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serpentcross

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Dec 8, 2017
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I have some criticism, I hope it's well received.

I find the changes to the game a bit tedious.
When it comes to hentai games there are 2 ways to go, you can make a very engaging game, or you can make a game that is merely a vehicle for Hentai.
There is absolutely no shame with going for the second one.
Making good gameplay is hard, making good gameplay in the frame of a classic JRPG is a big constriction that makes producing good gameplay even harder.
adding the pickaxe, the luberjack axe, one use spears for hunting, a progression of 2 hp per animal killed... all of it is very grindy.
I understand the impulse of trying to add more to put more in the game to make it more interesting but IMHO is not working.
Mind you, you should ask for more feedback, maybe I am the one out of touch and people enjoy it a lot but I really don't find it that engaging.
Honestly the system a few iterations ago where you spent points to unlock skills and buffs I felt was better. I felt like I had more control over the character, it felt like progression instead of being held back and felt like a way to go through the game in a more efficient way.
you have the luxury of not having to pitch to a CEO a game that has a engagement rate measured in hours of gameplay.
Just, reduce the grind. if you are attached to the food and harvesting mechanics that's ok but perhaps lower the price of the tols or raise the value of the loot (and maybe give the chest gold you can find in the intro to players who skip it without thaving to walk back.)
The campfire is good, frankly already the camp where you can sail back should have a bed to rest.
Just make it easier for people to go through the content and focus your game on the content. farming plants to buy a pickaxe worth 50 plants loot items is just not the fun part of the game.

Hope this is helpful and great job on everything else.
 

Zion of Olympus

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Apr 23, 2019
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I have some criticism, I hope it's well received.

I find the changes to the game a bit tedious.
When it comes to hentai games there are 2 ways to go, you can make a very engaging game, or you can make a game that is merely a vehicle for Hentai.
There is absolutely no shame with going for the second one.
Making good gameplay is hard, making good gameplay in the frame of a classic JRPG is a big constriction that makes producing good gameplay even harder.
adding the pickaxe, the luberjack axe, one use spears for hunting, a progression of 2 hp per animal killed... all of it is very grindy.
I understand the impulse of trying to add more to put more in the game to make it more interesting but IMHO is not working.
Mind you, you should ask for more feedback, maybe I am the one out of touch and people enjoy it a lot but I really don't find it that engaging.
Honestly the system a few iterations ago where you spent points to unlock skills and buffs I felt was better. I felt like I had more control over the character, it felt like progression instead of being held back and felt like a way to go through the game in a more efficient way.
you have the luxury of not having to pitch to a CEO a game that has a engagement rate measured in hours of gameplay.
Just, reduce the grind. if you are attached to the food and harvesting mechanics that's ok but perhaps lower the price of the tols or raise the value of the loot (and maybe give the chest gold you can find in the intro to players who skip it without thaving to walk back.)
The campfire is good, frankly already the camp where you can sail back should have a bed to rest.
Just make it easier for people to go through the content and focus your game on the content. farming plants to buy a pickaxe worth 50 plants loot items is just not the fun part of the game.

Hope this is helpful and great job on everything else.
-You are not obligated, it's no requirement at all, to do the side stuff. In fact, I play test the game with just the runes you find along the way. All grinding is optional and completely skippable.

-I like grinding. When I play games like dragon age origins, I love to feel overpowered after doing all side stuff. Which will happen here in SC too. Since I balance the game with just the runes and none of the other bonuses.

-I have a vision for this game. And adapting gameplay to the way of life is an awesome way to develop a game imo. Aeolos is a hunter, so he gains health by eating better. He hunts and fishes and sleep well to keep max performance.

-The old system was one hell to balance. Now, it does make sense that you are collecting more power towards runes, even to a lore view. You are a trained hunter, you are at the apex of your body, you trained your entire life. You won't get much better than that. What you can improve is your heath and your magical weapons/armor.

-The pickaxe at 50 is fair, imo. Because it gives you access to a lot of good stuff, such as stones you can sell and Flint Rocks. The game will become too easy at first if the pickaxe was cheaper. I love when, like Elder Scrolls for example, you start with nothing and by sheer will, you make something out of yourself in that world. People who are just looking for hentai will be disappointed, ofc
 

Dreamer44

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7- I'll be honest, this is impossible for a single developer like me. Even AAA companies struggle with choices, and they have many people and a lot of resources to work with. It gave me TONS of work to do the 3 paths for chapter 3. With your suggestion, I'll have to basically developing many games inside one.

Thanks for the review. I hope this helps you clear some questions :)
Sorry to interrupt, but there are three paths on chapter 3?
 

Porn_Jesus

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Zion of Olympus I'm glad you decided the player can get healthier and can have more mana by hunting/fishing. It's better than always staying at the same starting point (there would be a lack of progress feeling) but at the same time it's not the usual "kill everything until you have enough XP to lvl up" meta.

I don't mind a bit of ups and downs with the drawing style as long as it stays in acceptable limits. After watching DBS Episode 5 it's probably impossible to shock me with a bad day of drawing.^^'

I would be very pleased if you can release a new chapter every 3 - 4 months and keep that up. As you said... it will take maaaaany years of your life but you shouldn't be an old man when it's done. :D
 
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Zion of Olympus

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Zion of Olympus I'm glad you decided the player can get healthier and can have more mana by hunting/fishing. It's better than always staying at the same starting point (there would be a lack of progress feeling) but at the same time it's not the usual "kill everything until you have enough XP to lvl up" meta.

I don't mind a bit of ups and downs with the drawing style as long as it stays in acceptable limits. After watching DBS Episode 5 it's probably impossible to shock me with a bad day of drawing.^^'

I would be very pleased if you can release a new chapter every 3 - 4 months and keep that up. As you said... it will take maaaaany years of your life but you shouldn't be an old man when it's done. :D
Will do my best~
 

Tired Noir

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Dec 29, 2018
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Is there a gallery for the new ones? because i just rushed it thinking there was one in the dream and now am locked out from every new scene
 

Ge4ok

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Nov 28, 2019
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Guys, is there a way to band Iole or Aetessia (whatever) in this patch? Does the campfire choices affect their attitude towards you? And what is the quest for the Aetessia which is stated in the credits?
 

Kild

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Aug 18, 2019
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So not sure if a bug but I assume it has to be, also not sure if anyone else reported it
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Jooj Cena

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So not sure if a bug but I assume it has to be, also not sure if anyone else reported it
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Yeah, Iole carried damage to the fight here as well, but I easily dealt with the fight because I farmed the stat-ups from food/fish and dungeons/quests in the mc. That’s what I recommend you to do (or edit the files if you don’t want to put in the time).
 

IFortheGloryn

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Guys, is there a way to band Iole or Aetessia (whatever) in this patch? Does the campfire choices affect their attitude towards you? And what is the quest for the Aetessia which is stated in the credits?
to begin this quest you have to go to your hideout where you will find her just interact with her that will begin the quest
 

serpentcross

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Dec 8, 2017
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-You are not obligated, it's no requirement at all, to do the side stuff. In fact, I play test the game with just the runes you find along the way. All grinding is optional and completely skippable.

-I like grinding. When I play games like dragon age origins, I love to feel overpowered after doing all side stuff. Which will happen here in SC too. Since I balance the game with just the runes and none of the other bonuses.

-I have a vision for this game. And adapting gameplay to the way of life is an awesome way to develop a game imo. Aeolos is a hunter, so he gains health by eating better. He hunts and fishes and sleep well to keep max performance.

-The old system was one hell to balance. Now, it does make sense that you are collecting more power towards runes, even to a lore view. You are a trained hunter, you are at the apex of your body, you trained your entire life. You won't get much better than that. What you can improve is your heath and your magical weapons/armor.

-The pickaxe at 50 is fair, imo. Because it gives you access to a lot of good stuff, such as stones you can sell and Flint Rocks. The game will become too easy at first if the pickaxe was cheaper. I love when, like Elder Scrolls for example, you start with nothing and by sheer will, you make something out of yourself in that world. People who are just looking for hentai will be disappointed, ofc
That's perfectly fine. It's my 2 cents but it's your game and it's only fair you develop it the way you feel like.
And I seem to be in the minority so more power to you :)
 
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Zion of Olympus

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That's perfectly fine. It's my 2 cents but it's your game and it's only fair you develop it the way you feel like.
And I seem to be in the minority so more power to you :)
Thanks! I was just explaining why I made those decisions hahahahaha
 

Toknight

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May 2, 2020
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how can I defeat the last general , she keep silencing me. With three fire I almost kill her but then no chance at all.
 
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