VN Ren'Py Summer Scent [v0.6.5a] [The Naughty Captain]

[Glooskabe]

Cap is our favorite slowpoke, you get used to it after a while ;P

Oh, but it is SO worth the wait!

 

[jrwizzard]

I dont like that I cant choose the words that I want. I want a cheat so I can adjust the numbers, and/or open up conversation choices.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

I dont like that I cant choose the words that I want. I want a cheat so I can adjust the numbers, and/or open up conversation choices.

As a great philosopher once said: you can't always get what you want.

 

[emigrate2230]

mick jagger said that, no? and i would so want or hope that kelly is a metalchick. she kinda fits the profile (shy, introverted and grateful for any kind word)

 

[fortuna95]

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#Random Render - Cassie & Jane

 

[emigrate2230]

damn, Jane is beautiful. I imagine her in a goth outfit. very nicely done. this is pure art

 

[NeimadFR]

Have we been introduced to Jane in a previous Patreon post? I don't recall her in the game and have no idea who she is. But I know my memory is pretty crap so there's that.

 

[ugulugulu]

Jane is the slightly wild chick Jacks friend scored while he is on that holiday And she also had a phone call with the girls. Dunno if that happens on every route (probably not) but on some it does :>

 

[NeimadFR]

Jane is the slightly wild chick Jacks friend scored while he is on that holiday And she also had a phone call with the girls. Dunno if that happens on every route (probably not) but on some it does :>

Thank you.
That proves I wasn't lying about my bad memory.
Whatever she said to them was probably a big help in making the throuple work and might make any mix of sub/dom/love throuple possible.

 

[minibec88]

very good game. I love

 

[The Naughty Captain]

You haven't really seen her in

Have we been introduced to Jane in a previous Patreon post? I don't recall her in the game and have no idea who she is. But I know my memory is pretty crap so there's that.

Thank you.
That proves I wasn't lying about my bad memory.
Whatever she said to them was probably a big help in making the throuple work and might make any mix of sub/dom/love throuple possible.

You haven't really seen her in game yet. I only used her in some bonus renders for now. Maybe that will change in Day 6, who knows ?

 

[Mahakmar]

first off yeah cassie there is the exit , stage exit leeeeft

the thing with cassie (if you explore all the options with her) you will understand her , but if you go her beeing dominating its kinda mystery and there is the consent route and try resist her (and it just ends up beeing bad for you) ,or you accept it and explore you sexuality , i might be the minority in this : exploring the various kinks and sexual turn on is a way for 2 people to explore but you are force in one way where you should have the option next time to just say no or tell the other party why its just not right what happens, yes cassie is coming from a rough-twisted upbringing but the heavy handed way the scenes come off just makes me go no thank you

the 2 scenes where you try resisting is where the game just makes me go yeah i dont want to see where this goes , yes there might be a redemtion arch in the end (as we see the game progress)

this ofc has been discussed earlier-there are warnings coming up in the game but seriously before the first scene where she wants to go hard on you , you say no and she accepts it, this girl got issues and she wont tell you this if you gone one route with her and she cant understand why , the game urges the player to play it more times but you are missing the connections if you dont play the specific route where her upbringing gets brought up

On a final note yeh i cant wait till the game gets more progess and i can pretty much go the evil route , keep on waiting for the game and where it goes

 

[The Naughty Captain]

I'm so incredibly mad right now. This is the first time a VN game has gotten me this upset due to a lack of decision option and the walkthrough mod suggestions completely misguided me into a crappy path despite the mentions of harem choices. (and the fanmade walkthrough and in-depth walkthrough looked unusually complicated and game emersion breaking to try and follow while playing so I didn't bother with those... which I now regret)

Without spoiling too much... I'm at the spot where the betrayal happened, they're in the dark master bedroom and the harem response option is greyed out ("I'll tell you everything") despite my best efforts to go that route from the very beginning. I prioritized love points over sub / dom route as that stuff doesn't usually interest me.

Current stats are: Eve Aff: 91, Eve Sub: 7, Cassie Aff: 68, Cassie Dom: 3

My question is... where did I go wrong and would I need to restart the entire game just to fix this nonsense? Do I need to focus less on love and more on Sub / Dom route? Is that what this game is about? No harem love, just loveless YOLO sex like a bunch of sluts? Or should I just push forward and see what happens?

Throughout my entire gameplay experience, I kept feeling like the solutions to their drama were so simple and easy to solve but the dev never once gave the MC the option to attempt to solve any of them and just forced the escalation to happen... like mediocre writers often do things... but this just takes it too far for me. I can tolerate bad grammar and spelling, but this is too much. Also, the police have no right to involve parents when the ppl involved are over the age of 18 whether they're living with parents or not. This is common knowledge. But I guess all 3 characters in this game failed their civics class which (at least where I live) is a mandatory credit in highschool.

Come to think of it, this playthrough so far didn't even give me a single lewd scene worth mentioning. I guess there's no rewards for being the nice guy in this particular game. Or at least that's my view of it. I can only assume the fanboys will jump in to flame me (and leave negative reactions to my post) for my opinions as though my experience with the game is somehow wrong.

There are like a hundred posts, in this very thread, that will explain the necessary steps to avoid the bad end.

Sorry if I'm a mediocre writer, and I apologize for my horrendous grammar and spelling.
We obviously don't share the same culture and knowledge of civil rights.
Just as we probably don't share the same idea of being a nice guy.

 

[emigrate2230]

god...those complainers bore me to death.chill the F out. i got the harem path dfrom the first try without clues. use your brain and not your D

 

[BlurryRender]

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DEVS: more FeMC, tiny breasts and M/D content, PLEASE

I'd ask at least for normal breasts... when most devs say their game has the biggest ones ever

 

[The Naughty Captain]

A very kind person private messaged me with the helpful info I needed not to mention the fact that apparently this is a very common issue with this game. I apparently missed the harem route due to a single bad decision which was: "choosing Cassie over Eve in the Lingerie store". How could I have possibly known to do this? And why would that 1 seemingly random choice make such a big difference in the harem path?

And why not?
If you actually read the dialogues, you know that this option gives you some arguments that you then use to convince Cassie to stay with you.
I guess that's not a good enough reason.

The Naughty Captain What are the odds that anyone would ever go through hundreds of forum posts before playing a game while not even knowing that this was an issue they'd be dealing with just so they'd know what to do while playing? This was clearly a mistake by the walkthrough mod maker for not guiding players properly and yourself for even making this an issue in the first place. I understand having to have a minimum love points for harem to happen as this is quite common (though not usually that strict), but for a seemingly random decision to also matter greatly in the harem is a bad game design choice.

I'm pretty sure that there are enough warnings in place to inform you that your choices will have consequences. You chose to play the game knowingly. You can't blame me for that.

I understand you would prefer a simpler "Please stay, so that we can fuck to death." option.
Sorry, this isn't that kind of game.
That choice may seem random to you. Not to me.
You chose Eve. Cassie didn't like that you deliberately intended to cheat on her before you too were even a thing. You also missed some key argument to convince her to stay. That's as simple as that.

Being called a mediocre writer shouldn't be taken so harshly either in my opinion as I imagine you're probably not some published famous writer or anything... you're just a solo dev doing your best in writing a story and spending countless hours rendering to make a vn porn game. You're likely not spending countless hours writing and re-reading several times everything you write and have actual professionals to proofread to be sure it's perfect. I'd probably consider at least 95% of the writers for VN porn games to be mediocre at best. So I mean no disrespect in that regard. Also, I didn't say your grammar and spelling were horrendous, I just said that I'm used to seeing bad grammar and spelling in these kinds of games... as in it's quite common (even with top selling games) and I'm used to it.
I wouldn't mind knowing what kind of culture you grew up with and why that would even matter as I've never heard of adults being treated as children by the police.
And I literally chose all the nicest / complementing options in the game, avoiding arrogant sub / dom choices... and got no reward for doing that. So I guess you're right in that we have different ideas of what a nice guy is.

I probably overreacted. It's a "no painkillers" day and I'm a bit irritable.
I guess you don't know me and have no clue how I work because despite what you may think, I worked countless hours on this script and I have a proofreader. I wrote about 200 000 words before editing for that update alone. I scraped, edited, and rewrote everything several times to get to those final 87 000 words.
English isn't my native language but I do my best to write something decent enough so that my proofreader doesn't want to die when he works on my script.
So, no, I'm not the best at writing, not in french and probably even less in English. But being called mediocre sure isn't a compliment.


If it can reassure you, I have no doubt that I have a lot of work to put in before I can write something good by my own standards. This isn't the first thing I write but that's my first game, and my first work in English. So I guess I'm still a newbie. I won't apologize for that.

I understand you don't like my game, my story and the way I write it, though. That's fair.
Being called mediocre, on the other hand, isn't. That felt condescending and judgmental and I didn't like it.
That being said, maybe I misunderstood you. Maybe you intended it as a compliment. After all, as a filthy French man, I'm probably unable to understand the subtleties of the English language.

emigrate2230 If it's a common complaint / concern, then obviously it shouldn't be dismissed and ignored. Majority opinions should matter as the whole point of a game is to have a memorable experience, and given that it's a porn game, being a pleasant game should be prioritized too. How is it a pleasant memorable game if I (and apparently many others) become really upset by the game's design?

Then I must be lucky because so far, my last release has been greatly received.

 

[emigrate2230]

if you want porn go fkin watch porn. i found this game by mistake honestly and was pleasantly surprised just because it is somewhat a hard game to play. meaning you have to pick the right choices and one mistake fucks up everything. just like in life.besides the dc comics fan in me likes this game because one choice leads to multiple possible paths and reminds me of The Flash with time travel, multiverses etc. as i said inmy review. to me this is more of a psychological game than a porn game

and if it was only pleasant it would have been fucking boring like i would have played once and not give a damn about new versions new days etc. but now i am excited for every update

later edit - btw, every little choice matters in real life. i have seen couples breaking up because of shitty reasons lke - why don't you come with me to buy underwear...so that complain is BS

 

[emigrate2230]

the difference here is that you can start all over again. and just stop complaining. you act like a spoiled brat with the first phrase...awww poor you that you have to be careful at every little choice you little kitty
it is a game with pros and cons. and btw the bad ending is actually cool in a way. i said it before. part of me wants Cassie to have the bad ending.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

The Naughty Captain And I'm supposed to backtrack on every option I make in order to figure out which one has the best outcome? That doesn't sound like fun, especially given that I had no idea it would have that big of an impact. Besides, in that moment, I thought I needed to talk to Eve in order to keep her as the romance option, not Cassie. Cassie seemed like an easy one to convince. Incest relations are usually always the most difficult ones to progress with. Just admit that you left a trap for us.

As I said i don't try to please everyone. You didn't like it. No big deal.
With your reasonning, every choice that doesn't lead to the outcome you desire is a trap.

Nearly every single VN game gives that same warning, that decisions matter and change the outcome of the game. It wouldn't be much of a VN game if choices didn't have an impact on the game.

Well, now you know it's serious.

Also, I didn't want the cheat option at all... you forced that onto the MC as soon as the MC and Cassie were about to become a thing. I, the player, had no say in that. As I said, you gave the player no option to resolve any of the drama building up and just left it to escalate to that scenario. I would have preferred the honest approach where the MC talks to Cassie right away about how there's conflicting feelings rather than waiting for the predictable outcome of being caught in bed. Also, even after being caught, the MC is still given no option to defend his choices and to just accept Cassie's assumptions of cheating behavior.

You didn't like it. Okay.
But you chose to kiss both girls.

Mediocre = average... if you think I'd call you (a non native English speaking writer) anything more than average at writing an English script, especially given the competition out there, you're expecting way too high of a praise. Taking something like being called average as an insult or whatever makes no sense to me... you can't expect to excel at everything you do, especially when you're writing in a non native language, it's unrealistic. Just do your best and hope for the best, but don't expect miracles either.

Then that was really a misunderstanding, because to me, mediocre = a big pile of shit.
And my expectations are pretty low, don't worry.

You assume I don't like your game based on my 1 major complaint of this harem trap that I and many others fell into... that's not true. I just think you could do better to fix that so as to prevent anger / frustration when being forced into a path the player tried so hard to avoid. Once I go back and load an old save and make that correct random choice, then skip forward until I'm back to that scene again, I might be able to get back to enjoying the story for the most part again.

No. I assumed that you didn't like the game because I'm a mediocre writer, with a full of grammar and spelling error script, because I'm "likely not spending countless hours writing and re-reading several times everything you write and have actual professionals to proofread to be sure it's perfect." and because you probably didn't really play the game before posting.

I'm totally fine with anger and frustration.
Summer scent isn't a mindless fuck fest, it's a drama. I understand it doesn't please everyone but I think I have been pretty clear about that in the multiple warnings that you have clicked through.

Again, I'm in pain and irritable today. I know I shouldn't engage in that kind of discussion when I'm like that but I can't help it.
So sorry if I sound harsh.

You're not the first one to complain about that part.
To be honest, there are several parts of the script I'm not completely happy with and that I plan to rework sooner or later, but this part isn't one of them.
From the feedback I have, a lot of people end up on the bad end on their first run ( mostly because like you, they go talk to Eve in the lingerie shop) but only a minority have problems avoiding it in a second playthrough. Most of my players came back to me saying that in the end, that choice (in the lingerie shop) makes sense. I take it as a confirmation that my design isn't as flawed as it may seem.
There's a first visceral reaction to scene 7, I can't deny it, but it's expected. Everything is different after you've played through that bad end. It's intended.
I'm not going to change it.

For the record, I used to be native French speaking until some time during college when it fazed out and eventually lost most of it.

You probably won't miss it.

 

[Droftaw]

i think the problem Turgsh01 and a number of other people are having is based upon the assumption that this game is just like most other VNPorn games out there. It masks the answers in subtle ways and it should get players to trying different options and different paths to understand the characters and their influences. In my humble opinion this game has no comparison to most of the VN's on this site and is more akin to one of the old text based adventures or point and click games. I posted the correct options to obtain the throuple path back on page 85 but i only found that pathway through multiple playthroughs. What i didnt do was tell a dev who is going through their first attempt at a complex game how to write their story. there is criticism and constructive feedback and i didnt think anything you wrote was the latter.

p.s. calling someone mediocre is not a compliment in any language

p.p.s. keep up the good work Naughty Captain