bit better, in terms of interactivity or relationship depth.
The short loops becomes old quickly and you don't have much of an interaction during the ones with a "happy ending". :p
The relationships are basically non-existent in terms of evolution or any other aspect beyond being stuck at a "promising potential".

I know it's just a "parody fap" game, but still, especially considering all the (imo) virtually unnecessary content in terms of dialogues and "plot", might've as well focused instead on more "intimate relationship" between the various characters. Or had some more and 'meaningful' side stories you could explore and your relationship actually meaning something.

But again, I guess maybe that's overambitious, tho the potential is there and it rly wouldn't be all THAT hard to pull it off.
Some dialogue scenes (hopefully not so much of a Congressional speech type) and some few more combat levels.

I'm surprised they've went for so much "cartoonie" look instead something more "realistic", given they are pretty good at that.
With some more leaning on the cut-scenes (instead the Ren'py / VN type of dialogue) they could've really made something much more effective.

I mean, even with the same level of gameplay, getting to a much more "spectacular" cinematic cut scene would've been greatly effective.



I'm glad that they at least made the character's lips move.
That was rly off putting for some reason. xD
 
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Metal_Lust

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Imagine being Taron and having this little scenes
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Yep, and she's 1 of the better co-pilots.
I've got some many unspent points on her.

Which reminds me that this mechanic is also stupid.
They should've let you have a "base pool" and sped pts on whichever scenes you prefer.

There isn't much point the way the system works currently, as your relationships pts don't rly matter all that much, safe for eventual end game cutscenes. Which you'll be able to just watch online anyways, like with almost any game out there.
 

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To clarify, they didn’t cast a SFW actress and thus made Kasidora un-lewdable.

The role was specified from the start to be a SFW role in the audition for it. She was never intended to be lewded. The design choice to have her completely covered besides her eyes, while Celestine is allowed to emote with her whole face should be another clue to their plans for them.
This is what I mean. It was a stupid decision from the start of the devs.
And I am surprised how out of touch they are. It was clear from the beginning, that there are people that will lewd Kasidora.


Like a said, this is still something I can't understand because how stupid this decision was.
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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This is what I mean. It was a stupid decision from the start of the devs.
And I am surprised how out of touch they are. It was clear from the beginning, that there are people that will lewd Kasidora.


Like a said, this is still something I can't understand because how stupid this decision was.
I mean people will lewd anything, that doesn't mean the dev should just give up on what they intend for the character. Hell people are making art for little Dallick, despite being told by the guy that voices him that he ain't getting any :p
 

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Imagine being Taron and having this little scenes
This was unfortunately a side effect of them trying that experimental 360 scene on the FENIX during her stealth mission. Rest assured she'll catch up in number in time. And do remember she does appear in other waifu's scenes as well :)
 

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I hate the "Pandora's box" thing ! This is so lazy there is not context to 90 % of the porn scenes in the game ! So the scientist chick desire to fuck her test subject - why , no answer no build up ? Suddenly the robot chick is gang banged by the crew - again zero context no the overall story . This is no point of playing the game - just go on Rule 34 and watch the sex scenes. And there is no dialog, no dirty talk , no nothing just 10 sec of loop animation !
The gallery is like this because before the initial release they teased a bunch of totally-not-NTR and monster content as mandatory parts of the story. This isn't surprising for FOW but the game was being marketed at vanilla audiences who weren't familiar with them. People asked questions and FOW members gave some absolute gems in response like "You aren't forced to watch" which caused a small shitstorm.

Presumably they gutted that content and did some rewrites, but it's FOW and a decent chunk of their fans are into that stuff, so they decided on a middle ground of keeping anything "controversial" in gallery limbo. Don't expect those scenes to suddenly become story relevant.
 

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The gallery is like this because before the initial release they teased a bunch of totally-not-NTR and monster content as mandatory parts of the story. This isn't surprising for FOW but the game was being marketed at vanilla audiences who weren't familiar with them. People asked questions and FOW members gave some absolute gems in response like "You aren't forced to watch" which caused a small shitstorm.

Presumably they gutted that content and did some rewrites, but it's FOW and a decent chunk of their fans are into that stuff, so they decided on a middle ground of keeping anything "controversial" in gallery limbo. Don't expect those scenes to suddenly become story relevant.
Yeaaaah that's not how it went at all. If anything its the complete opposite. The only smut we see in the story are the ones between the captain and the ladies (recruitment and devotion), while everything else is in Pandora is for you to unlock and view at your leisure.

If anything, the majority of players (including people here), want them integrated into the story. Which I find hilarious, considering how much certain crowds also do not want to see the mantic scenes at all because they think it constitutes NTR (it doesn't).
 

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Yeaaaah that's not how it went at all. If anything its the complete opposite. The only smut we see in the story are the ones between the captain and the ladies (recruitment and devotion), while everything else is in Pandora is for you to unlock and view at your leisure.

If anything, the majority of players (including people here), want them integrated into the story. Which I find hilarious, considering how much certain crowds also do not want to see the mantic scenes at all because they think it constitutes NTR (it doesn't).
That's exactly how it went and you can still see the drama on the Steam forum and this thread where people quoted the original page before it was edited.
Whilst walking past the Laboratory, the player can hear sexually suggestive moans coming from within as a bipedal alien stud called Bulgetto pleasures your Chief Science Officer. There is nothing you can do about this, so don't even try.
An enigmatic alien known only as Chodestool will engage in doggystyle copulation with various crew members if you forget to feed him
Just search for these quotes and you'll find them. I'm not saying this IS currently an NTR game, but I am saying that it was advertising NTR content before release and the backlash has effected the way the game is designed.
 
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Yeah it seems the "ntr backer goal" never existed. People on this site use the tag wrong all the time and this include the mods so that sucks and a lot of times you never know if a game has actual ntr on it. And the sensitive self inserts, those people need to touch grass is not that serious, is never that serious. Thanks for answering
Okay. but why is it still tagged NTR? has an update put it neither to throw a middle finger to the whiners or that the mods here are just being lazy and keeping it in?
 
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Mr. Weeaboo

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That's exactly how it went and you can still see the drama on the Steam forum and this thread where people quoted the original page before it was edited.


Just search for these quotes and you'll find them. I'm not saying this IS currently an NTR game, but I am saying that it was advertising NTR content before release and the backlash has effected the way the game is designed.
I'd have to disagree, we funded additional xeno animations, we'd seen the mantics in the blogs even before the steam page went up. If you weren't aware there'd be alien boning in a sci-fi based lewd game, I don't know what to tell you there.

Personally I don't recall seeing that on steam. I do recall people using edited pictures of the Xeno milestone and the mantics page on their website to make it seem NTR like. So it wouldn't surprise me if that also was part of it.
 

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Okay. but why is it still tagged NTR? has an update put it ineither to throw a middle finger tothe whiners or that mods just being lazy and keeping it in?
Its the latter. Literally the only person that gets 'cucked' is the bad guy we took DEMI from before the events of the game. And I suppose, the way the story is going, the Empress Celestina is being seemingly attracted to the captain, despite Erark's attempts to charm her. But
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Its the latter. Literally the only person that gets 'cucked' is the bad guy we took DEMI from before the events of the game. And I suppose, the way the story is going, the Empress Celestina is being seemingly attracted to the captain, despite Erark's attempts to charm her. But
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Who wouldn't cuck the bad guy?
 
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Anyways, how done is this game and how does it play? Concidering playing it, since now I'm curious about the shitstorm that it has accidentally surrounded it self in, whether there really was "that" was a goal or it was optic illusions or tunnel vision for the fear of "big slut-making cock" from xenos towards your "precious & innocent crew members!".
 

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Anyways, how done is this game and how does it play? Concidering playing it, since now I'm curious about the shitstorm that it has accidentally surrounded it self in, whether there really was "that" was a goal or it was optic illusions or tunnel vision for the fear of "big slut-making cock" from xenos towards your "precious & innocent crew members!".
Well we're at 0.9, the game steadily growing by a jump every 3-4 months since the first hurdle. Each update added a waifu's recruitment storyline, plus an initial sampling of their pandora scenes. Since July last year, they'd been adding the devotion missions to the game (the somewhat equivalent of mass effect's loyalty quests). Their culminating scene is being held til the full release of the game.

Depending on how the 10th and last lady is added, the game should be complete either by the summer or fall.

Gameplay wise there's VN-dialogue sections, full cinematic cutscenes, and the gameplay is divided between SCHMUP (shoot em up) ship sections, akin to bullet hell shooters. And the other is tactical grid combat akin to the Final Fantasy Tactics series.

Fair warning though, its been stated that saves will be incompatible with the 1.0 release. Essentially the game will be in such a different state than the early access version, saves from the old version simply won't work. So you may just want to wait, since we're so close anyway.
 
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Well we're at 0.9, the game steadily growing by a jump every 3-4 months since the first hurdle. Each update added a waifu's recruitment storyline, plus an initial sampling of their pandora scenes. Since July last year, they'd been adding the devotion missions to the game (the somewhat equivalent of mass effect's loyalty quests). Their culminating scene is being held til the full release of the game.

Depending on how the 10th and last lady is added, the game should be complete either by the summer or fall.

Gameplay wise there's VN-dialogue sections, full cinematic cutscenes, and the gameplay is divided between SCHMUP (shoot em up) ship sections, akin to bullet hell shooters. And the other is tactical grid combat akin to the Final Fantasy Tactics series.

Fair warning though, its been stated that saves will be incompatible with the 1.0 release. Essentially the game will be in such a different state than the early access version, saves from the old version simply won't work. So you may just want to wait, since we're so close anyway.
Okay, thanks dude. on the other hand though, I do hope someone compiles the shitstorm that went around once this game got added to steam or much earlier. What even GAVE the idea that it was an NTR-focused game?
 

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I do think the game is worth the money I paid for it.
It was one of the first adult games I ever purchased, and I have enjoyed what I played of it.
Although I'm not a fan of the ship battles but the grid stuff is cool.
 

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Okay, thanks dude. on the other hand though, I do hope someone compiles the shitstorm that went around once this game got added to steam or much earlier. What even GAVE the idea that it was an NTR-focused game?
The fact that the ladies can fuck other things besides the captain. While you could make the argument its all in Pandora and optional to view, some folk point to dialogue in the game that very much implies it happens regardless. So just the mere mention that these incredibly horny women might be satiating themselves with other lifeforms, yet still be in a promiscuous relationship with the main character somehow constitutes NTR. Despite none of them being dissatisfied or even hinting that they prefer one over the other. It fills like none of the bubbles of NTR, but evidently the idea of women having autonomy (which is kind of the theme of the game, given we're fighting a celibate empire that wants to control people having sex entirely) kinda just flies over their heads.

Basically they took the term 'waifu' to be very literal. Instead of the joke that's in line with the sense of humor the game has.
 
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