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Dreamer44

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After leaving the village to train for the first time as kids, I can't save anymore, even at campfires and when the game asks, the "save" button is greyed out and just makes an "invalid/error" sound when I click it. All I can do is load and delete saves, but when I try to delete a save it doesn't even delete it, it just gives me an error code and tells me to press f8 to see more info, but that doesn't do anything either. Anyone else have this problem? Edit: Nvm, it did delete it Edit, again: I was able to start saving at Chapter 1, weird
It's a bug that will be corrected in the next chapter.

Has happened to others too.
 

bwardyunbip

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Thank you for speaking human and not insulting me, I don't fully agree with that tho. The thing I've "complained" about is that the game has gotten substantially worse in quality (Even though the game has more budget & fanbase than ever!), that's not even much of a complaint it's a literal fact us "filthy animals who dont pay" and you godly patreons can should accept. So basically Subnero replied to me helping & telling that new guy about this fact saying I'm bitching? It's not a complaint, it's the harsh truth.
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Anyways I wanna highlight on this thing: My or anyone else's criticism isn't less valid because of not paying. We're all humans with different incomes & reasons for not paying. I could throw a 5$ to Zion right now and all of a sudden all of my critique is suddenly amazing & the game will get better? The criticism is the exact same word for word if I paid or not. The reason free to play people talk here is because they love the game so much so that they're willing to spend hours writing in depth reviews, critique and help others. Not because they hate it lol. Overall I understand pirating is bad but once I get my shit together I'll be sure to support.

Also Zion DOES interact with this pirating platform/forum more than anyone, he reads & like reviews too. So the f95zone's complaints aren't completely irrelevant & unheard of. f95 is probably also the biggest source of fans/income for this game. However he loves to ignore all the critisism that points out flaws which is a problem when trying to make a good game.
i agree that succubi should have the same amount of artwork as before. a valid civil critique is a different thing than mere bitching.
 

anterogi

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Something I feel being left out of this discussion here (if you can even call this a discussion) is that the chapter came out in 4 months instead of the usual 6-12 months. I think zion has made some really good decisions from a production stand point. If you look at the first couple of chapters Kain spent a lot of time creating assets that weren't of succubi, things like all the other hunters, the intro characters, etc. I'm really glad that these pictures are now being made by a secondary artist while the main one is focused drawing sexy demons. Which to me is the core appeal of these games. I'm also fine that close up shots have been cut because they weren't really doing much for me, and that time can be used on addition scenes or just getting the chapter out faster.
 

PaYrO212

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Is this game gonna have 5 chapters until you defeat the duchess of the leaf clan or it will continue eventually with a chapter 6 in other place?
 

Zion of Olympus

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i don't think adding 5 pic could slow down an entire update more than 1 week but whatever let's cut even more stuff i guess
And I don't think you understand that V doesn't work just for SC, although he prioritizes it, he has tons of commission and his own personal life.

It would be a delay between 1 to 2 months at least, because he had "slots" open every month. So a side image would take the same slot as one of the main images.
 

Mr.Gamer

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Considering it takes V about 5 days to make 1 full pic, it would slow it down for about a month(more actually since it would be adding more like 7-8 pics) and considering Zions patreons aren't interested in that and would rather more important succubi get more pics, that's whats gonna be the ultimate deciding factor, not some randos bitching about it on a pirate website.
Well, he could include another montage from a guest artist as an Patreon reward for reaching a certain goal.

Of course, that'll slow things down for quite a while if it became the norm.
 

anterogi

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i don't think adding 5 pic could slow down an entire update more than 1 week but whatever let's cut even more stuff i guess
I'm not sure how long it takes to produce an image but I'm sure it takes longer than a day. Cutting things that don't really add much value is a win in my eyes. Do you really feel images like Black Rose 11.png G1 A7.png were worth the twice as long development time?
 

RavioMakin

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The thing is ch 1/2 took more than a year because there was animations/voice acting/overboard pics/more detailed pics (Kain art), also ch 3 took more than a year.
Now ch 4 took 7 months to make, the price for the time gained is no animation/no voice acting/cut in the pics/and also less details into those pics (until now all the succubi were all different in some way, in ch4 there is this "rainbow theme" with 3 of the forest succubi, a reaccurring visive theme is not going to make them special in any way out of their personality) , also in these 7 months Zion was developing Warlock saga and the new comic, can we just all agree the focus in this game have been lost for a more efficient work schedule?
Becase at the end of the day the Patreons will keep exponentially increase no metter what SC changes goes throught they are getting more update and more stuff than before...
 
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bwardyunbip

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And I don't think you understand that V doesn't work just for SC, although he prioritizes it, he has tons of commission and his own personal life.

It would be a delay between 1 to 2 months at least, because he had "slots" open every month. So a side image would take the same slot as one of the main images.
i just became a void succubus patron.
:D

will there be a voice actress for h scenes?
 
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Dreamer44

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The thing is ch 1/2 took more than a year because there was animations/voice acting/overboard pics/more detailed pics (Kain art), also ch 3 took more than a year.
Now ch 4 took 7 months to make, the price for the time gained is no animation/no voice acting/cut in the pics/and also less details into those pics (until now all the succubi were all different in some way, in ch4 there is this "rainbow theme" with 3 of the forest succubi, a reaccurring visive theme is not going to make them special in any way out of their personality) , also in these 7 months Zion was developing Warlock saga and the new comic, can we just all agree the focus in this game have been lost for a more efficient work schedule?
Becase at the end of the day the Patreons will keep exponentially increase no metter what SC changes goes throught they are getting more update and more stuff than before...
Chapter four took 4 months to make; chapter three came out in July.
 
3.50 star(s) 104 Votes