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Mr. Weeaboo

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I unlocked the elf and the locker room menu but right now i dont have any alternative outfit. Are the Aviable only true levelling? Or can i buy them somewhere?
Right now there are just two outfits, the devotion quest reward and a level 40 look. More has been teased in past dev blogs and will be coming in the future.
 

smch1121

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I didn't even know there was more than 1 AI game I don't know where you get this AI thing from. I'm talking about the majority that are the same asset flip 3D models that look like a 2001 bootleg Shrek DVD made in a basement or Gmod fan animations from 10 years ago. Some are okay but most of them are uncanny and straight up nightmarish to me. If you think those models look better or the 4-frame stiff animations look better than the ones in Subverse I guess we have to agree to disagree. I like my shit properly animated, jiggly and looking polished. Same applies to the 2D stuff - half that shit looks like the artist JUST learned how to draw.

Studio FOW is a good animation studio that decided to shift effort into a porn game. I admit they obviously were disorganized and it's not exactly a mind-blowing game BUT my point is that for a first attempt, it's not bad and it's certainly better than most of the garbage out there. They actually put effort into making it look presentable too.

- The animations and 3D models are better than most games on here to the point where you have to compare them to solo Twitter/X animators. Unless you like that uncanny valley shit.

- It's grindy but even then it's properly made, not "click here then here to get money and oh! it's night time! click bed! now wake up and repeat!". You actually have to play the level to progress story, unlock the girl and the campaign levels are all noticeably different (like escaping the lasers for Fortune's quest) with proper models and animations for both the bullet hell and TBC sections.

- The writing is the same as most games on here. Some have better writing but a lot of those look like shit in the art department. Some also write 5000 pages filled with grammar mistakes and useless details to fake depth - that's just bloat.

Subverse either matches other NSFW games or does it better. Overall they made it look like they actually gave a shit about making a somewhat good product. Apart from STS or some of the Japanese games I don't see any that can match it as an overall package. If you know any please name them.

Also I'd rather have them make more but better so that the overall standard for porn games goes up - instead of just shitting on them. If my opinion is unpopular on a pirate porn forum then so be it - I'd prefer it honestly.
Subverse is as close as we can get to one of those top Twitter/X animators making a game and I'd rather encourage that than 20 years later and we're still jerking it to fuckin Gmod animations with shit writing and click based "minigames".
Other game dont have budget this big, I dont mind sex scene separate from gameplay but at least make a fully 3d model sex scene with free camera view option instead just a clip
 

PayneToTheMax

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Other game dont have budget this big, I dont mind sex scene separate from gameplay but at least make a fully 3d model sex scene with free camera view option instead just a clip
Oh, now you done it. You claimed developers aren't milking the shit out of people via patreon. Depending on which developer we talk about, they've actually eclipsed FOW's budget years ago.
 
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rexharbinger

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Devotion is still there, it open's up about half way through Act 1
They have changed the layout now though.

I will give you a screen shot of Devotion on version 1.0.0

I thinl it started after you get Killison, or maybe Lily.
Hmm didn't realise I had Demi in the 20's on devotion.

You can goto Devotion by the locker in the locker room, or by clicking on Squad on the right side bottem bar to the right of Hanger bay on the bottem bay, after it activates.

not long after that you will be able to fly the ship through the gates and around solar systems.
It opens up in stagers.
I am already in Act III. They just combined devotion and exp. If you look at the top right of your screenshots, you can even see they call it XP now.

And my other points still stand as well, except I did find that the gifts not giving devotion was a display bug instead. You open the squad menu, check the xp, go on a date with them, give them a gift, then exit the date and check your squad menu, the xp will NOT have gone up. BUT if you then go to another waifu page and then back, the XP updates and has gone up.

The next issue is that their personalized gifts give 300, and the random, non-specific gifts give 500. The official wiki hasn't been updated with any of the changes, as far as I can see. Maybe eventually...
 

Leo D. Marstone

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Also I'd rather have them make more but better so that the overall standard for porn games goes up - instead of just shitting on them. If my opinion is unpopular on a pirate porn forum then so be it - I'd prefer it honestly.
I would tend to agree with you to increase overall quality but not gonna lie I would prefer if the adult game industry stays in their own bubble.
Also many games are of high quality just alon here on F95. Lets be honest.

If the games production and recognition value becomes that big so that it finds its way into main stream its all over. xD
Chances are that many people in certain spaces would not be happy with it and start regulating it. Even more so than we have today.

On the other stuff you mentioned I agree. This game runs fine but is also grindy.(The age old complaint you read about every game)
The porn animations and models looking great but its all just in pandora. (Main complain to be honest)

The game would have been a top 10 porn games for me if it weren't for that fact, however they made it out to be an impossible challenge to integrate it in the story and it just overshadows the rest of fun I could have with the game. Not everything mind you but like half of the scenes. Give the player an incentive to give a shit about the story and to play the game. Create just a bit of a sense of immersion that this is a porn game and not just a game with cringe dialogue. Pandora is just not it. Plain and simple.

(Also let me add that Studio FOW were known for hardcore animations but in Subverse its almost stuff you could show your granny. Very tame.
Yes there are the mantics but it doesn't help that all the girls are ultra sluts and open to begin with.) Random thought I got while typing out.

I understand that many decisions have been made under the influence of being a business now and thats fine. They wanted to keep it safe but ultimately this was maybe what hold them back the most and you have now a very large group of people that are pissed for several reasons.
Also no. It's not just here on F95.

Dang it...I didn't want to post again xD The game won't change anymore even with possible DLCs.
 
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Kernist

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The key here will be if they will take the feedback and criticism to heart and act on it in future games.
Oh yeah, they take it to heart since the KS, that's why me and many others are perma banned on Steam discussions. Maybe they changed... no, wait, on the day of the 1.0 release they already cried to Steam to censor reviews and mark them as off-topic... again.
 

Washington404

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Anyone know how to cheat in more PP for the steam version? I tried using the save editor site but it doesn't load the edited save
 
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Kernist

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How many of them don't rely on DAZ or Honey Select assets, though? I think that's one of the things he was getting at. That we need more games of decent quality that are made from ground up and not totally build upon something else.
To have games of higher quality you need to put your money on the line, employ a lot of people what can be hit or miss, waste a lot of time for production and all of that for audience that isn't comfortable with spending money for porn or openly say they consider spending money on porn as stupid. Yes, Asia is different.

As I said years ago I was never interested in Studio FOWs work, their preferred fetishes never resonated with me. I backed them on KS because even if I wasn't interested in the game at all I thought they will open a gate for more ambitious western projects that will try to invest more into quality seeing the success of Subverse.

Studio FOW however betrayed us all, when they realized they can't control comments on KS they stopped updating there and moved to Steam and discord when they started massive banning. People who made the game a reality became their enemies. What was supposed to be a precursor to more advanced porn games became a PR and quality disaster that if anything will discourage others from attempting something like this again, all because of FOWs greed and ego.
 
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