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Zion of Olympus

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I'm literally asking to read about the games update cycle. 90% of these games get abandoned or mismanaged and devs just milk patreon cash flows. I'm not going to just give someone my money for something that is likely to go tits up. I'll only buy a game after it's actually released. Now we have three different games going. Warlock Saga, Succubus Covenant, and EC. So that means we have to wait even longer for updates. I'm simply not going to give my money away for free with no return value besides "Hey guys no update this month"

I'm not asking him to work for free, actually release a game and I'll buy it. A timeline update isn't a big ask. If you want to give money away then good for you.
People that don't want to support the development of a game, that is essential for any indie dev to come out with a quality game (can't invest in good art, paying good artists, without money), can support us on steam and other digital platforms after the full release.
 

Porn_Jesus

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If V recovers stop making eden chest for main game or develop both games.
You should pay more attention. SC will continue when EC is finished and V has recovered. Plus EC won't have more content once it's finished. It was a side project for the patrons to have something else to play and for Zion to not sleep so much. :D
 
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Zion of Olympus

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If V recovers stop making eden chest for main game or develop both games.
When V recovers, I want him to pass me by a lot.

By the time I start working on the second game, I want him to be finishing the art for it, if not being working on the third game already. He was finishing the second chapter of the second game before his hand injury.

I don't want to ever again start working with unfinished art and have to stop like this. It completely destroys my will to develop anything. I don't even know where I left things and have to relearn everything.

My hope is, by the time I finish Eden Crest, V will be already working on the second game again. And by the time I finish the first game, I hope he's finishing the second game art or be starting the third already.
 

Brokai

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Looks like you don't even know why there are two other games beside SC. Maybe you should figure that one out first before you start a ruckus.

Oh and keep your cash. I enjoy that way more than you holding a speech about how bad the situation is with indie devs. It's old news. Just saying in case you are new to the internet. :Kappa:
Oh man he hit me with the Kappa emote twice now. You're not some hyper clever keyboard warrior. This is literally a porn game pirate site. Also maybe you should stop playing kiss ass with the dev :Kappa:
 
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ZAIK0

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I wonder what Devil V did as an injury, seeing as he's been on a break for a few months for his hand, hope he gets better soon, having 3 games to finish I think many would have given up on their plans then kudos to you Zion, kainkout and devil V :giggle:
 

Porn_Jesus

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Oh man he hit me with the Kappa emote twice now. You're not some hyper clever keyboard warrior. This is literally a porn game pirate site. Also maybe you should stop playing kiss ass with the dev :Kappa:
I couldn't bother to go full kissy with you due to various reasons. Surely you can understand that the moment you find a mirror. :Kappa:

Oh and chill a bit and pay attention. Helps with understanding why the situation is as it is.
 

Zion of Olympus

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Jesus Christ imagine making a 3 hour long intro for a porn game
If you are looking just for another thing to fap to, you better look elsewhere. This will be a huge disappointment for you as it is heavily story based with hentai scenes of as second plan.

Basically an adventure/rpg game that just happen to have hentai.
 

Cologar

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If you are looking just for another thing to fap to, you better look elsewhere. This will be a huge disappointment for you as it is heavily story based with hentai scenes of as second plan.

Basically an adventure/rpg game that just happen to have hentai.
I enjoy the story, the worldbuilding and the succubi factions. The h-scenes may be secondary, but to me they're pretty high quality, those *slurp* delicious curves XD
 

Dolfa

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If you are looking just for another thing to fap to, you better look elsewhere. This will be a huge disappointment for you as it is heavily story based with hentai scenes of as second plan.

Basically an adventure/rpg game that just happen to have hentai.
I'm fapping to this, and I aint stopping, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
A heavily story based fap is the best fap anyways :sneaky:
 

LazerShark

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Here's something I don't get. If Devil-V got injured, why not fire him and replace him with a better artist who is willing to keep working even if he's injured? At the end of the day, even if you can take a break from the project and it's an effective strategy to milk patreons, having no progress whatsoever is still detrimental to your growth. The answer is slow progress and dripfeeding content. To keep your subscribers happy, the idea is to let them know you are still working on the game despite the delays. That's how you maximize profits. But when you wait for Devil-V to heal, you are telling the fans that it will be pointless to be waiting for the next update for a while and you are telling the newcomers that it's not worth it to back this project, at least not for now. In turn, you miss a lot of potential profits. You know, you have been developing this game for more than 3 years, so you should start to get on with the grindset.
 

Zelig13

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Here's something I don't get. If Devil-V got injured, why not fire him and replace him with a better artist who is willing to keep working even if he's injured? At the end of the day, even if you can take a break from the project and it's an effective strategy to milk patreons, having no progress whatsoever is still detrimental to your growth. The answer is slow progress and dripfeeding content. To keep your subscribers happy, the idea is to let them know you are still working on the game despite the delays. That's how you maximize profits. But when you wait for Devil-V to heal, you are telling the fans that it will be pointless to be waiting for the next update for a while and you are telling the newcomers that it's not worth it to back this project, at least not for now. In turn, you miss a lot of potential profits. You know, you have been developing this game for more than 3 years, so you should start to get on with the grindset.
Telling an artist to continue drawing with his hand injured is like telling a football player to continue playing with a broken leg, apart from that people like consistency, they like the art to be the same, you can't change the artist every time.

Zion continues delivering games and writing and even a comic series, I also want to play the main series, but luck is not on our side now, so we just have to be patience.

Anyway, I agree with you that the first game should be done for now, I hope Devil-V a recovers soon.
 

LazerShark

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Telling an artist to continue drawing with his hand injured is like telling a football player to continue playing with a broken leg, apart from that people like consistency, they like the art to be the same, you can't change the artist every time.
I'm just saying. If a worker is not producing enough because of injury or other personal problems, it should be replaced by a more efficient worker. Zion is lucky he doesn't have to deal with dumb regulations regarding this. If the people don't like the quality of the product, then the people can search for other products of similar properties which there are none, and in any case, the profit comes above what the customer wants. I don't know why I have to explain this to you, this is capitalism 101, an important part of the sigma male grindset.
 
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