RPGM Succubus Covenant Generation One: The Cursed Forest [Ch. 5] [Olympus]

[NinjaNamedBob]

You're right, Chapter 4 was excellent story wise. On the other hand at the level of the sex scene it is just the number which has decreased. These are things that happen when you work on several projects at the same time.

I would dispute that Ch 4 was a downgrade. I've never been a huge fan of Zion's writing (he tends to focus on things that could easily be referenced in cutscenes, his scene with Queen Domina adds nothing that we weren't already aware of and was more a clunky, awkward way to introduce the top 4 generals and the queen, that kind of stuff could get cut), but I honestly couldn't have been asked to pay attention to any of the dialogue outside the new waifu, and only because she gave those succubus vibes. I did pay attention to certain scenes, and... yeah. Zion's writing needed refinement, but there was narrative consistency in what he was trying to present.

Much of chapter 4 feels like a "get it done just to get it done" move. The maps are boring (moreso than previous maps), the waifu scenes, while a neat bonus, are way too plentiful and tend to rely on cliches more than character development. The stronk tsundere who can't cook trope for the tribal lady felt way too forced. Her mother never pushed her to learn how to cook? The fuck?

 

[Dreamer44]

ive done all that, i use the 100g heal items, got all the endgame items from the optional dungeons, hunted and fished everything ive seen, i use the spells and use them accordingly. Sometimes i even attack a weak enemy before a boss to load up a buff before the fight, its still pretty hard. Its not like I am not a completionist or bad at games, i guess my char stats are just super weak due to chapter 1 save

Yeah, old saves like that are troublesome after chapter 3's rework.

You either start over with a new save, ask someone to lend you a save with specific choices, or endure it. Seeing as next chapter is the last one for the first game, all options are valid.

 

[Dreamer44]

Hey, next chapter is coming out next April if nothing goes wrong.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

I don't get what you try to say.

Hey, next chapter is coming out next April if nothing goes wrong.

March or April, hard to tell. Especially if Zion has chapter 3 flashbacks and keeps adding stuff until you basically have two chapters.

 

[Deleted member 1816636]

You're right, Chapter 4 was excellent story wise. On the other hand at the level of the sex scene it is just the number which has decreased. These are things that happen when you work on several projects at the same time.

maybe ch5 succu are also in payment with ch4 but zion reduced ch4 sex scenes
ch4 only payment ch4 priority with lots of scenes but new characters develop also for ch5 cost more

 

[bigchungus12345678]

i feel like the art in chapter 4 was a downgrade from before. Is it a different artist?

 

[KrakenKiller]

Battle mechanics are terrible.

I've done every elven and demonic ruin up to the story.

Enemies follow the same pattern of attacks which makes it predictable and boring.

This requires you to just react to the pattern. No issue here, but blocking is worthless. Bad by design. By blocking you are just missing the chance to heal, and only worth it when you're hit with a paralysis attack.

You never heal just once. For some reason healing items on this game give just enough to cover the damage you recieve, so "healing" will consist of a phase of back to back healing.

RNG is a waste of time. You miss your attacks too often.

Has no one noticed how bad the fights are? I'm not underleveled yet I'm having to heal consecutively and the enemies are so ROBOTIC!

Every other game there is at least some randomisation to this. And no other game bogs you down with back to back healing. Most games will actually let you enjoy a fight. Enemies and player needs more HP. 80% of your actions are healing.

Iron will is also mandatory for every fight so that's another thing to watch for.

Aside from using iron will and healing, you are attacking maybe once every 4-5 turns of healing + iron will?

If you attack for more than 2 times in a row you are finished. Too much maintenance required in fights. What a bad design.

Decent story and h. But damn, had to be ruined with robotic enemies and healing. Imagine if someone misses out even one ruins buff. What a long-winded, drip fed game. I've been eating lots of roasted meat too.

 

[RavioMakin]

i feel like the art in chapter 4 was a downgrade from before. Is it a different artist?

Morning, yes it is

 

[RavioMakin]

Battle mechanics are terrible.

I've done every elven and demonic ruin up to the story.

Enemies follow the same pattern of attacks which makes it predictable and boring.

This requires you to just react to the pattern. No issue here, but blocking is worthless. Bad by design. By blocking you are just missing the chance to heal, and only worth it when you're hit with a paralysis attack.

You never heal just once. For some reason healing items on this game give just enough to cover the damage you recieve, so "healing" will consist of a phase of back to back healing.

RNG is a waste of time. You miss your attacks too often.

Has no one noticed how bad the fights are? I'm not underleveled yet I'm having to heal consecutively and the enemies are so ROBOTIC!

Every other game there is at least some randomisation to this. And no other game bogs you down with back to back healing. Most games will actually let you enjoy a fight. Enemies and player needs more HP. 80% of your actions are healing.

Iron will is also mandatory for every fight so that's another thing to watch for.

Aside from using iron will and healing, you are attacking maybe once every 4-5 turns of healing + iron will?

If you attack for more than 2 times in a row you are finished. Too much maintenance required in fights. What a bad design.

Decent story and h. But damn, had to be ruined with robotic enemies and healing. Imagine if someone misses out even one ruins buff. What a long-winded, drip fed game. I've been eating lots of roasted meat too.

Yeah... about that, let's say most of us are in for the H scene, i've dodged the entire grinding for xp part using a cheat rpg program.
Honestly the only h-game i've ever played (and i've played a lot of them) enjoying the fights was MGQ because each enemy had a peculiarity and some even had hidden scene when fought in a certain way but that's probably the best H game out there.
Rpg in general are boring because fighting is repetitive for grinding that exp, i mean, why should i fight with plant.jpg for the 40 th time and waste 3 min of my life when i can skip and go directly for the boss?
Anyway there are already problem with the entire project as it is, Zion having to change the entire battle mechanics and look for something at least decent is totally out of question, maybe just implement a one shot mechanics where if you use the right sequence of skills you can oneshot at least the plants in the forest would make it a lot smoother, for the big guys like Abalon guardians and construcs, there could be implemented an item that duble your strenght but you may take double damage, like a berserk mode, i mean the fighting need to be faster geez.

 

[Jxiller]

I don't understand why you are complaining. MGQ is a good H game except that it is an old rpg type where you face all the monsters that you meet and inability to move between cities and caves, for me I prefer simple combat and not Too long history. MGQ is different from the others since in the end you face a god and seek cohabitation with monsters which is what it is. However, in general the hero eliminated the King of the monsters to save the humans. Everyone has their preferences and Zion does their best for their fans so don't blame him as this is his first H Game and it is better than most H rpg games I have played.

 

[Porn_Jesus]

i feel like the art in chapter 4 was a downgrade from before. Is it a different artist?

Zion was forced to look for a new artist. It might take a while to get used to the new one. I will wait for one or two new chapters to decide if it's still worth my cash. Doesn't look bad but doesn't blow me away either right now but that's always a thing with art.^^

Yeah... about that, let's say most of us are in for the H scene, i've dodged the entire grinding for xp part using a cheat rpg program.
Honestly the only h-game i've ever played (and i've played a lot of them) enjoying the fights was MGQ because each enemy had a peculiarity and some even had hidden scene when fought in a certain way but that's probably the best H game out there.
Rpg in general are boring because fighting is repetitive for grinding that exp, i mean, why should i fight with plant.jpg for the 40 th time and waste 3 min of my life when i can skip and go directly for the boss?
Anyway there are already problem with the entire project as it is, Zion having to change the entire battle mechanics and look for something at least decent is totally out of question, maybe just implement a one shot mechanics where if you use the right sequence of skills you can oneshot at least the plants in the forest would make it a lot smoother, for the big guys like Abalon guardians and construcs, there could be implemented an item that duble your strenght but you may take double damage, like a berserk mode, i mean the fighting need to be faster geez.

So basically press one button, have something super easy and game is finished. That sounds very rich and well crafted. You don't have to fight every single enemy on the map screen and most of them die in one or two hits after a few attack runes.

 

[gusta]

nice game

 

[Deleted member 4015492]

is the wiki going to be updated

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

i feel like the art in chapter 4 was a downgrade from before. Is it a different artist?

It is. Their name is V, I believe.

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I mean, you can leave a review. That said, the discussion about the combat has been brought up several times, with Zion responding that he's still trying to figure out how to balance it. 4 years have passed, and he has yet to figure it out. Take that for what it's worth.

Yeah... about that, let's say most of us are in for the H scene, i've dodged the entire grinding for xp part using a cheat rpg program.
Honestly the only h-game i've ever played (and i've played a lot of them) enjoying the fights was MGQ because each enemy had a peculiarity and some even had hidden scene when fought in a certain way but that's probably the best H game out there.
Rpg in general are boring because fighting is repetitive for grinding that exp, i mean, why should i fight with plant.jpg for the 40 th time and waste 3 min of my life when i can skip and go directly for the boss?
Anyway there are already problem with the entire project as it is, Zion having to change the entire battle mechanics and look for something at least decent is totally out of question, maybe just implement a one shot mechanics where if you use the right sequence of skills you can oneshot at least the plants in the forest would make it a lot smoother, for the big guys like Abalon guardians and construcs, there could be implemented an item that duble your strenght but you may take double damage, like a berserk mode, i mean the fighting need to be faster geez.

Monster Girl Quest (the first trilogy) is a VN with combat mechanics. Monster Girl Dreams is a game in the same vein, except more focused around the combat rather than the narrative. You wouldn't be using a cheat engine for the original MGQ. Paradox, on the other hand, is a grind. I got bored after the first game and couldn't be paid enough to continue until part 3 drops (at the very baseline).

I don't understand why you are complaining. MGQ is a good H game except that it is an old rpg type where you face all the monsters that you meet and inability to move between cities and caves, for me I prefer simple combat and not Too long history. MGQ is different from the others since in the end you face a god and seek cohabitation with monsters which is what it is. However, in general the hero eliminated the King of the monsters to save the humans. Everyone has their preferences and Zion does their best for their fans so don't blame him as this is his first H Game and it is better than most H rpg games I have played.

MGQ is a VN (visual novel) with combat mechanics. You can't move around because of the inherent limitations of the VN engine. It's not an "old school rpg."

 

[Dreamer44]

i feel like the art in chapter 4 was a downgrade from before. Is it a different artist?

Kainkout had to leave due to health issues, and Devil-V is replacing him.

It's not a downgrade, but a different style altogether.

 

[Succubus Hunter]

For those mentioning MGQ, please be sure to use spoiler tags for the plot twists.

May Ilias's blessings be upon you for honoring the spoiler tag O

 

[BigTombolo]

The new artist is a mistery to me. While I'm not into the Cgs he has done for this chapter (except for the dancer and medea) I really hate how he made the effect for the energy drain. Why does it look like a discharge, I don't want the peepee to get electrocuted wtf. The green and blue effect from the previous chapters was perfect it looked magical (arcanist and druidic, both of them) Pls go back to the previous effect.

 

[DTu001]

I want save. Thank you!!!

 

[Zion of Olympus]

Battle mechanics are terrible.

I've done every elven and demonic ruin up to the story.

Enemies follow the same pattern of attacks which makes it predictable and boring.

This requires you to just react to the pattern. No issue here, but blocking is worthless. Bad by design. By blocking you are just missing the chance to heal, and only worth it when you're hit with a paralysis attack.

You never heal just once. For some reason healing items on this game give just enough to cover the damage you recieve, so "healing" will consist of a phase of back to back healing.

RNG is a waste of time. You miss your attacks too often.

Has no one noticed how bad the fights are? I'm not underleveled yet I'm having to heal consecutively and the enemies are so ROBOTIC!

Every other game there is at least some randomisation to this. And no other game bogs you down with back to back healing. Most games will actually let you enjoy a fight. Enemies and player needs more HP. 80% of your actions are healing.

Iron will is also mandatory for every fight so that's another thing to watch for.

Aside from using iron will and healing, you are attacking maybe once every 4-5 turns of healing + iron will?

If you attack for more than 2 times in a row you are finished. Too much maintenance required in fights. What a bad design.

Decent story and h. But damn, had to be ruined with robotic enemies and healing. Imagine if someone misses out even one ruins buff. What a long-winded, drip fed game. I've been eating lots of roasted meat too.

-Blocking is available in every RPG Maker out there. I really don't understand people complaining about something that in inbuild into the engine itself. Every single RPG Maker game has this option.

-Every succubus has different parameters. You must be using an old save, before the complete overhaul of the full chapter 3.

-You are really using an old save, there is no RNG as I removed it from the full chapter 3 forward.

-If you need to heal constantly this means you are not buying new healing items that recover your HP up to 75%. But then again you are using an old save that will cause issues.

-Overhaul, you played an old version of the game or used an old save, because people are complaining that I made it possible for them to become overpowered to the point of two shot a succubus.

 

[Zion of Olympus]

ive done all that, i use the 100g heal items, got all the endgame items from the optional dungeons, hunted and fished everything ive seen, i use the spells and use them accordingly. Sometimes i even attack a weak enemy before a boss to load up a buff before the fight, its still pretty hard. Its not like I am not a completionist or bad at games, i guess my char stats are just super weak due to chapter 1 save

Bruh... you just clarified everything. You are using an old save. Chapter 3 had a complete overhaul of everything.