RPGM Summer Stolen Paradise [v0.31 Public] [7RKStudio]

[NuarisRia]

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hahaha, Loved that sprite... thats a man the Abyss really gazed back at.
poor fool in denial till the end


just finish the game and.....
Goddamn... what a fkng twist!!!!
i never expected things to go full insane and like THAT level of apeshit insanity
Absolutely loved it!

Man.......that epilogue and those last revelations.........jfc.
Masaru what an asshole piece of fkng shit...... damn..... what an absolute prick.
but... regarding his motivations to do THAT with the stove at the end, i guess that when he realized that he got absolutely played by Dan and was going to loose everything he cared about, he picked the desition to live, just to get revenge on Dan.... but then Dan well.... decided to join Shion in hell.
i wonder how Masaru would react after knowing that Dan died and now he remain alive all burned , lost everything and became the brand new cult riding bike..... fitting ending i must say.


Now about Shion....
her development was unexpected but good; i really liked her character during this route specially at the end, she was completely broken just as Dan, that decided to just gave up accepting her fate with that awfull end..... and then.... massive prick Masaru gives her hope and a reason to live again, to forget and love and try again with heroic music and shit............ just to throw her to the furnace at the end.... holy shit what an awfull fucking way to die in pure despair and burned down to crisp, an absolutely fitting end for her too.
I saw some comments about her, about how she could have been saved after all the events.... i.. honestly dont think so, that girl was a complete trainwreck bad desition after bad desition. Now.. Masaru did used some drugs on her to rise her libido, but only two times right? and then she just couldnt be away from being fucked. In the beach and the RV acts she wasnt drugged... i think

and then Erica....
poor damned Erica... not much to say, i guess she is the only character that one can genuinly feel awfull about right? was she just an innocent girl destroyed and used by everyone just to end.... that way in a fucking garbage can


Thats an exciting ending! fucking bravo
what a great Cultist horror game.

holy shit and that was just the first route!?!?
... i still laugh every time i see the main menu image of Shion all cute as if this game wasnt dark asf.

apologies for the over the top excitement
i just dont remember the last time i played an H game with such a good immersive story...


so many questions...

1 -whats the deal with the last recipe of Dandelion Cookies? why at the end? and why it make Masaru change his pov on her
2 - So Masaru keep fucking around with Shion because he had to break Dan will, mind and soul to open that strange dark brotherhood door right?

3 - whats behind the door?
4 - and what the fuck was Lilly?? why suddenly after the festival the player can see her face, and also Dan face on that picture
5 - Why was dan possesed? and by who?


6 - And if Masaru wasnt a cultist then what was his deal? why completely ruin Dan's life?


7 - why did the cultists wanted Shion?
8 - What about the detective? and why thers no clinics in town or in the city??
9 - Whats the deal with the bar underground and its classic hentai pleasure drug laboratory??
10 - what about that shrine and door inside a cave can we open it with a statue??

11 - i cant see the ending after you burn the bakery and go back to your room to sleep.... i just see lilly, two texts from her and then nothing just the eerie music. is that normal? its not programmed yet?

12 - Who was the person the cultists were talking about, on the after events with the shrine maiden girl, the person that planted the Pink memories on Dan inside the bakery at the end??


and yesterday i though i was playing just another NTR game..... so naive.

yes, now i understand why fans dont share the save file
absolutely understandable.

 

[zmfinga]

1 -whats the deal with the last recipe of Dandelion Cookies? why at the end? and why it make Masaru change his pov on her
2 - So Masaru keep fucking around with Shion because he had to break Dan will, mind and soul to open that strange dark brotherhood door right?

3 - whats behind the door?
4 - and what the fuck was Lilly?? why suddenly after the festival the player can see her face, and also Dan face on that picture
5 - Why was dan possesed? and by who?


6 - And if Masaru wasnt a cultist then what was his deal? why completely ruin Dan's life?


7 - why did the cultists wanted Shion?
8 - What about the detective? and why thers no clinics in town or in the city??
9 - Whats the deal with the bar underground and its classic hentai pleasure drug laboratory??
10 - what about that shrine and door inside a cave can we open it with a statue??

11 - i cant see the ending after you burn the bakery and go back to your room to sleep.... i just see lilly, two texts from her and then nothing just the eerie music. is that normal? its not programmed yet?

12 - Who was the person the cultists were talking about, on the after events with the shrine maiden girl, the person that planted the Pink memories on Dan inside the bakery at the end??

I'm glad you got to experience the true cinema! I loved how satisfying the ending, but also still has enough strings left unattached to foreshadow more aspects to this story.

For some of the questions, I think I can answer:


1. whats the deal with the last recipe of Dandelion Cookies? why at the end? and why it make Masaru change his pov on her
If you recall in the Mansion arc, Yearl (blue maid) was someone dear to Masaru and her secret recipe to give to her beloved was the Dandelion Cookies, and I think from this we know now it was Masaru who taught her that. Masaru teaching Shion the recipe shows how important she was to him now irregardless of his main objective, and so he really wanted her to live on to a better life rather than leave her broken from his corruption.

2. So Masaru keep fucking around with Shion because he had to break Dan will, mind and soul to open that strange dark brotherhood door right?
Correct! And it's clear that it isn't Shion that needs to be corrupted to break that door down, but to mentally break MC as you saw the door being kept shut after MC receiving the second wind on the situation. That was why in the ending Masaru just continued to fuck Shion while MC is watching them, to finally break him.

9. Whats the deal with the bar underground and its classic hentai pleasure drug laboratory??
The hidden basement under the Bar is meant to be a front for the Kinchou gang and the Rich Elite to smuggle the Fairie Water into the town instead of taking from the Mountains. The lab definitely had some Epstein vibes since it's just smuggling orphans to be butlers or maids for prostitution, and disposing them when completely broken.

11. i cant see the ending after you burn the bakery and go back to your room to sleep.... i just see lilly, two texts from her and then nothing just the eerie music. Is that normal? its not programmed yet?
I actually never tested that but I don't think that supposed to happen, it should only be MC going to Shion's room to the mirror for the extended ending. So most likely a bug.


The rest of the questions is something we still do not know and can only speculate. I think most of the supernatural plot will happen in the Mayor route, so we still have a long way to go.

Either way, glad you loved it!

 

["WindDX "]

Now about Shion....

I saw some comments about her, about how she could have been saved after all the events.... i.. honestly dont think so, that girl was a complete trainwreck bad desition after bad desition. Now.. Masaru did used some drugs on her to rise her libido, but only two times right? and then she just couldnt be away from being fucked. In the beach and the RV acts she wasnt drugged... i think

People really thought Shion could be "saved" by that point? Lol. Lmao even. Everything that happened to her by that point in time, she did to herself by being violently stupid. I said before that she was a victim, given she was drugged and coerced the first time. I said "At first". After a point she was an eager participant. By the end, when she got her wits about her, even Shion herself didn't consider herself worthy of saving or of staying with Dan. The way she tried, in a very fucked up and stupid manner, to make Dan move on was dumb too. Which is what... leads to that ending when Dan stops giving zero fucks and goes balls to the wall. And by that point, to her credit imo, she doesn't argue, beg, excuse or even try to save herself. Just accepts the fire. That bit gave me a tiny, insignificant sliver of respect for her again. That she actually embraced she had fucked up massively, unlike hundreds of other NTR heroines. It's incredibly dark to be honest. Game's amazing. I said before that I hate the characters on a personal level, Masaru and Shion in particular, but I mean it as a compliment lmao. As characters likely designed to be hated, they did an amazing job. The game and its story are amazing and I really wanna see how it all keeps going forward. Hell, I even wanna see the Happy Pure Love ending just to unravel the mystery of what the hell is going on in that damn town lol. Shit's got me invested

 

[Kaholimo]

any full save for this update?

 

[Ion.TemUS]

hm... no former bully....
shame

 

[NuarisRia]

I'm glad you got to experience the true cinema! I loved how satisfying the ending, but also still has enough strings left unattached to foreshadow more aspects to this story.

For some of the questions, I think I can answer:

1. thats..... i dont want to say sad but... but maybe distressing, because of how much of an evil hypocrite Masaru is, he completely fuck her mind and absolutely ruin her till she dies. Im glad he "lost everything" on that ending

2. oooh that is interesting, so even after all that Dan wasnt completely broken till the very end and still we dont know if that actually opened the door.


9. i wonder which route is gonna dig deeper into that plotline. idk why but this remind me of the festival part, there's a guy thats looks exactly like dan and says when spoken to that he and his girlfriend just arrived at the island for the festivity and when you talk to his girlfriend i think the girl is getting "Ericae'd"


11. Oh okay okay thanks!


if Masaru route was crazy asf , the Mayor route is gonna be insane. Do you know if Dev has plans to make more routes besides Mayor, Beach Bar guy and Masaru?
im extremely curious about the slums ,the school and the casino.

 

[NuarisRia]

People really thought Shion could be "saved" by that point? Lol. Lmao even. Everything that happened to her by that point in time, she did to herself by being violently stupid. I said before that she was a victim, given she was drugged and coerced the first time. I said "At first". After a point she was an eager participant. By the end, when she got her wits about her, even Shion herself didn't consider herself worthy of saving or of staying with Dan. The way she tried, in a very fucked up and stupid manner, to make Dan move on was dumb too. Which is what... leads to that ending when Dan stops giving zero fucks and goes balls to the wall. And by that point, to her credit imo, she doesn't argue, beg, excuse or even try to save herself. Just accepts the fire. That bit gave me a tiny, insignificant sliver of respect for her again. That she actually embraced she had fucked up massively, unlike hundreds of other NTR heroines. It's incredibly dark to be honest. Game's amazing. I said before that I hate the characters on a personal level, Masaru and Shion in particular, but I mean it as a compliment lmao. As characters likely designed to be hated, they did an amazing job. The game and its story are amazing and I really wanna see how it all keeps going forward. Hell, I even wanna see the Happy Pure Love ending just to unravel the mystery of what the hell is going on in that damn town lol. Shit's got me invested

Well i do think she was a victim during most of this route. Now, that she could be saved.... no, at least i dont think so.

Sometimes a victim of Masaru manipulation, when he often appeared and say the right words or use the "awfull luck" of Dan with Erica, and Shion lack of wits and maturity to understand what Masaru was doing to her and to "convince" her "to forget" about Dan by having sex. (bakery and RV arc)

Somtimes a victim of her own INCREDIBLE stupid desitions. (festival arc)

Some times victim of a drug like the Pink water from the mountain, the strange heart cake and the alcohol and manipulation at the bar (bakery and hotel arc)

and sometimes just victim of her own cravings, desires and lack of sexual experiences when she was becoming or already became an addict. (rv and beach arc)

Except... during the ending events.


Shion fall was a pure example of the "Hapyness can't last forever".... and in this love case in the form of "that stranger that arrived and says the right things to that person at the right time"
God i love that phrase.

Then Masaru take advantage and starts using their shared sexual experiences to create that sexual bond with her, thats why Shion never stopped truly loving Dan because the story never show us nice or loving shared experiences with Masaru just insane raw fucking, and i do believe she was trying to do better and then at the end to amend everything she did... yes, by doing the most idiotic and stupid thing to do... "fuck the brains out of Masaru so Dan can hate me and stop loving me.... and then ending her life" thats just.... complete despair to a level that Junko Enoshima would be fucking proud.


i think Shion is a great character because as you said it "That she actually embraced she had fucked up massively, unlike hundreds of other NTR heroines. It's incredibly dark to be honest." exactly she is different and actually well written, she knew the entire time that she was falling deeper into an abyss of no return, that she was hurting Dan even Erica told her several times, and still she choose pleasure over love till giving up to her dark end.

Seeing that great ending of Dan mind broken to the point of embracing and becoming his fear , anxiety and insecurity of loosing again his loved one, was awfully sad and hit real hard specially... after seeing Shion response to that.... showing she not really cared by still cheating in the worse way after seeing Dan like that.

Now...... A real dark and fcked NTR event would be seen what Shion was doing during those days.... when Dan was broken, depressed and locked in his room dying. We all know what Shion was doing during those days... but actually being able to see that on a side to side screen real time event... ooof that would be peak amazing Netorare in its most corrupted form..
not just by the situation but as the whole thing that lead them to that point.


i dont know, maybe im just talking out my ass.
But i really enjoyed playing this story, thats why i enjoy a good NTR story, the situations and emotions it creates for the couple and how it destroys both of their minds making them do things they never though on doing.

Anyway, not being confrontational just sharing thoughts about this great story.

 

["WindDX "]

Well i do think she was a victim during most of this route. Now, that she could be saved.... no, at least i dont think so.

Sometimes a victim of Masaru manipulation, when he often appeared and say the right words or use the "awfull luck" of Dan with Erica, and Shion lack of wits and maturity to understand what Masaru was doing to her and to "convince" her "to forget" about Dan by having sex. (bakery and RV arc)

Somtimes a victim of her own INCREDIBLE stupid desitions. (festival arc)

Some times victim of a drug like the Pink water from the mountain, the strange heart cake and the alcohol and manipulation at the bar (bakery and hotel arc)

and sometimes just victim of her own cravings, desires and lack of sexual experiences when she was becoming or already became an addict. (rv and beach arc)

Except... during the ending events.


Shion fall was a pure example of the "Hapyness can't last forever".... and in this love case in the form of "that stranger that arrived and says the right things to that person at the right time"
God i love that phrase.

Then Masaru take advantage and starts using their shared sexual experiences to create that sexual bond with her, thats why Shion never stopped truly loving Dan because the story never show us nice or loving shared experiences with Masaru just insane raw fucking, and i do believe she was trying to do better and then at the end to amend everything she did... yes, by doing the most idiotic and stupid thing to do... "fuck the brains out of Masaru so Dan can hate me and stop loving me.... and then ending her life" thats just.... complete despair to a level that Junko Enoshima would be fucking proud.


i think Shion is a great character because as you said it "That she actually embraced she had fucked up massively, unlike hundreds of other NTR heroines. It's incredibly dark to be honest." exactly she is different and actually well written, she knew the entire time that she was falling deeper into an abyss of no return, that she was hurting Dan even Erica told her several times, and still she choose pleasure over love till giving up to her dark end.

Seeing that great ending of Dan mind broken to the point of embracing and becoming his fear , anxiety and insecurity of loosing again his loved one, was awfully sad and hit real hard specially... after seeing Shion response to that.... showing she not really cared by still cheating in the worse way after seeing Dan like that.

Now...... A real dark and fcked NTR event would be seen what Shion was doing during those days.... when Dan was broken, depressed and locked in his room dying. We all know what Shion was doing during those days... but actually being able to see that on a side to side screen real time event... ooof that would be peak amazing Netorare in its most corrupted form..
not just by the situation but as the whole thing that lead them to that point.


i dont know, maybe im just talking out my ass.
But i really enjoyed playing this story, thats why i enjoy a good NTR story, the situations and emotions it creates for the couple and how it destroys both of their minds making them do things they never though on doing.

Anyway, not being confrontational just sharing thoughts about this great story.

Oh no, it's cool. I'm not trying to sound confrontational either lol. Just sharing my thoughts too. I think it's all great. Game's amazing and the story too. If my comment wasn't clear, I just don't have the best opinion of Shion is all. I genuinely find her infuriatingly stupid. And that's great. She's a great character in that regard, playing the role of the naive, overly trusting idiot city girl.

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Anyway I'll stop yapping. Too much wall of text. Sorry, I usually get carried away when talking about game lore or read too much into it lol.

 

[NuarisRia]

Oh no, it's cool. I'm not trying to sound confrontational either lol. Just sharing my thoughts too. I think it's all great. Game's amazing and the story too. If my comment wasn't clear, I just don't have the best opinion of Shion is all. I genuinely find her infuriatingly stupid. And that's great. She's a great character in that regard, playing the role of the naive, overly trusting idiot city girl.

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Anyway I'll stop yapping. Too much wall of text. Sorry, I usually get carried away when talking about game lore or read too much into it lol.

No no , thank you for the reply, i appreciate these insights on this game story
And is great reading others thoughts on the characters and the story

I also agree on the endings. they need keep the feel of losing the loved one and in a shocking way to keep the essence of Netorare.

i forgot that she told Masaru that if he help her destroying Dan love she will remain with him to be fucked everyday....
thats some disgusting copping in my opinion, yeah Ending game Shion is...totally the worst. And that is great

 

[AmornS7]

after the RV Event

 

[zmfinga]

if Masaru route was crazy asf , the Mayor route is gonna be insane. Do you know if Dev has plans to make more routes besides Mayor, Beach Bar guy and Masaru?
im extremely curious about the slums ,the school and the casino.

I think if the school, slums or the casino isn't used in the Beach Bar route, it is for sure the Mayor's since BB route is to appeal to a different concept of NTR (multiple antagonists instead of one), so being in the slums or casino selling ass seems to be a likely concept

Outside of those locations, I do know that in the description, a true love route may happen after these routes are done. Some people theorize these routes are like the 'seven hells' where MC goes through in order to fully appreciate Shion in the true love route, and avoid lusting for other characters like how he did with Erica. Another theory was like the village being cursed and the main antagonists are stuck in some time loop; in order to escape this neverending reality they needed to corrupt MC's mind and Shion is their easy way out, and after seeing their demise in each route, they could come together and work with MC (instead of scheming alone) to escape/prevent the festival from happening. which can be the Mayor's route or True Love route.

Also I feel like in the extended ending, Shion does know she is irredeemable and trying to convince Masaru to fuck her in the Bakery one last time was key for her to just straight up show MC should break up with her, as you saw how paranoid MC became by rarely listening to her but always watching her and Masaru. I do think though she wasn't going to stay with Masaru after that and actually kill herself using the weapon she sharpened in the mirror because like WindDX said, she cannot be happy without MC. It has the Romeo and Juliet vibes here.

 

[Knight6797]

I think if the school, slums or the casino isn't used in the Beach Bar route, it is for sure the Mayor's since BB route is to appeal to a different concept of NTR (multiple antagonists instead of one), so being in the slums or casino selling ass seems to be a likely concept

Outside of those locations, I do know that in the description, a true love route may happen after these routes are done. Some people theorize these routes are like the 'seven hells' where MC goes through in order to fully appreciate Shion in the true love route, and avoid lusting for other characters like how he did with Erica. Another theory was like the village being cursed and the main antagonists are stuck in some time loop; in order to escape this neverending reality they needed to corrupt MC's mind and Shion is their easy way out, and after seeing their demise in each route, they could come together and work with MC (instead of scheming alone) to escape/prevent the festival from happening. which can be the Mayor's route or True Love route.

Also I feel like in the extended ending, Shion does know she is irredeemable and trying to convince Masaru to fuck her in the Bakery one last time was key for her to just straight up show MC should break up with her, as you saw how paranoid MC became by rarely listening to her but always watching her and Masaru. I do think though she wasn't going to stay with Masaru after that and actually kill herself using the weapon she sharpened in the mirror because like WindDX said, she cannot be happy without MC. It has the Romeo and Juliet vibes here.

I lowkey forgot the school existed but yea mayor route seems reasonable. Perhaps the mayor route will include shion doing errands or smth like that, could be very interesting. I can already tell from the few dialogues we have with him that this mf is even more devious than the other antagonists we've had so far.

 

[zmfinga]

I lowkey forgot the school existed but yea mayor route seems reasonable. Perhaps the mayor route will include shion doing errands or smth like that, could be very interesting. I can already tell from the few dialogues we have with him that this mf is even more devious than the other antagonists we've had so far.

Considering you see him multiple times accompanying the childhood friend (twin tail lady) at multiple instances in the Masaru route, I definitely agree he might just be the big bad boss of it all; although I don't actually know if this route will have a different taste of NTR like how we got Masaru (1 antagonist) and Jords (1+ antagonist), my knowledge of variety of NTR is quite noobish.

Also, I feel like he has a big part in maintaining the festival and the sorta 'feeding' that red serpent god the town's lust, which could be why they experimented that faerie water and imported it to the village. We don't really know the full story as a lot of the supernatural / info outside the route is still omitted.

Also while perusing some info about this within the files, I came across an old video for the Mayor route most likely:

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[Gouryo]

Am i the only one getting a very buggy version of the game ?

I mean for example just after playing less than 1 h :

- I cant see the discussion between shion and the guy from the beach bar. I can just see them but nothing about what they are saying.
- No idea how to harvest cause when I try to mini-game, 1 try on 10, I can hit button and it works, other time I just did wrong when trying to hit the 1rst button (and no idea why).
- So dev thought it was a good idea to use arrows to move around city, but left click to confirm action ? Why not using wasd ? And why I have to click on yellow circle with left click to change area (even when my character is ON the yellow circle) ???
- And sometimes when interacting when elements, nothing happens, Im luck stuck like if something was writing on screen but nothing happened (interacting with computer, trying to harvest some specific plants,...).

I mean after like 30 min trying to play this game, its barely playable at all !!! Maybe dev just focused about end game and thats good, but with such bugs at the beginning, it doesnt help new players to enjoy this game at all !!

 

[zmfinga]

Am i the only one getting a very buggy version of the game ?

I mean for example just after playing less than 1 h :

- I cant see the discussion between shion and the guy from the beach bar. I can just see them but nothing about what they are saying.
- No idea how to harvest cause when I try to mini-game, 1 try on 10, I can hit button and it works, other time I just did wrong when trying to hit the 1rst button (and no idea why).
- So dev thought it was a good idea to use arrows to move around city, but left click to confirm action ? Why not using wasd ? And why I have to click on yellow circle with left click to change area (even when my character is ON the yellow circle) ???
- And sometimes when interacting when elements, nothing happens, Im luck stuck like if something was writing on screen but nothing happened (interacting with computer, trying to harvest some specific plants,...).

I mean after like 30 min trying to play this game, its barely playable at all !!! Maybe dev just focused about end game and thats good, but with such bugs at the beginning, it doesnt help new players to enjoy this game at all !!

Controls wise, usually RPGM games you can use the left-click for interactions and right-click to show/hide the conversation window, and additionally, the spacebar and enter button also acts as a left-click. It might need to be stated in the introduction window, but that's the usual controls for most RPGM games.

Minigames wise, you should only go for either the Bakery or the Beach Bar routes, since those are the only ones that are made with intentions.The Harvesting minigame isn't being worked on yet and is there as a placeholder.

I think just for advice, you should follow the guide provided by Zellemate (in the description), especially when it comes to games under development. It's not at all finished or polished yet, so there's locations, minigames, NPCs that are still in development.

 

[NuarisRia]

Am i the only one getting a very buggy version of the game ?

I mean for example just after playing less than 1 h :

- I cant see the discussion between shion and the guy from the beach bar. I can just see them but nothing about what they are saying.
- No idea how to harvest cause when I try to mini-game, 1 try on 10, I can hit button and it works, other time I just did wrong when trying to hit the 1rst button (and no idea why).
- So dev thought it was a good idea to use arrows to move around city, but left click to confirm action ? Why not using wasd ? And why I have to click on yellow circle with left click to change area (even when my character is ON the yellow circle) ???
- And sometimes when interacting when elements, nothing happens, Im luck stuck like if something was writing on screen but nothing happened (interacting with computer, trying to harvest some specific plants,...).

I mean after like 30 min trying to play this game, its barely playable at all !!! Maybe dev just focused about end game and thats good, but with such bugs at the beginning, it doesnt help new players to enjoy this game at all !!

dude......... for real thats the weirdest and most whiny complains about game controls on a rpgm game...

I played and finish the entire game in 2 days and NEVER once find a bug or difficulty with controls and minigames....
EXCEEEPT!! with the damn volleyball mf game... i hated that shit, but never to make me ragequit and whine about it.

if you find the harvesting minigame and using arrows and enter extremely mindbreaking then........ i dont think the game is at fault

 

[NuarisRia]

Outside of those locations, I do know that in the description, a true love route may happen after these routes are done. Some people theorize these routes are like the 'seven hells' where MC goes through in order to fully appreciate Shion in the true love route, and avoid lusting for other characters like how he did with Erica. Another theory was like the village being cursed and the main antagonists are stuck in some time loop; in order to escape this neverending reality they needed to corrupt MC's mind and Shion is their easy way out, and after seeing their demise in each route, they could come together and work with MC (instead of scheming alone) to escape/prevent the festival from happening. which can be the Mayor's route or True Love route.

Thats very interesting
it would be nice seeing some of those concepts put into the game..
.....

So i decided to rewatch the long ending...
and i feel like a total monkey and a fool getting mindfucked time after time by this game and by how many details i didnt saw the first time i watch the ending.

Those last memories and visions never happend? were fabricated by someone??... so Shion never fucked Masaru after the festival again?
which doesnt mean she wasnt a complete piece of shit and an idiot at that point ,since Reiko says that they didnt had the chance to keep fucking because of Dan watching them all the time... Still Dan was manipulated by someone else.

And Reiko can fabricate and manipulate visions too?.....
but those final ones inside the bakery werent made by her..
Then Reiko points that Someone used Masuro scheme against ?Shion?? (or at least i think they refer to shion) to plant a device in secret inside the bakery. meaning someone else have its own agenda but has to be related to the cult to use those powers.

Man i swear this game story and writting is on a whole total different level than many of the games and VN's around here.
haha I swear i will stop dropping massive spoilers, this was my last input on this amazing game

Thank you all for the replies

 

[zmfinga]

Thats very interesting
it would be nice seeing some of those concepts put into the game..
.....

So i decided to rewatch the long ending...
and i feel like a total monkey and a fool getting mindfucked time after time by this game and by how many details i didnt saw the first time i watch the ending.

Those last memories and visions never happend? were fabricated by someone??... so Shion never fucked Masaru after the festival again?
which doesnt mean she wasnt a complete piece of shit and an idiot at that point ,since Reiko says that they didnt had the chance to keep fucking because of Dan watching them all the time... Still Dan was manipulated by someone else.

And Reiko can fabricate and manipulate visions too?.....
but those final ones inside the bakery werent made by her..
Then Reiko points that Someone used Masuro scheme against ?Shion?? (or at least i think they refer to shion) to plant a device in secret inside the bakery. meaning someone else have its own agenda but has to be related to the cult to use those powers.

Man i swear this game story and writting is on a whole total different level than many of the games and VN's around here.
haha I swear i will stop dropping massive spoilers, this was my last input on this amazing game

Thank you all for the replies

There's a lot of hidden meanings and details and I definitely missed a huge chunk first time round, I only knew some of it by either replaying some scenes to help with corrupted saves, or just to answer some questions around it; so you aren't alone if you didn't catch everything first time round.

As for the visions in the extended ending: I believe that Shion did fuck Masaru behind MC's back, despite MC doing his best to prevent them in rooms together, as you see those visions keep appearing; it's within your discretion whether or not you want to see it and believe in MC's hope until the very end.

I don't actually remember what Reiko said about planting something in the Bakery, but I can probably infer that it was MC's doing or his request from them to set up that trap against Masaru as an insurance which led to that extended ending.

Sometimes the detailing can be overwhelming; I found myself a bit lost at times in the Mansion arc which had another true ending there if you haven't experienced it No sex just pure horror honestly

Also don't worry about yapping a lot, the dev does lurk around and reads everything, he did mention he really appreciates the discussion of his work.

 

[7RKguy]

Just one clarification (it's too short to make a long post on patreon or anywhere) but since the discussion is happening here,

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Maybe the misunderstanding is because how much info there is or how its not executed as well. It could be because of the engine or how I framed it but I thought to clarify that.

 

[Martinsuki]

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hahaha, Loved that sprite... thats a man the Abyss really gazed back at.
poor fool in denial till the end


just finish the game and.....
Goddamn... what a fkng twist!!!!
i never expected things to go full insane and like THAT level of apeshit insanity
Absolutely loved it!

Man.......that epilogue and those last revelations.........jfc.
Masaru what an asshole piece of fkng shit...... damn..... what an absolute prick.
but... regarding his motivations to do THAT with the stove at the end, i guess that when he realized that he got absolutely played by Dan and was going to loose everything he cared about, he picked the desition to live, just to get revenge on Dan.... but then Dan well.... decided to join Shion in hell.
i wonder how Masaru would react after knowing that Dan died and now he remain alive all burned , lost everything and became the brand new cult riding bike..... fitting ending i must say.


Now about Shion....
her development was unexpected but good; i really liked her character during this route specially at the end, she was completely broken just as Dan, that decided to just gave up accepting her fate with that awfull end..... and then.... massive prick Masaru gives her hope and a reason to live again, to forget and love and try again with heroic music and shit............ just to throw her to the furnace at the end.... holy shit what an awfull fucking way to die in pure despair and burned down to crisp, an absolutely fitting end for her too.
I saw some comments about her, about how she could have been saved after all the events.... i.. honestly dont think so, that girl was a complete trainwreck bad desition after bad desition. Now.. Masaru did used some drugs on her to rise her libido, but only two times right? and then she just couldnt be away from being fucked. In the beach and the RV acts she wasnt drugged... i think

and then Erica....
poor damned Erica... not much to say, i guess she is the only character that one can genuinly feel awfull about right? was she just an innocent girl destroyed and used by everyone just to end.... that way in a fucking garbage can


Thats an exciting ending! fucking bravo
what a great Cultist horror game.

holy shit and that was just the first route!?!?
... i still laugh every time i see the main menu image of Shion all cute as if this game wasnt dark asf.

apologies for the over the top excitement
i just dont remember the last time i played an H game with such a good immersive story...


so many questions...

1 -whats the deal with the last recipe of Dandelion Cookies? why at the end? and why it make Masaru change his pov on her
2 - So Masaru keep fucking around with Shion because he had to break Dan will, mind and soul to open that strange dark brotherhood door right?

3 - whats behind the door?
4 - and what the fuck was Lilly?? why suddenly after the festival the player can see her face, and also Dan face on that picture
5 - Why was dan possesed? and by who?


6 - And if Masaru wasnt a cultist then what was his deal? why completely ruin Dan's life?


7 - why did the cultists wanted Shion?
8 - What about the detective? and why thers no clinics in town or in the city??
9 - Whats the deal with the bar underground and its classic hentai pleasure drug laboratory??
10 - what about that shrine and door inside a cave can we open it with a statue??

11 - i cant see the ending after you burn the bakery and go back to your room to sleep.... i just see lilly, two texts from her and then nothing just the eerie music. is that normal? its not programmed yet?

12 - Who was the person the cultists were talking about, on the after events with the shrine maiden girl, the person that planted the Pink memories on Dan inside the bakery at the end??


and yesterday i though i was playing just another NTR game..... so naive.

yes, now i understand why fans dont share the save file
absolutely understandable.

what do you mean by understand why fans dont share the save file? what's so wrong about it?