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Its honestly hard to get behind the amount of content per update. Compared to other big titles SummerHeat is lacking behind.
Now before you twist your panties Im also well aware that pretty much no other major VN on this site and across all new wave VNs are this good in quality.

Not even close. A single non sexual lewd scene in this game has more tension than some VN's put together. Facial expressions and posing along with camerawork are like second to none. So maybe Ill continue to cope :HideThePain:

Chapter 5 was pretty good, would've loved for more but it now sets the main arc up. I hope the devs take some time off for their well being and then come back in full force.
 
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Amedore

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Its honestly hard to get behind the amount of content per update. Compared to other big titles SummerHeat is lacking behind.
Now before you twist your panties Im also well aware that pretty much no other major VN on this site and across all new wave VNs are this good in quality.

Not even close. A single non sexual lewd scene in this game has more tension than some VN's put together. Facial expressions and posing along with camerawork are like second to none. So maybe Ill continue to cope :HideThePain:

Chapter 5 was pretty good, would've loved for more but it now sets the main arc up. I hope the devs take some time off and then come back in full force.
Graphics are great and the characters are well written and it's easy to get fond of them. It's difficult to choose between all those girls, they all have their charms, although some of them seem to be too childish for 18/19 years. But it's a huge mistake to put all the lewd/sex scenes the first night, and with the MC drunk. All the girls fall for MC at the same time and he goes from the strip club (there is not even a good reason for him to be there) to a girl after another in the house... and drunk! All feel rushed. It's bad writing. The dev should have structure the events in a less rushed and more realistic way.
 

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although some of them seem to be too childish for 18/19 years.
Which ones? I think you don't hang out much with 18yo. They aren't all mature, far from it.

I agree in part with your other comment, a lot happens in this update/day. But like every story, things move much faster than in real life, maybe here it's too fast. But I don't think it's a "huge" mistake, there is a balance to find though.
 

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I love the game I just wish the choices weren't so obvious
I love when games have me questioning every choice I make
So far, I don't really feel that here
Maybe once I start fooling around with all the girls at once?
 
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Which ones? I think you don't hang out much with 18yo. They aren't all mature, far from it.

I agree in part with your other comment, a lot happens in this update/day. But like every story, things move much faster than in real life, maybe here it's too fast. But I don't think it's a "huge" mistake, there is a balance to find though.
All of them are a bit childish for their age. The redhead is the worst. Yes, she comes from an all girls school and has have a sheltered life, but she talks like if she were 14 or 15 more than 18 and seems to be really naïve. But at the same time, she starts seducing MC since the first time they met and has a lewd scene with him the very first night, so she actually isn't so naïve... It's not congruent. The same goes for the brunette. She has no experience with boys either, but it seems she wants that MC becomes her boyfriend after just a few hours of knowing him. Not a lot of sense.

It seems that Eve has had more vital experiences and knows when a boy is trying to get laid with her. Also, she's not shy with MC and asks him to show his cock the first night after only a few hours of knowing him. She's not interest in kissing and cuddling like the redhead and the brunette, just the cock, straight to the point, kinky little bitch, but... she's virgin. It's not congruent, either. Also, MC is a Casanova. He has skills and balls to seduce every girl or woman around (including mature women that barely knows) to have sex or lewd moments in just a few hours. But He's actually virgin too! Yes, he had sex a few months ago, but he was drunk and he doesn't even remember the girl, so it doesn't count. It's not congruent either.

You can say "it's just a porn game, it doesn't matter", but I think the dev is trying to create a good product and to tell a good story, not just an excuse for lewd scenes for a quick fap, so it matters. The pace of the scenes should be better. What happens in just a few hours, from noon to night, should take at least a week.
 
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I love the game I just wish the choices weren't so obvious
I love when games have me questioning every choice I make
So far, I don't really feel that here
Maybe once I start fooling around with all the girls at once?
Yea that's fun, up to a point. This game actually has a (nonconsequential) choice near the beginning that you can't roll back, not even by save scumming. I guess Patrons didn't really love that. At least they never used it again even though it was interesting. You have to keep in mind that most players don't do multiple playthroughs or even keep multiple saves so it would be quite some effort for little return with a chance to even piss off some players.

The pace of the scenes should be better. What happens in just a few hours, from noon to night, should take at least a week.
See, there's this opinion and then there's people in the reviews writing "not enough sexual content 1/5 stars". Can't please everyone.
I agree however that the club visit was a little irritating. I guess there's a plan and it'll pay off but we'll see.
 

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Just look at that pained smile :cry:

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She's the most interesting LI for me in this VN and honestly, I can do without the roleplay and turning her into another generic soulless MILF that we've seen countless times in other VN's.

Instead, I'm hoping for a more mature/subtle character development where she's opposed to any kind of relationship because of the age difference until we convince her otherwise.
My comment was just some light-hearted humour.

What I'll say about this sort of character is that it's great if developers can avoid cliches or stereotypes on either extreme end. Yes,"another generic soulless" woman has been overdone, but I also find the idea of an almost angelic level of goodness in a character to be an absolute bore. I'm definitely in favour of her being hesitant about the relationship because of the social norms and ethical boundaries that she'd break in accepting the MC's advancements. But having the MC doing the chasing with little-to-no flirting from Ms Hill wouldn't make much sense, in my view. There's a nuanced way of going about this, of setting up this relationship with clever subtleties that makes it stand out. Reacting positively to his teasing through low-key body language, escalating the tension through "mistakes", and not only accepting but taking pleasure in flirtatious terms like "mommy", are all very real-world behaviours that can advance this type of relationship.
 
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although some of them seem to be too childish for 18/19 years.

But it's a huge mistake to put all the lewd/sex scenes the first night.

All the girls fall for MC at the same time and he goes from the strip club (there is not even a good reason for him to be there) to a girl after another in the house..
Do you know every 18-19 year-old in the world? people can be that old/older but act childish/young/younger and vice versa. It's a game, don't take everything too seriously.

In almost every AVN game, all the girls are in love with the MC or fall in love with the MC within the first meeting. Ms Hill sent the MC with Miller, that was the reason for him being there. I am sure it's also to start up the "what's in the basement" story arc. I'm just guessing though.


All of them are a bit childish for their age. The redhead is the worst. Yes, she comes from an all girls school and has have a sheltered life, but she talks like if she were 14 or 15 more than 18.

The same goes for the brunette. She has no experience with boys either, but it seems she wants that MC becomes his boyfriend after just a few hours of knowing him. Not a lot of sense.

Eve, kinky little bitch, but... she's virgin. It's not congruent, either.

Also, MC is a Casanova. He has skills and balls to seduce every girl or woman around (including mature women that barely knows) to have sex or lewd moments in just a few hours. But He's actually virgin too! Yes, he had sex a few months ago, but he was drunk and he doesn't even remember the girl, so it doesn't count.

What happens in just a few hours, from noon to night, should take at least a week.

Do you talk with 14-15 year olds often? plus, the Dev is the one who writes the dialogue (if the Dev himself doesn't do that, sorry) he can always look for a female writer to write for the girls, but it seems to me like you're the only person having an issue with the way the characters talk/act.


Yeah, Mia wants the MC to be "her" bf, not "his" bf. What are you talking about? Mia and the MC has known each other for a long time. If you didn't mean Mia, sorry.


It sounds like Eve isn't a virgin but like most girls in these AVNs, they are "virgins" for you, the player/MC.


Even if he was drunk and couldn't remember the girl, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. His peepee was inside her special place, whether the MC remembers or not. Also, he fucked Cass :ROFLMAO: he wasn't drunk for that one. He had no problem with her.


If it did, you'd have horny kids crying/bitching/complaining about giving the game some lewd/nude action. If you don't like the way the game is or how the characters are, go find something else you can enjoy without complaining about it.



To the Dev

Thank you for the awesome update. I can totally see all the hard work you've put into it. Even if future updates will be shorter, I'll just be glad for the game to be a step closer to being completed. I am just curious about how long it will take.

Like, do you already have the ending set? (knowing how the story ends) and I am hoping a Steam release is close by (do you have an idea? or do you want more updates first?) Even if you have to put it in Early Access, I'd buy it asap.
 

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See, there's this opinion and then there's people in the reviews writing "not enough sexual content 1/5 stars". Can't please everyone.
I agree however that the club visit was a little irritating. I guess there's a plan and it'll pay off but we'll see.
The dev doesn't need to show us what's happening in every second of MC's life. There are narrative techniques to jump to relevant moments of different days and not to have to pack all the scenes one after another. The dev could have added the same scenes in the update but could have distributed them in a more natural way along different days without show us all that happens those days if it's just routine like having meals and classes, only showing the relevant moments of those days.
 
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I'm definitely in favour of her being hesitant about the relationship because of the social norms and ethical boundaries that she'd break in accepting the MC's advancements. But having the MC doing the chasing with little-to-no flirting from Ms Hill wouldn't make much sense, in my view. There's a nuanced way of going about this, of setting up this relationship with clever subtleties that makes it stand out. Reacting positively to his teasing through low-key body language
That is actually exactly what's happening. She never said she "doesn't like" MCs attention. She just says they "can't do it" in reference to social norms. She looks at him (and his crotch, repeatedly) in a certain way when she knows he's not paying attention. I actually think Ms. Hill is written a lot better than most milf characters in other AVNs.
 

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All of them are a bit childish for their age. The redhead is the worst. Yes, she comes from an all girls school and has have a sheltered life, but she talks like if she were 14 or 15 more than 18 and seems to be really naïve. But at the same time, she starts seducing MC since the first time they met and has a lewd scene with him the very first night, so she actually isn't so naïve... It's not congruent. The same goes for the brunette. She has no experience with boys either, but it seems she wants that MC becomes her boyfriend after just a few hours of knowing him. Not a lot of sense.

It seems that Eve has had more vital experiences and knows when a boy is trying to get laid with her. Also, she's not shy with MC and asks him to show his cock the first night after only a few hours of knowing him. She's not interest in kissing and cuddling like the redhead and the brunette, just the cock, straight to the point, kinky little bitch, but... she's virgin. It's not congruent, either. Also, MC is a Casanova. He has skills and balls to seduce every girl or woman around (including mature women that barely knows) to have sex or lewd moments in just a few hours. But He's actually virgin too! Yes, he had sex a few months ago, but he was drunk and he doesn't even remember the girl, so it doesn't count. It's not congruent either.

You can say "it's just a porn game, it doesn't matter", but I think the dev is trying to create a good product and to tell a good story, not just an excuse for lewd scenes for a quick fap, so it matters. The pace of the scenes should be better. What happens in just a few hours, from noon to night, should take at least a week.
I suspect devs do these things on purpose in order to appeal to a wider audience. For example, some people like naive virgins, so devs tend to include at least one irrespective of their age (which can't be under 18).

In any event, even 18-year olds who have attended a private, all-girls school would likely be both (1) immature compared to their public school peers, and (2) very interested in boys despite their inexperience (because boys must seem a bit like an exotic species to them).
 

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All of them are a bit childish for their age. The redhead is the worst. Yes, she comes from an all girls school and has have a sheltered life, but she talks like if she were 14 or 15 more than 18 and seems to be really naïve
I feel like this is a pretty common problem in adult vn games.

And personally, I find that usual 'naive virgin' girl the most uninteresting of the bunch.. and they usually give bad vibes and make me question the devs intentions. :censored:
 
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