RPGM Succum Brewery [v0.4.4] [LimeJuiceGames]

[Karnewarrior]

and this is not some "artistic project"

It literally, objectively is that though. Video Games are art.

mayhaps but ive seen it done in less amount of time. neither is using AI or pre-baked assets inherently bad, given you do it right. though once again i know little of the dev process and thus wont judge further :^)

For your reference, sir:
Baldur's Gate 3: 6 years
Halo: Combat Evolved: 4 years
Civilization 6: 6 years
The Elder Scrolls 6: 6 years and counting
Team Fortress 2: 9 years

While it has been done faster - Minecraft took 2 years from initial build to release, although I suspect you'd struggle to find someone willing to play that ancient version - I don't think it's a logical or rational decision to hold Lime Juice Games to higher standards than Bungie, Firaxis, Bethesda, and Valve hold their teams to. Lime has a staff of like 3 people and a dog, versus the hundreds of people on AAA release teams, and they've yet to break track with those 100 man teams.

I would say that's at the very least adequate, wouldn't you agree?

 

[kopiluwak]

It literally, objectively is that though. Video Games are art.

Video games are not art, you can consider that they have artistic qualities, but video games are literally, objectively entertainment, the same way chess isn't art, it's entertainment, though you can have a very nice chess board.

This, a fortiori, is a piece of pornographic entertainment made on RPG maker, and is exhaustively completed in less than an hour whilst being in development for almost 3 years.

peoples are allowed to have different opinion.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Films are not art, you can consider that they have artistic qualities, but Films are literally, objectively entertainment

ftfy?

 

[LimeJuiceGames]

 

[Yeppers34]

Video games are not art, you can consider that they have artistic qualities, but video games are literally, objectively entertainment, the same way chess isn't art, it's entertainment, though you can have a very nice chess board.

This, a fortiori, is a piece of pornographic entertainment made on RPG maker, and is exhaustively completed in less than an hour whilst being in development for almost 3 years.

peoples are allowed to have different opinion.

I mean if we live in a world wear a wooden chair can be bedazzled and be called art then we can consider movies and even a porn game a form of art

 

[anordinary_guy]

For your reference, sir:
Baldur's Gate 3: 6 years
Halo: Combat Evolved: 4 years
Civilization 6: 6 years
The Elder Scrolls 6: 6 years and counting
Team Fortress 2: 9 years

While it has been done faster - Minecraft took 2 years from initial build to release, although I suspect you'd struggle to find someone willing to play that ancient version - I don't think it's a logical or rational decision to hold Lime Juice Games to higher standards than Bungie, Firaxis, Bethesda, and Valve hold their teams to. Lime has a staff of like 3 people and a dog, versus the hundreds of people on AAA release teams, and they've yet to break track with those 100 man teams.

I would say that's at the very least adequate, wouldn't you agree?

not to discredit RPGM game creators but to compare a project like this to the likes of Halo and TF2 and TES etc is out of touch

 

[kopiluwak]

I have no argument so I answer like fatherless child.

you already took more than your worth of my time, and here you are proving (again) that you talk about things that are outside the scope of your understanding: I'll make it short and simple, so even you can get it.

> Not all movies are art, not all photography either, what matter is the intent.
> you calling this art doesn't make it art, It's just vanity.
> there are artistic aspect in the game, such as the writing, it's not the whole game though, walking around in rpgmk isn't artistic performance, and you jerking off to 2d tits isn't artistic expression.

this is as far as I'm willing to entertain this morbid conversation with peoples so hysterically petty that they can't fathom the prospect of anyone being even remotely critical of anything that they like, as if it was a personal offence.

 

[lamba]

It literally, objectively is that though. Video Games are art.

It'd be inaccurate to call video games art but to claim they're fundamentally not is also wrong.

Much like photography and movies, video games shouldn't be compared to the classical disciplines for obvious reasons.

 

[DickCheese420]

Version 0.4.2

You must be registered to see the links

You must be registered to see the links

You must be registered to see the links

Updated May's standing art.
May has an outfit change.
Three teasing style scenes for May working at the bar.
A 3rd pose for all of Catherine's waitress poses in the bartending game (26 more poses).
Updated Catherine's skin tone to be warmer for ALL bartending poses.

 

[the66]

here is my unofficial Android port of Succum Brewery v0.4.2.

• You must be registered to see the links

Spoiler: touch screen usage

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

minimum system requirements: Android 8.0

you can import save files by the dev when starting a new game and no others are present.
be advised, save slots 1-10 are now reserved as 'Autosave' slots. copied save files in these slots will be overwritten when the autosave feature is enabled (the default state).
if you want to import PC save files manually, never ever use an index file (global.rpgsave) created by the PC release.
instead, save your game to the desired slot and overwrite the created save file (e.g. file66.rpgsave) with your PC save file.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me

You must be registered to see the links

).

 

[droglob]

Head-to-tail you can expect a game to take anywhere from 4 to 8 years to be made when it is not relying on pre-baked assets or AI slop.

Are you fucking serious? So we are just straight up trying to normalize blatant scam time frames now huh?

You see this game? It was made in 2 years and the motherfucker already has a sequel in development with more work and content put in than most if not all 6 year long running scams, and he does not outsource any of it. Actual, top tier work too, not slop.
This is what a productive, non full-time, development cycle looks like from a person who makes porn games as opposed to a person who uses porn games to scam.

8 years to make a fucking bog standard porn game? What are you doing? Learning to program and then building the game engine from scratch? Get the hell out of here.

 

[That other person]

Are you fucking serious? So we are just straight up trying to normalize blatant scam time frames now huh?

You see this game? It was made in 2 years and the motherfucker already has a sequel in development with more work and content put in than most if not all 6 year long running scams, and he does not outsource any of it. Actual, top tier work too, not slop.
This is what a productive, non full-time, development cycle looks like from a person who makes porn games as opposed to a person who uses porn games to scam.

8 years to make a fucking bog standard porn game? What are you doing? Learning to program and then building the game engine from scratch? Get the hell out of here.

Honestly... I like Succumb Brewery more than that game. I liked the artstyle before, and I like the artstyle now. Gameplay is simple, and I do enjoy some good old fashioned perversions in tending the bar.

You got to keep in mind not everyone has the same time on their hands, and taking long doesn't mean they are scamming anyone really. People like to say that a lot, but it's not always the case.

There's always a lot of frustration in any thread of a game that is actually good, because people just really want to fap to the complete product. I'm no developer and I can't possibly understand how long a game can take to make regardless of skills, so I just look at the good stuff, stay happy it was good, and hope some day I get more of it. I rather refrain from calling anything a scam until it is actually proven to be.

 

[anordinary_guy]

Honestly... I like Succumb Brewery more than that game. I liked the artstyle before, and I like the artstyle now. Gameplay is simple, and I do enjoy some good old fashioned perversions in tending the bar.

You got to keep in mind not everyone has the same time on their hands, and taking long doesn't mean they are scamming anyone really. People like to say that a lot, but it's not always the case.

There's always a lot of frustration in any thread of a game that is actually good, because people just really want to fap to the complete product. I'm no developer and I can't possibly understand how long a game can take to make regardless of skills, so I just look at the good stuff, stay happy it was good, and hope some day I get more of it. I rather refrain from calling anything a scam until it is actually proven to be.

neither do i like to accuse devs of doing malicious stuff that there's no evidence for but the main point of what he's saying isnt that the devs are inherent scammers its that one can make the argument for them taking too long because others have done better and more in less time

you are correct in saying everyones situation is different so others might have way less free time to work on these projects but i would then perhaps suggest that maybe starting to game dev in general (if your situation really does cause you to take a long time) was the wrong move in the first place

 

[Indexless]

Are you fucking serious? So we are just straight up trying to normalize blatant scam time frames now huh?

You see this game? It was made in 2 years and the motherfucker already has a sequel in development with more work and content put in than most if not all 6 year long running scams, and he does not outsource any of it. Actual, top tier work too, not slop.
This is what a productive, non full-time, development cycle looks like from a person who makes porn games as opposed to a person who uses porn games to scam.

8 years to make a fucking bog standard porn game? What are you doing? Learning to program and then building the game engine from scratch? Get the hell out of here.

Your favourite game is cringe, my favourite game is based. Simple as

 

[That other person]

neither do i like to accuse devs of doing malicious stuff that there's no evidence for but the main point of what he's saying isnt that the devs are inherent scammers its that one can make the argument for them taking too long because others have done better and more in less time

you are correct in saying everyones situation is different so others might have way less free time to work on these projects but i would then perhaps suggest that maybe starting to game dev in general (if your situation really does cause you to take a long time) was the wrong move in the first place

Well yeah, but sometimes they have time and go through a lot of work, which usually ends up with more than one update in a short time because they had already worked out many issues, but then they get busy with who knows what.

Some didn't choose to be full time game devs, some had fun with an idea, had the talent, made something awesome, and then decided to take it further, but still have the rest of their lives to go about and they probably had worked a long time on the content available, so now, to make more, they need maybe the same amount of time, except now there's people screaming at them to hurry, which can't be good to have.

Also, artists can stop drawing due to their own issues, which does make the game take longer, unless the dev just uses AI. They need to adapt to the artstyle just enough, or some people go insane, as it happened already in this thread.

I'm not even defending this dev only, it's an issue they all face and I don't know their lives, so I rather just wait calmly. Now... if a dev acts like an ass, then at least that one doesn't deserve patience. But even the artist here saw the the thread and quietly made it better without complains, even though some people were just way too angry. I decided to appreciate those things first.

 

[droglob]

Honestly... I like Succumb Brewery more than that game.

Your favourite game is cringe, my favourite game is based. Simple as

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that this is accidental and the result of misinterpreting my post.

No one is comparing games. I'm not following the conversation. I just replied to a post that says it takes 8 fucking yeas to make a bog standard RPGmaker or Renpy porn game because that is utter bullshit and i gave an example. And don't even get me started on "if you don't pay your opinion is worthless" spiel, but i refrained from touching that subject as i just recently did it in a different thread.

As for this game: i like it a lot
As for this game's development: The years are starting to add up, the version number (another classic) is still below half and now the art is getting fucked with. All bad signs but not enough for me to label it anything yet.

 

[anordinary_guy]

and now the art is getting fucked with. All bad signs but not enough for me to label it anything yet.

art overhaul was good its just that people were expecting more new content rather than the art overhaul

 

[anordinary_guy]

Well yeah, but sometimes they have time and go through a lot of work, which usually ends up with more than one update in a short time because they had already worked out many issues, but then they get busy with who knows what.

Some didn't choose to be full time game devs, some had fun with an idea, had the talent, made something awesome, and then decided to take it further, but still have the rest of their lives to go about and they probably had worked a long time on the content available, so now, to make more, they need maybe the same amount of time, except now there's people screaming at them to hurry, which can't be good to have.

Also, artists can stop drawing due to their own issues, which does make the game take longer, unless the dev just uses AI. They need to adapt to the artstyle just enough, or some people go insane, as it happened already in this thread.

I'm not even defending this dev only, it's an issue they all face and I don't know their lives, so I rather just wait calmly. Now... if a dev acts like an ass, then at least that one doesn't deserve patience. But even the artist here saw the the thread and quietly made it better without complains, even though some people were just way too angry. I decided to appreciate those things first.

yes i can see how alot of what you are saying can be valid reasons for slowing down development i myself dont know too much about the game development process but i do know about just other undertakings in my life that can get delayed because of certain happenings and circumstances that can occur. i understand that

but i think it must be underscored that, assuming the dev has every intention and motivation to continue the work as soon as they're readily available (esp if they are receiving money for it), these happenings are always overcome and progress happens at a steady pace.. unless it is a very exceptional circumstance

i believe that, the longer it takes for the title to get completed, meaning a lack of steady progress and more and more downtime, the less willing i am to extend this charitability, unless the title is very ambitious which is usually not the case

 

[droglob]

art overhaul was good its just that people were expecting more new content rather than the art overhaul

That's subjective. I personally think it's not good but that's besides the point. I listed that under bad sign because of the existing pattern of art overhauls being a symptom of loss of focus or artificially extending development time for the purpose of maximizing profit. No idea if it's the case, just relating the pattern.

 

[anordinary_guy]

That's subjective. I personally think it's not good but that's besides the point. I listed that under bad sign because of the existing pattern of art overhauls being a symptom of loss of focus or artificially extending development time for the purpose of maximizing profit. No idea if it's the case, just relating the pattern.

i see and that's a fair concern. i agree this could be a valid criticism, maybe they could have done the overhaul when the game was finished/nearly finished instead. however i say it was good because it directly improved the quality of the game. if you look at some before and after photos from this thread you will see what i mean