Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.0] [Studio Fow]

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I never said, that it is bad, that a team making their first game.

What I mean that there is different expectations that consumer has, between one guy and a team.

As an example, what the expectations of consumers increases.

More budget = more expectation
The higher the price = the more expectation the consumer has
You can see this in all games, that the expectation is always higher for high budget and high price game, as an example AAA games. Or now AAAA games...

People will rate this game different, then a game from a single person.
This is because:
1.The high profile company
2.The cost $29.99
3.Kickstarter 1.668.626£.

Yes, I agree and also disagree with you. Budget and the people that are working on a game are going hand in hand. You cant expect a game without money or people.



And even if only one person worked on this game, I would still rate it a 1/5 because its a bad game.

I’d have to encourage you to play more games if this is considered a 1.

 

[CappoUnknown]

I’d have to encourage you to play more games if this is considered a 1.

I will consider every game that I stopped playing because its too bad as a 1.

Its like school. With 50% your passes and can increase your score. And everything below 50% you failed and its a 1.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I will consider every game that I stopped playing because its too bad as a 1.

Its like school. With 50% your passes and can increase your score. And everything below 50% you failed and its a 1.

And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.

 

[Jjac]

I like the gameplay but I'm with you on the dialogue. It's a bit cringe.

It is cringe as f*** buy I've got the impression that it suppose to be that.

 

[CappoUnknown]

And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.

I still can change my opinion and review, what I also have done for a few of my reviews, because the game have gotten better or worse.
But for now, I rated this game in his current form. IF I will change my opinion and review depends on the future of this game.

And we both have 2 different tastes.
You like this game, and think that in the current form its even better then almost everything else on this website.
And
I dislike this game, and think that it waste of time and the devs have fucked up and wasted the potential of this game.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

I still can change my opinion and review, what I also have done for a few of my reviews, because the game have gotten better or worse.
But for now, I rated this game in his current form. IF I will change my opinion and review depends on the future of this game.

And we both have 2 different tastes.
You like this game, and think that in the current form its even better then almost everything else on this website.
And
I dislike this game, and think that it waste of time and the devs have fucked up and wasted the potential of this game.

So if this is a waste of time, in its current state, what does that say for games that have existed before this was even funded, and are still not complete yet?

 

[CappoUnknown]

So if this is a waste of time, in its current state, what does that say for games that have existed before this was even funded, and are still not complete yet?

What do you want from me with this?

I NEVER complained yet about the long development time not here and not in another game.

There are 17.665 games on this website. And clearly there are many games of the 17.665 that are a waste of time.

 

[coco2345]

Its mostly from early reviews. Lotta folks had misconceptions about the game (The NTR tag is very much not applicable here, but enough people cried wolf til it got added). And a lot are just impatient people who wished FOW had just stuck to making movies.

They made the porn disconnected with the gameplay, this is why most of the reviews are negative

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

What do you want from me with this?

I NEVER complained yet about the long development time not here and not in another game.

There are 17.665 games on this website. And clearly there are many games of the 17.665 that are a waste of time.

So that doesn’t come off a bit harsh to call any given unfinished game a waste of time? All the smut isn’t in, the story isn’t finished, so that statement comes off a tad presumptuous.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

They made the porn disconnected with the gameplay, this is why most of the reviews are negative

I find this argument rather silly. Because half the complaints are that the content in pandora is short, but yet they also want it connected into the story.

Personally, I think the reason they did it this way is so players that didn’t want to watch certain content (and there were soooo many that don’t) that they don’t have to see it if they don’t unlock it. Pandora even has filters to avoid such a situation. That’s why the main story content just features scenes relevant to said story: I.E plot scenes between the captain and the waifus he recruits.

That being said, they are changing the waifu’s progression system and are updating all the planet encounters. So perhaps the version people have been wanting so much will be in 1.0. Something so big is not something that could’ve been dropped into the middle of the game development.

 

[CappoUnknown]

So that doesn’t come off a bit harsh to call any given unfinished game a waste of time? All the smut isn’t in, the story isn’t finished, so that statement comes off a tad presumptuous.

I never said, that a game that is unfinished is a waste of time. I said, that a bad game is a waste of time!

And for me Subverse is a bad game.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

It is cringe as f*** buy I've got the impression that it suppose to be that.

It's basically the same type of cringe dialogue you'd find in porno films just in the trappings of a pseudo-space opera.

 

[CenturionFlames]

The ratings are pretty accurate. Game isn't good. It's a terrible slog-fest, combined with shitty dialogue and rather boring MC. People need to stop chalking it up to early NTR. It doesn't exist, and people understand that now.

Point is the sex scenes are godawful, you can find better ones just looking at JAVs, Porn, or even other games here, and they at least have story relevance. Here they're an after-thought and not really worth the effort to see them. Since they're not even interactable, they're just shitty 3D porn, that you could see by looking at anyone from the animations tab, at least there you got a lot of variety.

Ultimately Subverse does porn terribly, game isn't that fun, story isn't good, and the overall cast is just eh... I could find better casts of characters in other stuff found here. But the most damning factor is as a porn game the porn just sucks. I could look up the scenes online, and they're not too different from just watching another creators animations.

 

[The D0n]

The ratings are pretty accurate. Game isn't good. It's a terrible slog-fest, combined with shitty dialogue and rather boring MC. People need to stop chalking it up to early NTR. It doesn't exist, and people understand that now.

Point is the sex scenes are godawful, you can find better ones just looking at JAVs, Porn, or even other games here, and they at least have story relevance. Here they're an after-thought and not really worth the effort to see them. Since they're not even interactable, they're just shitty 3D porn, that you could see by looking at anyone from the animations tab, at least there you got a lot of variety.

Ultimately Subverse does porn terribly, game isn't that fun, story isn't good, and the overall cast is just eh... I could find better casts of characters in other stuff found here. But the most damning factor is as a porn game the porn just sucks. I could look up the scenes online, and they're not too different from just watching another creators animations.

I agree, Projekt Passion is what the game should be but with all that backing there seems to be a real lack of creative talent behind Subverse.

 

[CenturionFlames]

I agree, Projektassion is what the game should be but with all that backing there seems to be a real lack of creative talent behind Subverse.

That's the issue. With a high budget like they had how are the sex scenes so lacking? I mean most like myself could forgive the game for having lackluster story and gameplay if the porn was just as good, but it isn't. It's the tamest, most boring stuff around.

 

[YeetBrowler]

And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.

Bruh please do not act like the game will be better when 1.0 is out.

We've seen everything the game has to offer.
The gameplay is repetitive and nothing special.
The plot is mediocre at best, the dialogue is cringe and dates itself before it's even fully complete.
The porn is good, the animations are smooth and the voice acting is good. There is credit to be given there

Saying "well it's not done yet" would make sense if this was still 0.3 but the game is almost done! I think that excuse has worn out its welcome.

If you like it cool, but please don't try and gaslight us and tell us it will get better lol.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

Bruh please do not act like the game will be better when 1.0 is out.

We've seen everything the game has to offer.
The gameplay is repetitive and nothing special.
The plot is mediocre at best, the dialogue is cringe and dates itself before it's even fully complete.
The porn is good, the animations are smooth and the voice acting is good. There is credit to be given there

Saying "well it's not done yet" would make sense if this was still 0.3 but the game is almost done! I think that excuse has worn out its welcome.

If you like it cool, but please don't try and gaslight us and tell us it will get better lol.

It isn't really worn out m8. You don't introduce substantial changes to the system in the midst of development. Most of the feedback the game has been given won't be applied until the system changes. Doing things like part-way into development is how you can screw things up, like duke nukem forever.

I am not gaslighting anyone, I'm trying to argue that calling this game a failure is just objectively wrong. If you don't like the comedy or the smut that's presently available, fine. But its disingenuous to say you've seen everything when you literally haven't yet.

 

[YeetBrowler]

It isn't really worn out m8. You don't introduce substantial changes to the system in the midst of development. Most of the feedback the game has been given won't be applied until the system changes. Doing things like part-way into development is how you can screw things up, like duke nukem forever.

"substantial changes" bruh what the fuck are you talking about lmao, the core gameplay is xcom and shmup. Addding a "berserk mode" and side scrolling shmup stages does not change the fundamental gameplay loop.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

"substantial changes" bruh what the fuck are you talking about lmao, the core gameplay is xcom and shmup. Addding a "berserk mode" and side scrolling shmup stages does not change the fundamental gameplay loop.

The leveling system is changing, so the current two bar system (and therefore all saves currently) would be broken
The dating system at the bar is changing (ties to the leveling changes as mentioned above)
The planets and random scenarios is changing (in response to the feedback about integrating pandora content into the story)

Like just because you aren't reading the dev blogs doesn't mean you can pretend as though they aren't telling us these things.

 

[YeetBrowler]

The leveling system is changing, so the current two bar system (and therefore all saves currently) would be broken
The dating system at the bar is changing (ties to the leveling changes as mentioned above)
The planets and random scenarios is changing (in response to the feedback about integrating pandora content into the story)

Like just because you aren't reading the dev blogs doesn't mean you can pretend as though they aren't telling us these things.

Like just because you don't know what a core gameplay loop is, it doesn't mean that these changes are that "substantial". Changing how leveling and "dating" work is not going to make the GAMEPLAY better. You cannot gaslight us and make us believe this shit. If it DOES change the CORE gameplay loop, I will personally eat my shoe.