Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.0] [Studio Fow]

[NBV]

There is nothing stopping them from lengthening the Pandora scroll bar and adding more boxes. Just because devotion maxes at 40 doesn't mean we can't have other ways to get more PP points, like through the current mini games. There are easy ways to remedy these non-issues that you're only GUESSING is the reason why we don't have new Pandora scenes.

I know you're ignoring me again, but I'm posting this for others to see.

 

[deiter69]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

 

[Deleted member 324588]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

The earliest girls only have a limited amount of scenes left to add, with 4 girls to recruit and several mantics to create. It is likely those remaining scenes feature later content. Not every scene is gonna warrant a retarget (which is not as simple as a copy/paste).

 

[zayn zidel]

Been waiting on GOG. Any news for when the update will drop?

 

[NBV]

Yeah I'm guessing, so are you. Neither of us has the answer, but I choose to think of it logically rather than just go and call the devs and lazy and the hours of content disappointing. Its a game first, the porn is gonna be second.

No, you chose to talk out of your ass as usual and act as though your guess is more than just what it is. The people you were replying to in the Discord never called anyone lazy, so what's your excuse for repeating the same nonsense in those situations? It doesn't matter how harsh, kind, or reasonable someone's opinions on the game is; you will always meet them with the same cult-like defense.

And assuming that is you, I gave you a perfectly logical explanation of why Ela's content drop has so many scenes. It was the first one post-launch, with a 7 month gap between release and that update.

Your response is not logical, because it's misinformed. More than 40% of those Pandora scenes in the Ela update and in previous one's have been simple model swaps. It does not take a whole day to swap Demi's model of her getting bukkake'd with Lily's for example. It is LITERALLY just swapping out the files, since Lily, Demi, and Kili have the same bone files. Their body types are extremely similar too, which means clipping is a non-issue. Even if clipping was, it would only require a limb slightly some pixels to avoid it.

This right here is the same exact pose and animation being used on both characters. It would only take 5 minutes to swap the model files and them everything applied to the new one.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Been waiting on GOG. Any news for when the update will drop?

That'll depend on GOG to review and approve at this point.

 

[echo32]

Dude you don't have to be a simp to understand how to pace yourself. DEMI has about 15 scenes remaining in her Pandora slot (assuming there is no extra pages they ain't showing us). Devotion has shown to max out at 40. Therefore, whatever is left to fill has to take up those remaining points. And there are still several more mantics to unlock, as well 4 as other ladies.

Is it that difficult to think 'maybe those scenes they haven't added yet are for things we don't have yet?'

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

 

[The.xx]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

I'm going to take a guess and say this is likely because Sova being a shortstack makes it harder for them to reuse the same animations with other characters.

They should have made one or two animations for them though, if that were the case. Not having anything new (except for Sova) after four and a half months sucks.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

There is nothing stopping them from lengthening the Pandora scroll bar and adding more boxes. Just because devotion maxes at 40 doesn't mean we can't have other ways to get more PP points, like through the current mini games. There are easy ways to remedy these non-issues that you're only GUESSING is the reason why we don't have new Pandora scenes.

I know you're ignoring me again, but I'm posting this for others to see.

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

 

[NBV]

The earliest girls only have a limited amount of scenes left to add, with 4 girls to recruit and several mantics to create. It is likely those remaining scenes feature later content. Not every scene is gonna warrant a retarget (which is not as simple as a copy/paste).

Vincent right now is looking at these 15 left over boxes, and through his own ignorance, thinks it's impossible for StudioFow to simply add more to these spaces. That is why he has this odd assumption that people asking why these girls didn't have more scenes this update. He really thinks it means StudioFow must be locked to these 15 slots and there's no way for them to go further than that.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

I certainly understand that hesitation. But unlike Star Citizen, Subverse didn't take in tons of additional funding which added a ton of feature creep problems. They also don't have a Patreon to pull in monthly income anymore like say Wild Life (which pulls in 5 digits on Patreon to this day, but still launched a Kickstarter...that failed). So their only profit comes from selling the game on Steam and GOG. Which is good motivation to actually finish the thing.

 

[NBV]

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

I'm not suggesting. I'm saying it's easy to do and doesn't require new coding. It's a literal copy + paste job or changing the number to add more. You don't know what you're talking about.

If you're exclusively referring to the devotion thing, why can't we just keep having them "level up" that doesn't give combat points but continue giving PP? The point is that you're acting as though this is some impossible to change task, when it's not. What's worse is that you won't even allow people to even talk about these things within Subverse's own discord. You quickly chime in to shut them down and act as though you know more.

EDIT: There are people even in the Discord who dislike you for this behavior. Those who still enjoy the game in high regards simply don't like how often you act like a know it all. You're not a mod anymore and they never paid you to endlessly defend them to begin with. It's one thing to have a debatable opinion or argument, and it's another to do it when your usually 100% wrong on these game dev things.

 

[NBV]

So anyway, I completed Ela's main quest content. I'll give a small review of it later. Here's a quick save for people. It has most/all of the part 1 Sova update's missions completed and only the main quest to unlock Sova completed for the part 2 update. The rest of the missions are left open for you all the play with. All the girls have either 99 or around 80 PP points. Everyone but Sova has all her scenes unlocked, but you can use the 99 PP points to unlock the rest yourself. The new Mantic is unlocked too.

 

[Dragon x Hunter]

I think we really should review the product as a whole, now that I think about it, every update comes with good and bad stuff, even I bought the freaking game because I have hopes for it on the long run.

 

[NBV]

I bought the game and stuck with it because I want to hope it can improve in the long run. It was a massive disappointment at launch and has made some improvements in some areas, and some... not so improved additions in others. There will always be unreasonable people making useless comments. There will always be the ass kissers that take everything dished at them with a smile. What tends to turn reasonable people sour is the latter group being the one's who the moderators constantly side with, which means even reasonable and informed discussion on these subjects can easily get shut down and ignored. Subverse's feedback first gets curated by their mods, so a lot of it heavily depends on how unbiased a mod is about something. It's not hard to see how that can put people on edge.

 

[Mighty1]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

 

[echo32]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

Nope, gotta wait till someone does. Can be any minute or months.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I'm not suggesting. I'm saying it's easy to do and doesn't require new coding. It's a literal copy + paste job or changing the number to add more. You don't know what you're talking about.

If you're exclusively referring to the devotion thing, why can't we just keep having them "level up" that doesn't give combat points but continue giving PP? The point is that you're acting as though this is some impossible to change task, when it's not. What's worse is that you won't even allow people to even talk about these things within Subverse's own discord. You quickly chime in to shut them down and act as though you know more.

EDIT: There are people even in the Discord who dislike you for this behavior. Those who still enjoy the game in high regards simply don't like how often you act like a know it all. You're not a mod anymore and they never paid you to endlessly defend them to begin with. It's one thing to have a debatable opinion or argument, and it's another to do it when your usually 100% wrong on these game dev things.

"There are people" has about as much weight as "I have been told by a friend of a friend". If I ever went too far with a member, the mods would've shut the convo down or given me a warning. Neither has occurred in a very long time.

It is not a copy/paste job. And until someone actually experienced in UE4 steps up and shows otherwise, that endless back and forth will stop. And from what I remember in this very forum, people weren't exactly kind to the repeated scenes. Now suddenly ya'll would rather have that than wait for them to come later.

I don't shut anything down, I present reasons why its unlikely. I'd gladly be wrong and it meant we got more scenes, but I'd rather not get people's hopes up and expect 100 scenes with only 40 devotion levels, guaranteeing there'd be scenes still locked in the end. FOW has stated in the past that if you do everything, you can unlock everything, which implies there's an exact amount needed to provide every gal up to 40 and get their devotion quest. Adding more scenes means adding more planets, more combat scenarios to provide the points to earn that further PP. Which is more work and more time than they have planned.

As I said before, what are you asking for is unlikely to occur now. I did not say it is impossible, it just isn't right now. Right now they need to focus on completing what they already penned from beginning to end.

 

[Grozar]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

 

[Cpt.SumTingWong]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

Maybe squid-girl