Karnewarrior
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Bro, don't even bother. These guys don't care about you, they just want to complain about not being spoonfed max effort content for minimal cost.
RPGM Succum Brewery [v0.4.3] [LimeJuiceGames]
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kopiluwak
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I dare you to try and say anything dumber than that, asking out of morbid curiosity.
Make a game !!
Go fund it yourself where as whining like a puppy
shundi82
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So far no one has complained about not being spoon-fed max effort, afaik.
One guy said, he'd like to make a one time purchase, but since it's not possible, he'd have to resort to pirating.
Some of us replied to that and talked about the general nature of porn games, porn devs and payments.
And the payment talk led to someone stating, that monthly donations often don't translate to max output (which, frankly, often is the case, even in non-porn projects - but we can all clearly see it in a lot of porn projects, since that's what f95 is all about).
But again, more general talk - as can be found in many other threads.
And LimeJuiceGames seems to be pretty reasonable and collected and will take from this discussion what they deem to be helpful (see their recent reply).
They're one of the few devs, that don't need to be treated with kid gloves.
So even though they'll surely appreciate your pep talk, they seem to be able to handle all of this by themselves, easily.
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I'd honestly put the general progress of the game as average when we look at porn games as a whole. It took 2 years to reach the first sex scene but there's a good chunk of content to read before that; barring some sudden engine change or something I'd say it's too soon to accuse Lime of Patreon milking. When we look at other games progress (even Japanese ones) Succum general advancement isn't egregious or amazing.
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lamba
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One particular person is complaining that there's a brief delay between the current build being released to backers and it being posted here.
shundi82
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"Spoon-fed max effort" != "instant f95 release"
The "spoon-fed max effort" was Karnewarrior's reaction to kopiluwak's post, who said, that most devs don't seem to put in 100% effort when receiving monthly donations. At least, that's how I read it.
And in a later post it was made clear, that that was a general statement and not aimed at Lime and they'd be OK with Lime receiving as many donations as there were people willing to pay (mind you, it was a tad exaggerated/sardonic, imho, but it didn't feel mean spirited towards Lime).
So, it was just a little chat about the general state of affairs between some fellow pervs, that seems to have come across as less general to some other members. No harm done. We all seem to like Lime and seem to be OK with the pace of development. It's just in the details, that some folks would like to see things change/improve - and I feel like that's reasonable and exactly the reason we have threads like this going - at least I enjoy those convos way more than the umpteenth request for a full save and the question of "is pregnancy in this a mechanic or game over only?"
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lamba
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I was talking about this post, a few pages back-"Spoon-fed max effort" != "instant f95 release"
The "spoon-fed max effort" was Karnewarrior's reaction to kopiluwak's post, who said, that most devs don't seem to put in 100% effort when receiving monthly donations. At least, that's how I read it.
And in a later post it was made clear, that that was a general statement and not aimed at Lime and they'd be OK with Lime receiving as many donations as there were people willing to pay (mind you, it was a tad exaggerated/sardonic, imho, but it didn't feel mean spirited towards Lime).
So, it was just a little chat about the general state of affairs between some fellow pervs, that seems to have come across as less general to some other members. No harm done. We all seem to like Lime and seem to be OK with the pace of development. It's just in the details, that some folks would like to see things change/improve - and I feel like that's reasonable and exactly the reason we have threads like this going - at least I enjoy those convos way more than the umpteenth request for a full save and the question of "is pregnancy in this a mechanic or game over only?"
Kopiluwak was upset they have to wait two weeks to get the current build because they're not financially contributing to the development of the game.
In situations where the developer provides the current build for free, with a short delay, while paying contributors get early access, you don't have much room to complain and begging for a pirated copy of that free build you'd get in two weeks anyways is a bit much. Especially when you call piracy beneficial in an industry where most games are lucky to break even.
I'm not going to give you grief for pirating- especially when we're talking about AAA industry titans- but trying to excuse begging for a pirated copy of a game that you'll get for free anyways in two weeks is wild.
kopiluwak
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that's just your presumptions, you know nothing about who I am and what I do (or even my mood when i'm typing theses messages lol), dev didn't always delay releases, it came later.
You take your stance as if you were someone we have to listen to, when you can't even understand the very post you're quoting, even though it's 4 simple points, all state of indisputable facts (but don't worry you're not the only one that can't fucking read simple, properly phrased sentences)
as a final point I'd like to add that peoples are not funding this project (or any projects for that matter) out of kindness or because they just felt like it, peoples fund project to increase the production value, that's litteraly the sole purpose of fundings, however I hate to say but production value didn't increase with fundings, updates got smaller and time in between spread wider.
now you can deny reality all you want, I'm not addressing you, so you can go back hunting for big-foot and say the earth is flat. all I hope is that Lime (who is a dev that I like) doesn't stay in a posture that look an aweful lot like complacency.
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shundi82
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Ah, OK, now I know what you meant.
To me it's still OK to ask for immediate access as per the nature of f95.
But I personally have held back sharing new versions/pointing towards new versions at release, because as kopiluwak pointed out in his last reply to your post, we like Lime and want them to succeed in their endeavor.
If kopiluwak reads this:
You're right, no one's the boss of anyone around here - well, except for the admins, I guess.
But lamba also just stated their opinion. No harm done.
Re possible slowing down of development:
I can only talk from the perspective of a backend dev (full-stack / game devs have even more shit to consider):
The first sprint usually is the fastest and you get some pretty respectable results.
But once you get to more complex and/or special tasks, the more cracks will usually show up.
And even the fixes you might've already implemented along the way will prove to not be able to cope with every possible shit, that gets thrown at it at some point.
So you might have to make the decision to scratch whole parts of your code and rework and maybe even retool. And boy, all your nice goal posts go out of the window - and management is pissed (or customers, if you're self employed).
A lot of (game or hobby) devs seem to not be able to push past this point once they reach it - because it's not only slowing everything down, it'll also drain a lot of the fun out of the coding/writing.
Same happens again after ~90%. You've got a nice fundament, all the general stuff is chugging along nicely - but there are some weird corner cases, that you just can't seem to iron out. That's when most shit just gets released anyway (if you're lucky it'll be marked as "beta") and then the bugs get fixed by severity/demand over the next weeks and months - if even that.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to jack off to Succum Brewery.
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123123123gigel
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i went to college so i could jork my peanits mind you
It would be great if timings were added to the changelogs to understand when each patch came out and how much we managed to miss ))
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here is my unofficial Android port of Succum Brewery v0.3.4.
minimum system requirements: Android 8.0
you can import save files by the dev when starting a new game and no others are present.
be advised, save slots 1-10 are now reserved as 'Autosave' slots. copied save files in these slots will be overwritten when the autosave feature is enabled (the default state).
if you want to import PC save files manually, never ever use an index file (
instead, save your game to the desired slot and overwrite the created save file (e.g.
have fun and please report problems (you can reach me
updated: 12.08.2024 (changed the autosave plugin for another, modified one)
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you can import save files by the dev when starting a new game and no others are present.
be advised, save slots 1-10 are now reserved as 'Autosave' slots. copied save files in these slots will be overwritten when the autosave feature is enabled (the default state).
if you want to import PC save files manually, never ever use an index file (
global.rpgsave) created by the PC release.instead, save your game to the desired slot and overwrite the created save file (e.g.
file66.rpgsave) with your PC save file.have fun and please report problems (you can reach me
You must be registered to see the links
).updated: 12.08.2024 (changed the autosave plugin for another, modified one)
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