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- Sep 28, 2017
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Don't sweat it man, you've done an excelent job in the game. A warning should be enough, if anyone complains after that, it's their problem and no one else's.
- May 22, 2020
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Wow! I finally got around to playing the latest update. What can I even say? I played as a dick and ended up with some brutal and unexpected consequences. Very nice. I love it! You have taken this so far from the norm that I was caught completely off guard, Captain my Naughty Captain. Kudos for that. I love that in books and films. Why not in my VNs as well.
Guess I'm back to working on a save for all occasions. Have I mentioned that I think this project is brilliant? I hope I didn't leave that out.
Hints and threats? Meh. My only threat would be that I would like to kick your ass if you don't keep making this amazing game. I am pretty lazy and will not follow through with that threat and might not even be able to. So, please continue you as you are.
Guess I'm back to working on a save for all occasions. Have I mentioned that I think this project is brilliant? I hope I didn't leave that out.
Hints and threats? Meh. My only threat would be that I would like to kick your ass if you don't keep making this amazing game. I am pretty lazy and will not follow through with that threat and might not even be able to. So, please continue you as you are.
I agree that giving the second response here is counterintuitive. But, it's only required if you don't give the "I don't accept it" response at the end of day 4. And, talking to Cassie instead of messing around with her on day 4 is supposed to be required, in order for the good ending to be possible (it's a bug that it's not right now.) Which means you'd always get the option of giving the "I don't accept it" response. And, in that dialog, it does seem to be the better response if you want both of them. So, from a gameplay perspective, there is a clearer route available.
As for the "does it make sense" perspective, I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle. Requiring one of these 2 responses aren't about how they make Cassie feel, but how they make the MC feel. They're required in order to get the "I choose neither" option. They establish that the MC does not want to choose one over the other, he'd rather be the one to suffer in order for Eve and Cassie to stay together.
In the first case, the conversation for "simply tell her" implies that you're doing that in order to end things with Cassie and continue with Eve. The one for "difficult to handle", she suggests choosing Cassie and MC says "fuck it, I'd choose neither before that". Basically, in both conversations, the first choice is the MC saying "I'll choose you and Cassie will handle it" and the second is "if you don't let me choose you, I'll choose neither and be the one that's alone."
And, telling Cassie you'd rather choose neither, to hurt Eve and her less, is what leads her to the conclusion that that still wouldn't work, everyone would end up hating everyone, and there's only one better solution. Because MC never says he wants both, he doesn't even consider it a possibility, that's all Cassie's idea.
Edit: note, I do think the gameplay side of getting the good ending is still a tiny bit tough, like there's no clear indicator that anything you did was massively wrong or would lead to such a drastically different result. I am not easily emotionally disturbed so it didn't bother me, but I understand it could bother some. My only idea for solving that would be, at the start of day 5, if you're doomed to the bad ending, get a trigger warning screen saying "play on at your own risk or go back and try to fix things if you don't wanna see it." But, well, Bioshock didn't give you any warning before your character beat an old man to death in first person, nor did Dragon Age Origins before any of the multiple things there, so telling people to suck it up it's a game and sometimes they'll shock you is also a valid response in my opinion.
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There's Oscar Six's walkthrough mod, Zoey Raven has decided to not continue making the written walkthrough.
If he received death treats here, let's forget about the law, i think there're rules to ban those who throw death threats to dev and members of this site, so he just need to complain about it to the administrator of this site, IF the threats didn't come from here, then why complain about it here.
Gamers are like patron, treat your patron well and you get more of them, treat them bad and they leave you, so he need to tell those people to buzz off and those who are civilised and well mannered, he sould be more "civilised" to them.
He doesn't need to like what he read, when it is civilised, but at less he sould listen to those peoples who play his game, after all, we're a good source of feed back and info that he might use on a next game, don't you think so ?
- Jul 1, 2017
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I agree we can be good source of feedback but when people keep whining about the bad ending at some point I think he gets it, no need to add wood into the fire. He listened to the feedback and added a warning at the start of the game in 0.5.1 (This game is not for the faint of heart. You have been warned). I think he always kept things civil, saying that he's tired of hearing about this is understandable and not insulting in any way.
There are also been bad feedback in my opinion, people saying it was uncalled for and unpredictable didn't pay attention, you learn of your sister almost getting drug raped in the first few minutes of playing, you know the twins are still buzzing aroung and a threat so the moment Cassie walked out of the house I had a bad feeling. Though tragic this ending make sense, we all have been cuddled by harem games where you stick your dick everywhere without consequence so it's nice to see a game taking cheating seriously once in a while.
Sorry for the long post, it had been bubbling up for a few days and I had to vent.
My favourite character is Han.
"haaaan, haan, haaaan"
"haaaan, haan, haaaan"
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Who was the dev speaking to in that post? The civilized or the uncivilized? I am quite certain they know who they are. I am quite certain you and I have no idea.
Is the dev is not taking feedback?
We know that is not the issue. The dev is obviously reading the feedback and responding. Responding publicly, here, to the 'feedback' that isn't feedback at all, but rather demands for the dev change the artistic choices made in the dev's own project to suit those demands, some even apparently backed by threats.Wouldn't the "adult" and "mature" thing to do as a player be to consider the viewpoint/perspective of the developer and just keep playing?
Maybe stop playing and delete the game, perhaps making a note that you don't like the routes this developer creates. Thanks, but no thanks, not made for me.
Then leave reasonable feedback here about what made it difficult to handle, using spoiler tags and such, allowing the developer to read it and understand the player's perspective. The player can then appreciate the time and effort made by the developer and move on and find a game more inline with one's desired outcomes?Oh ho ho... that last one is risky though... one may have to expose themselves to yet another arbitrary set of moral and ethical standards that may not align with their own.
However, what you are writing here is exactly the 'friendly' advice on morality and ethics the dev was talking about.
And you made the comment knowing that he explicitly said he didn't care. So what is the goal here?
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A bit late to the party, yet welcome!
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Hate route made me feel like an asshole.
I went back to the main menu when the game started to go the whole mile and I was like "No, I can't do this. This is way too mean to me."
Yeah, I backed out and tried the love / love path. Felt right.
I went back to the main menu when the game started to go the whole mile and I was like "No, I can't do this. This is way too mean to me."
Yeah, I backed out and tried the love / love path. Felt right.
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Try the love/ love path but the "bad ending" is too heart breaking damn, can you be on love path with both girls and it not get the "bad ending". i don't want to cry when i should be nutting.
there is a good route path for the Love/Love path, it doesnt have to end in tears
Need to have 70 Love points for both before the friend catches you in the Morning
Speak to Cassie in the Lingerie store instead of Eve
then, the following day, either while at Cassie's place or at night, you have to tell Eve that you can choose none.
first option is at Cassie's place
"This morning was very difficult to handle."
The second option is at night, in Eve's bedroom
"I don’t accept it."
You need just one of those two.
That same night, while with Cassie, talk with her instead of kissing her
then on the morning, while in her room you have to tell her : "I will tell you everything / I would choose no-one / Apologize
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