Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

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benisfug

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MrNewVegas2281 said:
That last claim, that it's "convenient" that every site is tainted.

You claimed the low rating on GOG is legitimate, but not only is there is no way to see just how many reviews there are on GOG's site, making it even worse than just being a small sample size, it's approaching being unfalsifiable, and there is no verification on reviews. I copy/pasted a review from here to GOG just to see, I don't own the game on that platform, and it let me post it with no issues whatsoever.

That rebuttal about F95 having more detailed reviews does not address the fact that it's a tiny sample size in compsarison. Quality data is good, and F95 is higher on quality because this site actually curates and enforces rules on reviews, but at a certain point, quantity wins out, when there is enough of it, the sheer sample size is enough to compensate for it's lower quality on average, and there is roughly 60 times as much data.
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I already talked about why I don't think GOG reviews are illegitimate and how Steam reviews are skewed due to the review bomb flagging system taking a chunk of legitimate reviews down. We're back at the same place, all roads end in negative reviews not mattering. Again very convenient for FOW.
 
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benisfug said:
The NTR thing was never a notable contributor to negative reviews and most of them don't mention it. Newer negative reviews echo most of the same complaints as older reviews. I know because we've had this exact conversation before. It ended with you telling me that no criticism is valid because A: it's subjective or B: it's early access, then you told me to stop posting.
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I don't know about any steam or gog reviews, but holy fuck was this thread bitching and moaning about NTR when the first EA version came out.
 
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MrNewVegas2281 said:
In defending GOG, you fail to refute the point that GOG lets anyone post reviews without any evidence that they have even played the game, let alone own a copy. How are the unverified reviews in fact legitimate, and not questionable at all?

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Edit: You yourself don't even accept the Chinese reviews, based on an argument that only some of those +3k reviews are legitimate, a claim you make without the same level of evidence because refuse to even point to how many of those +3k are legitimate reviews. Also, by the same merits you make for negative reviews you think are legitimate, you would need to concede there are also legitimate positive reviews as well in that review period that have been lost. There were over +1k positive reviews people made to counter the review bombs during that period as well that are not counted, but I don't see the same argument for any of the positive legitimate reviews that are buried in that haystack.
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We've already gone over GOG not verifying reviews and you already pointed out how they score verified owners and randoms separately. I don't dismiss unverified GOG reviews because they mostly repeat the same sentiments from other backers, backers were never offered GOG keys so if they wanted a GOG owner flag they would have to buy it twice, and because GOG was never subject to any review bombing there's very little reason for anyone who hasn't played the game to leave a review there.

I don't deny that the Steam review bomb happened and I don't deny that people made a positive review bomb to counter it. Under normal circumstances I would be fine with a review bomb getting nuked off the score. But the context of the review bomb being triggered by FOW doing something that was well known to cause them after a six month update drought(among other things) triggered normal negative reviews is important. I always believed they did it on purpose and this exact argument we're having right now over review legitimacy is why. Nobody, not even the Steam moderators, is going to go through +3k reviews one by one trying to guess which ones are real or not. And even if I did it wouldn't make any difference because you could come up with a million other reasons for why they don't count.
 
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MrNewVegas2281 said:
What's funny is you almost seem to be making an assumption that I will defend this game under any circumstance with that statement about me coming up with a million excuses to dismiss criticism, yet I've said myself that I regret buying this game, so clearly I am not here to defend the game from any and all criticism, I think there are plenty of faults that fall on the devs.

But then you end it with a conspiracy that FOW calculated and intentionally created backlash with the Chinese translation to cover up other legitimate criticism, thus you've fully entered a fantasy land. At this point you might as well argue the lack of evidence to support this conspiracy IS evidence that FOW has covered it up somehow.
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They sat around for months in near silence then as soon as a group of customers started leaving visible negative feedback complaining about FOW's behavior and failure to meet their own promises FOW decided to do a funny known to incite Chinese rage after Chinese review bombs had become a very well known occurrence on the platform due to things like the drama with the game Devotion. But you're right, the timing could have just been a coincidence.
 
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benisfug said:
They sat around for months in near silence then as soon as a group of customers started leaving visible negative feedback complaining about FOW's behavior and failure to meet their own promises FOW decided to do a funny known to incite Chinese rage after Chinese review bombs had become a very well known occurrence on the platform due to things like the drama with the game Devotion. But you're right, the timing could have just been a coincidence.
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so what did the negetive reviews said?

screw NTR haters, you got monsters and aliens, why the fuck wouldn't you use them? this studio was always known for this kind of thing.

my only complained really is that there isn't enough xxx content and what we do get are mostly short wips. this isn't the quality they are known for...
 
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KittyMaid said:
Coming from someone with pic of horny bug on a child's face :unsure:
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I said it's not common not that I don't like it.
Also wtf, that's the same girl in my signature, how the fuck is that a child lol.
Have you been outside to get a chance to see some actual children lately? They tend to not have thighs the size of a porkchop.
 
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HardcoreCuddler said:
I said it's not common not that I don't like it.
Also wtf, that's the same girl in my signature, how the fuck is that a child lol.
Have you been outside to get a chance to see some actual children lately? They tend to not have thighs the size of a porkchop.
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Still remains an ironic question, and she still has a child's face.
 
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