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zmfinga

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Fair enough, but its not a 1:1 comparison imo. "porngames" are made to fap to, its their primary purpose, the gameplay should be made to make the fapping better, not gatekeep it behind math-problems and vauge complex quests :>

girl have NTR sex behind ur back in cut-scenes... gameplay is walking her home and the sprite-girl drips white dots behind her. Then the gameplay adds to the hotness.
Not, in the evening period, go find 18 wood and 12 metal, talk to them man in the morning etc.

Maybe im to harsh, i do like the game, but you get best fap-value from the recollection room, if you played it once.
In terms of the gatekeep, I personally don't feel like math problems was an issue. Especially when you've done it once or twice; they are not random and you can just eyeball these things. However for the Beach Bar minigame, that one is a lot more longer and difficult; I can agree it might need some finetuning.

I can also agree that too many tedious quests doesn't help the game, and there definitely needs to be some balancing required for necessary conditions to progress; I feel like the dev already accommodated for that by allowing you to buy those items from the store? The money collected isn't being used anywhere else so that feels like a compromise in skipping those tedious tasks, on top of the phone to pass time, recollection room providing detailed guide, and no time limit.

I do feel though that the dev is covering all bases by explaining the world in full for those interested in it, and the skip features for those that want to skip most of that. In the interest of keeping things logical and avoiding huge jumps (visiting the character at night and the scene starts out as morning), I feel like it's not a huge compromise.

I do agree with the sentiment though that the recollection room requires some optimization for replaying whole scenes, maybe when the dev has extra breathing room to reoptimize it.
 

IDontGetWomen

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I think the issue still persists; recollection rooms do not include everything except CG animations; other than the story, you are also missing out the pixel art, the relevant game mechanics, and the context that comes with these CG animations. You are interacting with the game when these things happen, so it's just isn't possible at the moment that any full save / recollection room saves represent the work fully. That's why it's not recommended, it's not a CG viewer.

I can compare it to having a full save for games like Karryn's Prison or Lord Goblin (or any H-game that isn't just a CG viewer); you still have to actually play the game in order to experience the sex scenes fully.
Yea but if I want to just see the CG clearly I'm not worried about the context or any other little mini stuff I'm missing lol. All that's good and well, the game is too long and every single other RPGM games have consistent full saves being updated as the game goes on.

It should be people's choice if they want to just use full saves because they are doing it knowing they are missing all that other stuff, but clearly... they are okay with it.
 

zmfinga

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Yea but if I want to just see the CG clearly I'm not worried about the context or any other little mini stuff I'm missing lol. All that's good and well, the game is too long and every single other RPGM games have consistent full saves being updated as the game goes on.

It should be people's choice if they want to just use full saves because they are doing it knowing they are missing all that other stuff, but clearly... they are okay with it.
I agree that the length of the game is unique and at some point people just want to see the CGs instead, and IIRC the saves up to the recent releases are always provided by the dev so it's there, I won't speak for others but for me personally it's just out of respect for the dev when he requested not to.

You can try using MTool to activate those scenes in the gallery if you want, though I'm not sure how well it works.
 

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Fair enough, but its not a 1:1 comparison imo. "porngames" are made to fap to, its their primary purpose, the gameplay should be made to make the fapping better, not gatekeep it behind math-problems and vauge complex quests :>

girl have NTR sex behind ur back in cut-scenes... gameplay is walking her home and the sprite-girl drips white dots behind her. Then the gameplay adds to the hotness.
Not, in the evening period, go find 18 wood and 12 metal, talk to them man in the morning etc.

Maybe im to harsh, i do like the game, but you get best fap-value from the recollection room, if you played it once.
I would say a porn game is not necessarily something you play with the sole goal of getting off, porn itself does an easier job at that. It's just a game that incorporates pornographic elements by definition and that game can take any shape or form. Of course SSP definitely does its job very well when it comes to sexy and arousing scenarios but what I was trying to get at is that the game is also a tad bit more enjoyable when following the story. Another game that does this very well is Dragon Conqueror because it had a very deep and well thought out story.
 

cyan995

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Wow I just got here and this looks peak. It gives me similar vibes to boy hero ken which I really like. Hidden sex while the male lead is oblivious is my favourite and the art looks nice.
 

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how is the beach storyline going? I am planning to hold at least until the game locks you into the beach route. has it reached that point yet?
 

zmfinga

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how is the beach storyline going? I am planning to hold at least until the game locks you into the beach route. has it reached that point yet?
Latest release is a long arc, with the next one being the last long arc for some time (if it goes to plan); these 2 arcs are planned to finish the introduction of all the main antagonists, minigames, plotline, and locations for this route which is why its causing a lot of delays and works (should be done on Sunday earliest, next Wednesday latest).

I don't remember but I'll edit this post to see whether it has locked you into the beach route in the first long arc, I don't think so and it will most likely lock you into the next one for sure.
 

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I prefer it to too short but damn some of these sex scenes are long. Feel like the dialogue, art, or animations aren't interesting enough or start becoming a little repetitive for the length.
 
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illusetsuna

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Need help I'm stuck here i think I bricked my save cus clicking in the trash can takes me to the hotel for some reason. This is after I've put up all the posters.

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I want to play this game, but someone on Discord said that during the gameplay, there is absolutely no relationship or love visible between the MC and the FMC. he said that after the game's intro, their relationship is strictly limited to just hellos, goodbyes, and small talk; for that reason, it isn't Netorare, because the developer doesn't allow for any relationship or romantic dialogue, event between the MC and the FMC
How accurate is that?
 

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I want to play this game, but someone on Discord said that during the gameplay, there is absolutely no relationship or love visible between the MC and the FMC. he said that after the game's intro, their relationship is strictly limited to just hellos, goodbyes, and small talk; for that reason, it isn't Netorare, because the developer doesn't allow for any relationship or romantic dialogue, event between the MC and the FMC
How accurate is that?
I think it is accurate. but I would also say that person must be some closeted cuck. or something to complain about something that happens in 80% of NTR games.

Developers will not waste time, money and resources in a loving relationship that bears no scenes or fruits. Their love is already implied. a lot of the NTR scenes are them going out on 'Dates'. most of the interactions happen within the context of the NTR and their love you see trough scenes where she is being taken advantage of or simply cheating.

I think that user wants one of those " NTR avoidable" games that end up being bad NTR and bad vanilla.
 
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I want to play this game, but someone on Discord said that during the gameplay, there is absolutely no relationship or love visible between the MC and the FMC. he said that after the game's intro, their relationship is strictly limited to just hellos, goodbyes, and small talk; for that reason, it isn't Netorare, because the developer doesn't allow for any relationship or romantic dialogue, event between the MC and the FMC
How accurate is that?
Since they're in a "relationship", even if this is something which is limited. It is NTR, NTR is also used for childhood friends. Yes, it doesn't go deep into the relationship between MC and FMC, but the simple fact that they're "together", as small as it is, is enough to call it NTR
 
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I think it is accurate. but I would also say that person must be some closeted cuck. or something to complain about something that happens in 80% of NTR games.

Developers will not waste time, money and resources in a loving relationship that bears no scenes or fruits. Their love is already implied. a lot of the NTR scenes are them going out on 'Dates'. most of the interactions happen within the context of the NTR and their love you see trough scenes where she is being taken advantage of or simply cheating.

I think that user wants one of those " NTR avoidable" games that end up being bad NTR and bad vanilla.
Since they're in a "relationship", even if this is something which is limited. It is NTR, NTR is also used for childhood friends. Yes, it doesn't go deep into the relationship between MC and FMC, but the simple fact that they're "together", as small as it is, is enough to call it NTR
Personally, I don't need sex scenes between the MC and FMC; maybe one or two in certain situations would be fine, but depending on the story, we might not even need those
But what is very important to me is that the relationship between the MC and FMC being excellent, and that we see this in the dialogue and events between them--like hanging out, going on dates, sleeping, eating, etc. I want this relationship to be great and very romantic right up until the corruption very rises. This is something that major NTR developers like Elf--who closed their studio 9 years ago--always adhered to
When you don't see this love during the gameplay, it feels like you've already lost both sexually and emotionally right from the start. That kills the excitement for me

So, do you think I should start this game, or is it not for me? Thanks
 
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