VN Ren'Py Summer Heat [v0.6.1] [Naughty Fox Games]

[allanl9020142]

I´m not a big fan of time skips, i feel like a desconection with the game and characters when this happen...but i understand sometimes is necessary for the plot, i hope they know how to do it well.

I'm just wondering how they're going to do it. Seems like from context, the camp is only a few weeks. That could be anything from two weeks to the whole damn summer unless I missed some detail that narrows it down a little more. Unless it expands past the camp. That'd be pretty interesting. Bring our camp honey home. As long as it's not 20 years into the future or something lol.

Regardless, I think I have faith in the writing. If anything it's more likely to be used as a tool to explain sudden leaps in relationship development that happens off screen, etc. Otherwise they'd get people bitching about the realism about how fast the relationships are progressing or something to that effect. Then again, you can already cut the sexual tension with a knife for most of them. So who knows?

 

[anonnyscouse]

More likely a couple of renders and a description of the lessons they do during a week, and then on to action for the next weekend.

 

[Brainfurt]

Spoiler: Hey Brainfurt, did you just peek at my ass?

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[allanl9020142]

More likely a couple of renders and a description of the lessons they do during a week, and then on to action for the next weekend.

Something like a montage? I can see that too.

 

[sickkiddo666]

nice game

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

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She may be no4 on my list, but she is still a fine hot babe.

 

[BYK370]

Thank you. Time to find out what Eve is all about. I'm normally a fan of redheads and chocolate girls, but this one caught my eye.

Ngl my friend when I start this game when I saw Eve I instantly hook up with this game I hope in future we have more Eve contents ❤

 

[DirtyMario]

She may be no4 on my list, but she is still a fine hot babe.

If we're talking IRL, I guess she's cool to hang around with and maybe a really fun lay but I couldn't be in a permanent relationship with a girl that thinks like she's still 14 years old. It's not her fault and it'll probably get better but I'd constantly feel like I'm taking advantage of her state.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Unless it expands past the camp. That'd be pretty interesting. Bring our camp honey home. As long as it's not 20 years into the future or something lol.

Honeys*

 

[DirtyMario]

As long as it's not 20 years into the future or something lol.

Spoiler: 20 years later...

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[NebulousShooter]

Hot take: I wish they will go back and rework first day into a first week. The pacing is very unrealistic, it kinda craps over the immersion of the main synopsis and plot, there are sooo many things that happen in 24h and relationships go from 0 to 11, but its specifically damages the Sophie relationship. While you can argue that for Bree, Jenny and to a lesser extent Eve the MC is a crush, an infatuation, for Sophie seem to be real deep feelings and there is no realistic way to portray a 'love at first sight' to be believable they way it was displayed in game after just one day.

The rework could be as lazy as

transitions and changing some dialogue lines to reflect the passage of time, or could be more elaborate, doubt it will take more than 50ish extra renders for continuity patching.

 

[asahibito]

Hot take: I wish they will go back and rework first day into a first week. The pacing is very unrealistic, it kinda craps over the immersion of the main synopsis and plot, there are sooo many things that happen in 24h and relationships go from 0 to 11, but its specifically damages the Sophie relationship. While you can argue that for Bree, Jenny and to a lesser extent Eve the MC is a crush, an infatuation, for Sophie seem to be real deep feelings and there is no realistic way to portray a 'love at first sight' to be believable they way it was displayed in game after just one day.

The rework could be as lazy as
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transitions and changing some dialogue lines to reflect the passage of time, or could be more elaborate, doubt it will take more than 50ish extra renders for continuity patching.

Did exactly this in my headcanon. Just periodically closed my eyes for a couple of seconds and imagined time passing. Really works wonders for the relationship progression.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Hot take: I wish they will go back and rework first day into a first week. The pacing is very unrealistic, it kinda craps over the immersion of the main synopsis and plot, there are sooo many things that happen in 24h and relationships go from 0 to 11, but its specifically damages the Sophie relationship. While you can argue that for Bree, Jenny and to a lesser extent Eve the MC is a crush, an infatuation, for Sophie seem to be real deep feelings and there is no realistic way to portray a 'love at first sight' to be believable they way it was displayed in game after just one day.

The rework could be as lazy as
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transitions and changing some dialogue lines to reflect the passage of time, or could be more elaborate, doubt it will take more than 50ish extra renders for continuity patching.

Did exactly this in my headcanon. Just periodically closed my eyes for a couple of seconds and imagined time passing. Really works wonders for the relationship progression.

Yep, time progression often seems to be problematic for VN writers. Writers lock themselves in to the mind set of a day per chapter or similar, so relationship progression is jammed in to a small time frame. The writer of SH has fallen in to the trap and a lot of that is because they are trying to use the limited time frame of camp to tell the story. In real life, relationships are just budding by the end of camp, but here the writer has to develop budding romances in the first couple of days to progress a larger story in to the set time frame. Its hard to avoid the trap.

The only one who should have an advanced relationship with the MC is Mia. In SH's case, the writer may have been better served by the students knowing each other from a previous camp and seeking to reawaken and pursue those romances. And/or the writer could have a surprise event cause the extension of the camp allowing them the opportunity of a more realistic romance progression. Anyway, its not a deal breaker, its just one of those VN quirks.

 

[allanl9020142]

If we're talking IRL, I guess she's cool to hang around with and maybe a really fun lay but I couldn't be in a permanent relationship with a girl that thinks like she's still 14 years old. It's not her fault and it'll probably get better but I'd constantly feel like I'm taking advantage of her state.

Yea, I can imagine how she is could get pretty fucking tiring. But I just like redheads in VNs so much, man! Which is why you just have both Sophie and Bree like a package deal. Might as well throw in Mia while you're at it since I can't just ignore someone who's been pining for the MC for so long ... add Eve too. And can't forget about Cait.

You know what, might as well just keep siblings together and add Cass.

Also Jenni just cause.

Wait, what was I talking about?

 

[lipe2410]

Hot take: I wish they will go back and rework first day into a first week. The pacing is very unrealistic, it kinda craps over the immersion of the main synopsis and plot, there are sooo many things that happen in 24h and relationships go from 0 to 11, but its specifically damages the Sophie relationship. While you can argue that for Bree, Jenny and to a lesser extent Eve the MC is a crush, an infatuation, for Sophie seem to be real deep feelings and there is no realistic way to portray a 'love at first sight' to be believable they way it was displayed in game after just one day.

The rework could be as lazy as
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transitions and changing some dialogue lines to reflect the passage of time, or could be more elaborate, doubt it will take more than 50ish extra renders for continuity patching.

So, you wanna them take a Braindrop WVM’s turn? Thanks, but no

and the pace is fine. Hell, this is probably the most common thing when you’re a teenager/young: everything is more intense and quick. You just need mere hours with someone to start have feelings for he/she (hormones in furry, right?). And Sophie is a bookworm who probably read to much romances, so this is probably her dream coming true : find a guy and have a “love at first sight” story.

 

[dolfe67]

and the pace is fine. Hell, this is probably the most common thing when you’re a teenager/young: everything is more intense and quick. You just need mere hours with someone to start have feelings for he/she (hormones in furry, right?). And Sophie is a bookworm who probably read to much romances, so this is probably her dream coming true : find a guy and have a “love at first sight” story.

A few characters maybe, but not all. Everything happens faster in a story than in real life to not bore reader/viewer, but when you think about it, it really is too fast here. Though it's really enjoyable if you don't think too much about it, and they don't pretend to be best-seller writers.

 

[Maviarab]

A few characters maybe, but not all. Everything happens faster in a story than in real life to not bore reader/viewer, but when you think about it, it really is too fast here. Though it's really enjoyable if you don't think too much about it, and they don't pretend to be best-seller writers.

Very much this indeed and it cannot be helped (though could be better here). Your comment reminded me of all the hate Jackson got for LoTR.....hell, if we went accurately to the books, 5 hours into the first film we'd still have been in the damn shire lol.

Unfortunately in this medium some liberties do need to be taken..however as was said, maybe a '3 days later' screen would help a lot.

 

[NebulousShooter]

So, you wanna them take a Braindrop WVM’s turn? Thanks, but no

and the pace is fine. Hell, this is probably the most common thing when you’re a teenager/young: everything is more intense and quick. You just need mere hours with someone to start have feelings for he/she (hormones in furry, right?). And Sophie is a bookworm who probably read to much romances, so this is probably her dream coming true : find a guy and have a “love at first sight” story.

Way too much stuff, too deep and too big happen in 15-20 hours to a single person. You have the entire plot of a movie, I completely disagree, you can subjectively not be bothered by it, but that is objectively bad pacing and unrealistic relationship growth, even for VN standards. If in the second day MC asked Sophie to marry him, in the way the romance was speedrun, I have no doubt she would say yes

Also, lol at giving a shit tier game made by a notorious liar as an counter argument on why you shouldn't do something

 

[lipe2410]

A few characters maybe, but not all. Everything happens faster in a story than in real life to not bore reader/viewer, but when you think about it, it really is too fast here. Though it's really enjoyable if you don't think too much about it, and they don't pretend to be best-seller writers.

I don't know why you and others are claiming things are happing faster with all characters. The only ones i can say things happen faster are with Cassie and Jenny, two side girls MC can already bang in the first day in a interval of hours. But th. But with the main girls? seriously, what happen with them and MC to be considered faster out of normal? He just kiss Bree and Sophie, show his dick to Eve (because she asked), the blowjob from Mia is just her desperate move to step up her game to not lose MC to others since she is already in love with him even before the game start. And Ms Hill is nothing more than light flirt (for MC's part when he is drunk) until now. There is nothing faster here, unless your view is to much biased by the same old clichè slow-burn narrative in AVNs where relationships are portrayed as some kind of twelve labors of heracles and sex is treated as the big prize/end-goal for MC only after he conclude all the "jobs", if you know what i mean

 

[lipe2410]

Way too much stuff, too deep and too big happen in 15-20 hours to a single person. You have the entire plot of a movie, I completely disagree, you can subjectively not be bothered by it, but that is objectively bad pacing and unrealistic relationship growth, even for VN standards. If in the second day MC asked Sophie to marry him, in the way the romance was speedrun, I have no doubt she would say yes

Also, lol at giving a shit tier game made by a notorious liar as an counter argument on why you shouldn't do something

But there is many movies which plot/story happen in a spam of just a day. Someones in even less range of time. And there is nothing objectively bad about that. It's just one of the many ways to tell a story. A famous TV show in 2000s had as concept each season (with 24 episodes) will spam just a day in the life of the protagonist (each episode was 1 hour in the story)
If we wanna talk about the so called "realism" in AVNs (which baffles me how people are obsessed with realism), then let's start with how truly unrealistic is girls with different personalities and backgrounds start fell in love with the exact same guy. Here and in all others VNs, even the ones that claim to be "realistic"
And i mentioned WVM because that what's exactly Braindrop did: people complined to much things happen in the beginning of the game, then he decided rework the beginning to spread the events in a more broader range of time (exctly what you suggest), and well look how that work out