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I agree with you but normally what slow burn means is that nothing will happen for far too long and then, suddenly, sex followed by the story just kind of ending. It also makes the progression commonly predictable, so for the veteran VN player more tedious.
For sure. From what I've seen, it's not usually the slow burns that make the characters and romantic aspect of it seem better. What 100% works is when a dev does a good job at building up tension, mutual interest, and clear motive. It can still take a few updates but overall takes relatively less time than a typical "slow burn" and can only be done if the writing is good. It escalates things to get "hotter and hotter" while maintaining the player's interest instead of "nothing happens, nothing happens, CLIMAX!, boom we're done".

I want to say Summer Heat is the former. Just look at Sophie. You could cut the sexual tension that character brings to each scene with a knife. If anything, the glacial timeline progression itself is what makes it feel like a slow burn. Not even day 2 and you've got Bree rushing off to the bathroom for some "me time". Yea, I think there's going to be a good back and forth between the characters. There's clear desire and clear action. It provides context to the player for why a scene might happen instead of just throwing at you but also lays the groundwork for if something happens sooner than you might expect.
 

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Hello, everyone!

Status update #41 coming up! This week we've been hitting the remaining content hard. Mainly renders, but also a couple of animations. Not much remains when looking at the screenplay, and the biggest task soon is rendering everything out. Including, of course, all the animations. Last weekend we did some playtesting and made some editing decisions. We decided to cut a couple of planned animations as they were not necessary. This saves us some rendering time, which will be reallocated to other, more important animations. The kind people play for.

Looking back on the chapter and its content, it's one big ass update... It will effectively double the size of the game in one release. Speaking of chapters, future updates will no longer be called "chapters". There are many reasons for this and they are all over the place, but you can expect the updates to be called 0.6, 0.7, 0.8 etc. in the future instead. For the time being, we will still be referring to CH05 as CH05 instead of 0.5.

We also did quite a bit of editing and scripting this week, including some Ember and phone content for future cha... updates. Additionally, we are toying with the idea of an Android version. There are some issues regarding Android which is why we haven't released one so far (mainly relating to the in-game phone), but if we could solve those issues it would be a great thing to offer to people without computers. This is not a promise nor a very high priority, but the thought is there.

What else...? Coding, SFX, and plenty of morphs were created as well. We also did a round of fixing on some finished renders and some post-processing.

All in all, it was a good week.



Cheers!

Robison & Npx
Considering this post of mine
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TBH, those messages are something I would remove from the game since they don't really serve any purpose. I would also remove any reference to "chapter" and would stick to calling the updates v.0.4, 0.5 or whatever the number.
I fully endorse the decision to shift from the so-called chapters to v.0.X. It will be more faithful to the game's characteristics.
 

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With the update changes.. does that mean the updates will be shorter again? Instead of doing chapters, just cutting episodes into parts?
 
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With the update changes.. does that mean the updates will be shorter again? Instead of doing chapters, just cutting episodes into parts?
Idk about the future but usually after updates that take so long, when the dev says he's gonna try to speed things up next, what you get is less content and almost the same development time.
I hope I'm wrong but I have seen this pattern before.
 
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Only time will tell. I give the benefit of the doubt that we will return to the 3-4 month release window, but with less "consistent" updates or maybe more "certain path only" updates
If they created enough content then I would hope they'd go back to shorter updates or certain path only. They'll probably take a break after this update because 3000+ renders is a lot. I'm cool with 1000 or less.
 
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Idk about the future but usually after updates that take so long, when the dev says he's gonna try to speed things up next, what you get is less content and almost the same development time.
I hope I'm wrong but I have seen this pattern before.
It's understandable though, everyone needs a break. I just hope they will go back back to shorter updates. It keeps the fans happy and they will gain new fans faster.
 
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I'm only a few hours in and I can already tell that I'm going to need at least 6 saves. No way I can choose between these beautiful ladies. The character design is extremely good and they are written well so far.

I figure I'll play fast and loose and then start getting serious with dedicated saves.

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I'm only a few hours in and I can already tell that I'm going to need at least 6 saves. No way I can choose between these beautiful ladies. The character design is extremely good and they are written well so far.

I figure I'll play fast and loose and then start getting serious with dedicated saves.

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As of now there really isn't a need for multiple saves but I see what you mean, in the future I will also need to make dedicated saves.
Bree is (obviously) my favorite and then comes Sophie and Mia :BootyTime: guys don't tell Joshy but I don't really like Eve
 

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I'm only a few hours in and I can already tell that I'm going to need at least 6 saves. No way I can choose between these beautiful ladies.
Well, since you've late to the game I can tell you that most of these beautiful ladies are already spoken for. Multiple times. The only one I think is free would be Helen.

Somewhat more seriously, they are all lovely and interesting characters, which definitely makes you want to play the game several times. My favourite is Mia, but she is closely followed by Bree.
 

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With the update changes.. does that mean the updates will be shorter again? Instead of doing chapters, just cutting episodes into parts?
Yes, the updates will go back to being shorter; this was announced a long time ago.
However, that's not what they meant in their latest patreon post. They were simply referring to the use of the word "chapter" to name their updates. Since the story is not really divided into distinct chapters or episodes, they will remove that word and simply call the updates "version 0.5, 0.6, etc" instead of calling them Chapter 5, Chapter 6...
 

allanl9020142

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With the update changes.. does that mean the updates will be shorter again? Instead of doing chapters, just cutting episodes into parts?
It might not necessarily be shorter updates but probably. Another reason for not calling them chapters anymore is that they're less pressured to essentially "wrap up" each chapter with an open-ended ending and instead could just make cut off points where they feel satisfied.

It could be a way of them being able to stick to self-imposed deadlines like, "we want to put out an update every 6 months so we'll reach x amount of renders and stop there or we'll keep working on it until this time then just start testing" without having to worry about the extra work that comes with the different renders, story boarding, dialogue, etc. for the endings of "chapters".

Might result in less content, might not. I'm just guessing the change is for them to make the process more streamlined since when the game is complete, no one will really care about individual chapter endings and more about the overall plot. It looks like they're still experimenting on what works for them. You see small "start ups" pivot all the time. They put something out, receive feedback, then make a structural change to their plans going forward.

It looks like they've had that approach from the very beginning and it's not a problem with the product since a decent amount of people are still following it. Kind of feels like the update after ch. 5 will determine whether they're actually optimizing anything or are just spinning their wheels. Still, I can sympathize. It's not fun to have to keep pivoting so often even after investing so much time into a project/business. It must feel pretty frustrating.
From what I've experienced, it usually turns out that the plans and managing said plans aren't the problem. It's just a matter of executing on those plans. Just do it.
 
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