Master of Puppets

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Developer please, so far I haven't found a clear answer to the question in the 29 pages of the post:
Can I play a pure lesbian route yes or no? Do I have to get involved with some guy to unlock a scene with a girl or can I see ALL the scenes with girls without having to get involved with guys?
Please a simple answer: Yes or no?
Thanks!
So far it's possible to do completely lesbian. There are some points that she'll be harassed by men, but you can tell them to fuck off. I seriously doubt that this formula will change, the only real caveat I have is that the sub/domme counters are linked into this, telling the men to fuck off will give domme points, so a completely submissive lesbian route may not be possible.
 

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Really hope that there is just a pure Lesbian route, A hetrosexual guy that has been transformed into a women by just physical form and is still the same person in side? Then sorry... to me, why would this same person then automatically all of a sudden be sexually attracted to guys if he is straight? Transforming into a female form wouldn't change his mind set on whom he finds sexually attractive, unless he was bi/gay to start with, Makes zero sense to me why the mc would fuck guys unless i'm missing the point completely.
 

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mmh, the new public version is buggy in the way that the translations is sh..... . After loading the next scene the text just doubles - 'Don't you think you're rushing things a little, don't you think you're rushing things a little?' - and similar errors continue. Later there are Cyrillic characters instead of English language.
 

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So far it's possible to do completely lesbian. There are some points that she'll be harassed by men, but you can tell them to fuck off. I seriously doubt that this formula will change, the only real caveat I have is that the sub/domme counters are linked into this, telling the men to fuck off will give domme points, so a completely submissive lesbian route may not be possible.
You can also go on a route where you don't have a romantic relationship, or sex, with anyone. It's the one I'm following. But for now it only seems to include the generic (non-sexual) scenes that all routes share.
 

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.....Transforming into a female form wouldn't change his mind set on whom he finds sexually attractive, unless he was bi/gay to start with, Makes zero sense to me why the mc would fuck guys unless i'm missing the point completely.
Kind of wrong - it is not only a body transformation, the succubus includes psychological (and maybe magic) manipulation of the MC to optimize the amount of energy the succubus gets.
 
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Really hope that there is just a pure Lesbian route, A hetrosexual guy that has been transformed into a women by just physical form and is still the same person in side? Then sorry... to me, why would this same person then automatically all of a sudden be sexually attracted to guys if he is straight? Transforming into a female form wouldn't change his mind set on whom he finds sexually attractive, unless he was bi/gay to start with, Makes zero sense to me why the mc would fuck guys unless i'm missing the point completely.
What makes someone a woman or a man? Is it the body or the mind? Some would say the mind, the others would say the body. But if it really was only the mind, trans people would keep their original body.

And in real life you wouldn't get to meet a lot of lesbians (unless you live near an LGBT neighborhood), even less to score with one. So you might want to test with a man and become bi or "gay".

Though like someone said, there is magic involved in this story to make "him" attracted to guys (if the player want to).
 
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You can also go on a route where you don't have a romantic relationship, or sex, with anyone. It's the one I'm following. But for now it only seems to include the generic (non-sexual) scenes that all routes share.
I tried a save like that for a while, haven't bothered the last few updates though. I do wonder if there will be anything unique on that route, or if it's just there as a side-effect of being able to pick and choose which girls (or guys) you can get involved with. IIRC there was one pretty hot scene with her and a vibrator you could only get by passing up on sex with Avi, but that was all.
 

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I tried a save like that for a while, haven't bothered the last few updates though. I do wonder if there will be anything unique on that route, or if it's just there as a side-effect of being able to pick and choose which girls (or guys) you can get involved with. IIRC there was one pretty hot scene with her and a vibrator you could only get by passing up on sex with Avi, but that was all.
I don't know, the MC doesn't even have the dreams (I'm not sure what they are since I never saw them).

I hope that at some point this route will have something unique, since for now it feels that, more than a route, is the lack of them. In any case I haven't interest in following any other.
 

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I don't know, the MC doesn't even have the dreams (I'm not sure what they are since I never saw them).
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What do you mean with dreams - dreams like in sleeping and dreaming or like in fantasy how the future could be?
The first dreaming while sleeping : The MC is dreaming when aroused when going to bed only that the dreams are hijacked by the succubus realm.
The second dreaming about future doesn't happen, but that is normal for many in that age.
 

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Part of the fun to me with transformation games is the character slowly growing comfortable exploring themselves and coming to terms with their new bodies and potentially their new sexuality. I appreciate that the game gives good reason for its porn logic written characters, the idea that MC is magically more attractive helps you let go of the unrealistic circumstances to a degree. I think it would also be useful to state that MC is more sexually driven because of the succubus too, otherwise how quickly they accept male advances feels rushed. A dream sequence before your first male encounter of you as a female sleeping with a male could go a long way to promote MC questioning the idea and giving some legitimacy of him making that choice. That or in the first bar scene instead of having MC hit on a girl have a guy sitting there too and have the MC be bi and try hitting on both people and failing. That would take away any complaints about how quickly he changes teams.

I saw on the previous page people criticising turning down characters so I'll give my reasoning. When I play games like this I basically have two saves I follow at least. One being what I would be likely to do in MC's position. Two would be getting to see the story progress with the most sex in mind and enjoying those scenes disconnected from my real playthrough. I'll put spoilers for explaining my opinion on each character.

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They aren't very developed yet but as someone more interested in the girls presented so far I'm hoping Agnes and Ava are romantic choices in the future. Emily isn't half bad either, not my type as much as the other two though.

I think it's a mistake to negatively address people who don't choose to go completely slutty just because they're playing a porn game. If you give people options and have stats like control and corruption, some people are going to want to play on the more pure path. If that path is less interesting it's only because of the creator, because I can think of plenty of ways to make that fun. It's completely possible to have lots of sex and fun in a new body without delving into the bottom of the slutty barrel. Not to shame the slut path though, to each their own, that can be a lot of fun too. At the moment the more vanilla path cuts off important moments like the first dream that explains important info and lore which is a messy way to tell a story. That first dream encounter should be mandatory no matter your path, or at least hopefully that information missed gets to you in another form like Eva telling you in a future update.

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Overall I may seem critical but I think this shows promise, I'll definitely check out future installments one day.
 
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Don't tell me that i have to restart all again, when i load my save from last update the game crashes and send me back to main menu after a few images.
 

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I don't know, the MC doesn't even have the dreams (I'm not sure what they are since I never saw them).

I hope that at some point this route will have something unique, since for now it feels that, more than a route, is the lack of them. In any case I haven't interest in following any other.
The dreams are caused by having intense sex before bed, so unless there are some more hardcore scenes on the celibate path (like not getting any making her succubus side get out of control and having a particularly hardcore orgy of masturbation) you likely won't be seeing them. I really do suspect that 'lack of route' is right though.


Don't tell me that i have to restart all again, when i load my save from last update the game crashes and send me back to main menu after a few images.
Quite possible, the dev is doing something really weird with the way they make the game and it does cause problems if you don't save in just the right places. Don't ask me where those are, they seem to change every time.
 
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Developer please, so far I haven't found a clear answer to the question in the 29 pages of the post:
Can I play a pure lesbian route yes or no? Do I have to get involved with some guy to unlock a scene with a girl or can I see ALL the scenes with girls without having to get involved with guys?
Please a simple answer: Yes or no?
Thanks!
Yes you can play the lesbian route exclusively :)
 

YogSothoth1982

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What do you mean with dreams - dreams like in sleeping and dreaming or like in fantasy how the future could be?
The first dreaming while sleeping : The MC is dreaming when aroused when going to bed only that the dreams are hijacked by the succubus realm.
The second dreaming about future doesn't happen, but that is normal for many in that age.
Well, the truth is that I mean all kinds of dreams that appear in the game. I think, for other posts, that there are some related to the succubus and her realm, and I don't know if there are any other types of dreams in the game. As you might guess, without having seen them, I can't be very precise what kind of dreams I'm talking about.

I think it's a mistake to negatively address people who don't choose to go completely slutty just because they're playing a porn game. If you give people options and have stats like control and corruption, some people are going to want to play on the more pure path. If that path is less interesting it's only because of the creator, because I can think of plenty of ways to make that fun. It's completely possible to have lots of sex and fun in a new body without delving into the bottom of the slutty barrel. Not to shame the slut path though, to each their own, that can be a lot of fun too. At the moment the more vanilla path cuts off important moments like the first dream that explains important info and lore which is a messy way to tell a story. That first dream encounter should mandatory no matter your path, or at least hopefully that information missed gets to you in another form like Eva telling you in a future update.
Personally I'm following a path where I avoid all sexual interaction. This means that for now in my game I don't know anything about Avi's realm. Yes, you can go that route, but for now there's nothing interesting about it other than the actual act of going from doing what the succubus says.

The dreams are caused by having intense sex before bed, so unless there are some more hardcore scenes on the celibate path (like not getting any making her succubus side get out of control and having a particularly hardcore orgy of masturbation) you likely won't be seeing them. I really do suspect that 'lack of route' is right though.
Personally I'm not going to change my decision of how to play to see the dreams. But maybe some scene where the succubus talks to the MC to try to convince him/her (I don't know exactly how to say it) to change his/her attitude towards sex could result in something more entertaining seeing that she has a real interest in getting the MC provide her with food. It could further motivate the player to continue down this path, or even change her/his mind if the succubus is eloquent enough and her explanation is satisfactory.
 
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mmh, the new public version is buggy in the way that the translations is sh..... . After loading the next scene the text just doubles - 'Don't you think you're rushing things a little, don't you think you're rushing things a little?' - and similar errors continue. Later there are Cyrillic characters instead of English language.
What are you talking about? I haven't noticed anything like that.
Don't tell me that i have to restart all again, when i load my save from last update the game crashes and send me back to main menu after a few images.
If you have problems, try an older save, for example during a club party with Averia. This should help.
 

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Personally I'm following a path where I avoid all sexual interaction. This means that for now in my game I don't know anything about Avi's realm. Yes, you can go that route, but for now there's nothing interesting about it other than the actual act of going from doing what the succubus says.
I found it interesting, it answers some questions and establishes the story/world more. It's just an opening piece but my point was that it would be good for it to be in every possible route or it feels like the path you're on will be less complete story. It's entirely possible to fill in those points in some other way in the future and this game has plenty of time to do it. It's not like the game is unplayable if you don't see that scene though so to each their own.
 
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I found it interesting, it answers some questions and establishes the story/world more. It's just an opening piece but my point was that it would be good for it to be in every possible route or it feels like the path you're on will be less complete story. It's entirely possible to fill in those points in some other way in the future and this game has plenty of time to do it. It's not like the game is unplayable if you don't see that scene though so to each their own.
I want to be able to finish the game having avoided all the sex scenes. So, if to enter the other world, it's necessary to have unrestrained sex before going to bed, it's not likely that I will ever see that world.
 
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