Summer Vacation! Scrambled [ ILLGAMES ] サマバケ！すくらんぶる

[lvl100ultima]

Can I safely apply HF patches onto Better Repack R1? Will there be an R2?

Yes you can, it won't break the copy, will there be an R2? not yet but they are working on it

 

[stachelzelle]

Well unfortunately AA2 Unlimited isn't vanilla games, it's a collection of mods build, updated and maintained over the years. It's the love of the community that create the AA2 Unlimited. We don't see much love for Samabake yet because it's still new and modder still stuck with IL2CPP that slowdown mod creation.

I know ... but the base of AA2 was already better at release than SVS is now in my opinion. The modders did the rest to keep it alive and make something way better out of it. I have my doubts SVS will get the same attention ...

The telescoping dick is just a pragmatic approach from Illgames (and most Illusion games of the past). Because the end result is censored they don't bother creating a real penetrating dick out of fear of clipping dick geometry out of the girls body (which will ruin immersion REAL fast lol). Yeah we can call out them as lazy because some of their competitor can do it with real dick geometry penetration. If I recall correctly there are modders that add real dick geometry to Illusion games, CMIIW.

Of course they (illgames) are lazy and not very smart, they could do so much better with this games outside of JP. The dick issue for example is not that complicated to fix, they just need to add another bone to the telescoping one and link only the orientation to it ... then link the dick to that second one instead of the telescoping, problem solved. I bet most of the players in JP also install uncensors if they are available ...

 

[Arashi Blitz]

Regarding the long ass graphical and such talk: To me, graphically it looks cute and smooth. Which I really like (and this is coming from someone that adores how AG3, AA and AA2 look). I can tolerate the "not using resources to animate the penetration" because we aren't supposed to see it non-mosaic according to japanese laws. However, I can tolerate it IF the effort that should go animating it is going to another thing, not just saying "we don't need to animate it so we won't even bother redirecting said time to another thing". Not sure if I'm expressing myself well enough.

I know ... but the base of AA2 was already better at release than SVS is now in my opinion. The modders did the rest to keep it alive and make something way better out of it. I have my doubts SVS will get the same attention ...

Sure it has some stuff that could use fixing here and there, but sadly that's the way games release nowadays; be it AAA or other games.
Then again, it's hard to say if SVS will "get the same attention" as you say... For now at least. Keep in mind the game released in August I think, so it's still a really new game. Modders are still figuring stuff and ILLUSI- I mean, ILLGAMES has to still release content and such.
Hopefully we see some performance changes. Me personally, I hope they change the momentum characters have... I find it a bit horrendous. Or at least hoping the modders can make the character you control not be so slow when going from stop to moving/turning the other way.

 

[Purple_Heart]

Yes you can, it won't break the copy, will there be an R2? not yet but they are working on it

As far as I know "they" is just one guy who is busy with making his own game. If he didn't update repack yet, I don't see him updating it anytime soon. And even if he does end up updating it soon enough, what difference would it have compared to hf patch? Would that difference be worth the wait? Considering low amount of mods this game have, I bet difference would be almost non-existent. So, if anyone is still waiting for updated repack(like I've been doing until recently) I suggest downloading the repack now and applying hf patch on top of it.

 

[LOVETech Games]

This is gorgeous, a must play!
Kind of remind me Neko Series but a bit more cel shading, not in a bad way of course, love it!

 

[SiTWulf]

I think I explained it in my previous post, I have no complaints about the graphics, it seems fine to me and although it is simple I personally prefer a more anime tone than a realistic one like previous Illusion games.

But the problem with the game's AI seems completely unbearable to me (This is something very objective and I deeply respect those who liked it, because there are colors for all tastes).
I do remember playing AA2 more than using its character creator, but in this case I am using the character creator more than the game itself.

In my case, I think I could not play AA2 again even though the AI has been improved thanks to AA2U, but graphically it would seem like a loss in terms of character quality.
If they could port AA2U to SVS it would seem like a very good thing to me, although I doubt it could be done in a simple way.

Regarding the topic you mentioned about "Pubic Hair" I really don't care about that detail at all, the important thing is not always the very detailed graphics, in my case the most important thing is that the game has an interesting AI that makes you think that those characters are real people (Even if you know they are not).

If I only wanted "Sex" with the characters I would go for HC that seems to be more focused on that, but in this game, it only seems like an attempt to recover the honor and respect they achieved with AA2 but in a way that they did not achieve.

What happened to Illusion with their last game RoomGirl (I think it was this one) they tried to make a SIMS style game, but they did not even manage to match the first of these games that came out in 2002.

Illusion has serious problems with the AI of its characters, although they try and try, I do not think they will be able to achieve it.

I would certainly love to be able to say that I loved the game, but that would not only be lying to you, but also to myself.

I don't see much activity regarding Mods, some don't even update them like the "Slider Unlock", I think that many people who took the game with enthusiasm and desire to have fun are putting it aside.
Even (in my opinion) the fact that STN is not releasing new BR is for a reason, maybe I'm confused, but this has never happened since I've known STN, who even released new BR from the demos of the character creators, and now we are in R1 since the game came out without any news.

(Note: I am still using version 1.02 of the game. Waiting for a new version of BR.)


I apologize if something is written wrong, I am using Google Translator. (English is not my native language)
Please understand that this is only my opinion and point of view and I do not intend or try to convince anyone to think as I do.

 

[Reaper791]

I think I explained it in my previous post, I have no complaints about the graphics, it seems fine to me and although it is simple I personally prefer a more anime tone than a realistic one like previous Illusion games.

But the problem with the game's AI seems completely unbearable to me (This is something very objective and I deeply respect those who liked it, because there are colors for all tastes).
I do remember playing AA2 more than using its character creator, but in this case I am using the character creator more than the game itself.

In my case, I think I could not play AA2 again even though the AI has been improved thanks to AA2U, but graphically it would seem like a loss in terms of character quality.
If they could port AA2U to SVS it would seem like a very good thing to me, although I doubt it could be done in a simple way.

Regarding the topic you mentioned about "Pubic Hair" I really don't care about that detail at all, the important thing is not always the very detailed graphics, in my case the most important thing is that the game has an interesting AI that makes you think that those characters are real people (Even if you know they are not).

If I only wanted "Sex" with the characters I would go for HC that seems to be more focused on that, but in this game, it only seems like an attempt to recover the honor and respect they achieved with AA2 but in a way that they did not achieve.

What happened to Illusion with their last game RoomGirl (I think it was this one) they tried to make a SIMS style game, but they did not even manage to match the first of these games that came out in 2002.

Illusion has serious problems with the AI of its characters, although they try and try, I do not think they will be able to achieve it.

I would certainly love to be able to say that I loved the game, but that would not only be lying to you, but also to myself.

I don't see much activity regarding Mods, some don't even update them like the "Slider Unlock", I think that many people who took the game with enthusiasm and desire to have fun are putting it aside.
Even (in my opinion) the fact that STN is not releasing new BR is for a reason, maybe I'm confused, but this has never happened since I've known STN, who even released new BR from the demos of the character creators, and now we are in R1 since the game came out without any news.

(Note: I am still using version 1.02 of the game. Waiting for a new version of BR.)


I apologize if something is written wrong, I am using Google Translator. (English is not my native language)
Please understand that this is only my opinion and point of view and I do not intend or try to convince anyone to think as I do.

When you wait another BR guys in discord already have most of AA (the first one) maps. And add H animations not a big problem this time, just need someone who works with it

 

[acezero99]

But the problem with the game's AI seems completely unbearable to me

Specifically with what though? I can understand the repeated interruptions or the default characters being loose enough to slide down a bar stool... But in my experience, a handful of custom characters with decent virtues and traits are more dynamic than even AA2U AI.

 

[mepew]

Specifically with what though? I can understand the repeated interruptions or the default characters being loose enough to slide down a bar stool... But in my experience, a handful of custom characters with decent virtues and traits are more dynamic than even AA2U AI.

I'm not that person, but I'll try to answer briefly.

Characters react to someone else's gender in the toilet/locker room/shower. Characters can react differently to the other gender in this room depending on their mood, virtues, character traits, and relationship level. Characters can deliberately set someone up and take another character there to create "drama" (perhaps this is simply not taken into account by the game, but it looks like a gimmick). In the shower, characters are naked and when they are seen naked, they make a unique, slightly variable and multi-factorial remark (the same with the locker room and toilet, and each room has different reactions). In the locker room, characters can change clothes and you can see them changing clothes in real time, that is, for example, they can be caught half-dressed. Characters go to the shower after physical education, some characters wash off sweat there, some characters hide from other characters in the shower or toilet. There are many other things that I can't remember...

Locations are not just a background, but have their own specifics. The city is shops and the subway. Shops of three types. Each shop also has its own small distinguishing features, these are not exactly 3 dummies with different names. The subway is the passage home. Every morning begins with some characters already at school, some are still riding the subway, some can skip the first lesson (it all depends on the character traits and type). Characters can invite each other to go to class together. Characters lose their bag after such a trip, so you can see who is technically already "at school". During classes, characters can invite someone to skip in the infirmary (which has its own mechanics) or in one of the shops. Characters have lunch breaks and depending on some conditions, they may want to have a snack in the cafeteria / on the roof / in the yard, and also invite another character. In the evenings, characters tend to invite other characters to go shopping, someone may invite you to study at home, someone may invite you to "study" at home. Characters go home in the evenings and to do this, they first have to use the locker room, change into a school uniform and pick up a bag. The bag shows that the character is ready to go home. Characters say goodbye to you when they go home and forbid actions with them. Characters can invite you to go home together and here, too, there are different answers depending on the relationship.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to describe briefly here how big the difference in depth is. When we talk about AI in general, it does not mean that AI is only when two characters run up to each other and reproduce a dialogue that satisfies only 2-3 conditions. If we talk about AA2, then a huge part of the dialogues are varied with a dozen necessary conditions for certain dialogues. In addition, there are much more reasons for the characters' dialogues in AA2. SVS is an almost completely empty game on interaction.

I have probably given less than 5% of the different, small features that fill the game, make it lively and deep. You kind of run and participate in many activities, which meanwhile overlap each other and create situations and mini-stories. And what about SVS? This would be my counter question.

(hahahaha now a clown will come and write that I chose the way of explaining the example using a toilet. And that it's stupid to love one game more than another for this. It's funny, right? Let's laugh.... Oh, how I adore low-grade humor and low-grade taste of people)

 

[battlebrother]

See, you are entirely correct about the difference in depth and interactions, situations AA2 could produce compared to this game but I am having difficulty endorsing anything you say because of the condescending, arrogant undertone you infuse into your words (one could even say passive aggresive). Maybe curb that a little bit, it is not a good trait to have.

 

[edocrimson]

I have a few questions, would really appriciate answers
1. Can you make NPC that are lovers to break up with one another without needing to control them and make them break up manually?
2. Im aware of Blackmail feature in this game, how do you trigger it?
3. How do you make up with someone that you beat up? i accidentally beat up the beach lifeguard girl because i thought "comfront" means like talk to her about something seriously but no its "comfront" as in "throwing hands" lmaoo and now i literally cannot interact with her at all without her going mad
4. In order for there to be 3P (MMF) do you need to be close with the guy as well? or do you need to "confess" to him well?
5. Can you make your lover to cheat? (Netorase)

 

[kazetsura]

I have a few questions, would really appriciate answers
1. Can you make NPC that are lovers to break up with one another without needing to control them and make them break up manually?
2. Im aware of Blackmail feature in this game, how do you trigger it?
3. How do you make up with someone that you beat up? i accidentally beat up the beach lifeguard girl because i thought "comfront" means like talk to her about something seriously but no its "comfront" as in "throwing hands" lmaoo and now i literally cannot interact with her at all without her going mad
4. In order for there to be 3P (MMF) do you need to be close with the guy as well? or do you need to "confess" to him well?
5. Can you make your lover to cheat? (Netorase)

1. yes
2. have evil and schemer trait and interrupt someone kissing/masturbating in public
3.just spam praise or everyday topic
4. yes maxed out relationships on all 3 involved characters
5. if her virtue is normal - very low then she'll do it regardless, even have sex in public while you're present

 

[acezero99]

I'm not that person, but I'll try to answer briefly.

It's fine, as long as it's not vague answers... also what part of that was brief? why you do this to me?

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TLDR; Some good points, but I still think SVS is an alright improvement in comparison to AA2 for now- with more room for improvement.

 

[edocrimson]

1. yes
2. have evil and schemer trait and interrupt someone kissing/masturbating in public
3.just spam praise or everyday topic
4. yes maxed out relationships on all 3 involved characters
5. if her virtue is normal - very low then she'll do it regardless, even have sex in public while you're present

Thank you very much for the reply, though i hope you don't mind further question
1. I see, but how? like specifically? do i spread bad rumors between them? i thought of doing so, but they don't seem to believe it
2. and theres no other factor that determines it? like those two traits is all thats necessary to blackmail NPCs?
3. i tried that, i don't think its working, well efficiently at least the percentage keeps being 0% which means she always reject it i ended up making another run lol
4. maxed out as in, dating the guy also then?
5. what factors affect virtue status? or is it pre deterimined per each character?
p.s
6. just making sure, it seems like you can't change/add/delete characters mid playthrough?
7. can NPC die/be killed? i remember reading somewhere about it

 

[kazetsura]

Thank you very much for the reply, though i hope you don't mind further question
1. I see, but how? like specifically? do i spread bad rumors between them? i thought of doing so, but they don't seem to believe it
2. and theres no other factor that determines it? like those two traits is all thats necessary to blackmail NPCs?
3. i tried that, i don't think its working, well efficiently at least the percentage keeps being 0% which means she always reject it i ended up making another run lol
4. maxed out as in, dating the guy also then?
5. what factors affect virtue status? or is it pre deterimined per each character?
p.s
6. just making sure, it seems like you can't change/add/delete characters mid playthrough?
7. can NPC die/be killed? i remember reading somewhere about it

1. spreading bad rumours and also having a friend status should help with the percentage
2. it'll be better if the one you're blackmailing has the M trait
3. that's bad, delete and readd her should reset it
4. yes the guy also, all three should be in a relationship with each other
5. it's predetermined, you can edit their virtues in the character creator however
6. you can, simply click characters next to save.load, then select the character you want to edit/remove, you can't change the roster from 12 to 24 or vice versa tho, you can only add, remove, or edit their outfits
7. npcs that "dies" just gets deleted from the roster, no cuffs and flowers

 

[SiTWulf]

Specifically with what though? I can understand the repeated interruptions or the default characters being loose enough to slide down a bar stool... But in my experience, a handful of custom characters with decent virtues and traits are more dynamic than even AA2U AI.

Please read my post about the problem.
https://f95zone.to/threads/summer-v...mes-samabake-sukuranburu.212368/post-15062306

 

[Purple_Heart]

Has anyone figured out what each interaction does yet? It seems a mystery to me. I've interacted with a girl who had 36% chance of accepting confession. Then talked to her about erotic stuff(she had 100% chance of accepting it) and even though conversation ended positively her chance of accepting confession went down to 19%. Wtf?

 

[PixelLewd]

Stop trolling autistic people. Please let's try to keep this thread simple and informative.

Look man, its not intentional, it just sorta happens I guess. But either way, y'all are some fine peeps in this thread.

Now lets hope ILLUSI- I mean, ILLGames actually make SVS a great game, and that this isn't just really a repeat of their cycle with a new brand/face

 

[acezero99]

Please read my post about the problem.
https://f95zone.to/threads/summer-v...mes-samabake-sukuranburu.212368/post-15062306

Oh. My bad, I already talked about that one before. Disregard my question.

 

[fucktastic]

Some 1 got links to reaper and white set for svs? i don't want to download the entire repack and look for the files inside it.