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It doesn't matter, when Eva drops you off to meet Bella, Mila will be sued. And it seems that this meeting with Bella is happening in every possible path. This is probably a bug, or Mila will be sued unconditionally after the rework of the second chapter.
I would argue that DPC became popular because he's delivered a damn fine and popular game, irregardless of his promises. He also had the pedigree of having completed a game, despite how much that game rubbed many people up the wrong way.
Simply comparing render counts is rather disingenuous. DPC has the setup and work flow that works for him. Personally (as a trained photographer), I think his overall render image quality is MUCH lower than Ocean's. If I were to fault Ocean, he tries to be a visual perfectionist. I cannot comment further because I don't know DPC's rendering setup or if he codes everything himself.
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I have a completely different theory. Nika and Nami are not related to Zane. They are descendants of Zoe and smone not Willy. Zoe and Nami have even more similarities than Daphne. This would explain Katie's interest and why she wants them to know the truth, but Najiko is trying to hide it. This would start a fight over the inheritance with Holgerson, who stole Zoe's inheritance after her death.
When people build theories about Zane, for some reason everyone remembers only Willie, Katie and Leah, but for some reason they forget Katerina, Scarlet and suddenly Helen. It would be funny if Nika was... not only the brother of the same Aya but also his uncle.But I personally don't think that Nika and Nami are related to Zane for many reasons. Firstly, Najiko will never be able to replace their real mother. In addition, there are a lot of questions about Naji herself. Both Nika and Nami are simply examples of upbringing, culture, etc. Especially Nami. And only 5 years later Najiko thought about a psychologist. Just think, permanent fights, antisociality, depression, etc. Mother of the year. Secondly, the lack of a father’s role has a very strong impact. No one taught him how to fight, or how to drive a car, or even how to hammer a nail. I’m already silent that he’s a walking disaster when it comes to girls. In addition, even trivially, the Zayns would have taught him martial arts from the cradle and people like Sai would be like kindergarteners for Nick now. And third. Money. Maybe they don’t starve, but they live quite poorly. Nami saved up for a bunch of months for a camera, Nika, let alone his own car, can’t even afford a license. Nadjiko works until she’s half to death. Strangers literally pay for Nika, starting from clothes to a pass to the tennis club. Seriously, would such a rich clan allow its offspring to walk around like a homeless person in cast-offs? Even theoretically, if he were a child of incest, they could hide the truth and raise him like someone found. And one more thing It seems less to me that he is Leia’s child. Firstly, Leia doesn’t care at all about the opinions of the ants. She would have raised him herself. Secondly, Leia’s descendant himself would have looked at everyone as tools. I just can’t even imagine that Leia’s descendant would babysit with someone of Victoria’s level, and even more call her or Mila friend.
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WOW - Amazing!!
What is your next trick with finding something in the Beta that needs work before the Summers Gone CH 5 Full and Steam release?
Was it that the galleries are not complete?
Perhaps there are spelling errors and grammar issues.
Please - don't keep us in suspense - it is Killing us...
If this is The most important thing you took away from this release, something you just Had to share with everyone on this thread... you might want to consider forensic accounting as a career path.
You were looking for career advise - right??
This is actually on your CV - right?
As for me - I'm just here to enjoy a great AVN.
Cheers!!
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MC met or didn't meet Bella, only "us" and "me" are different:
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I meant by "didn't meet Bella" is there is a possibility that we don't jump to the BellchenSunrise5x0 label
But it seems we always go there.
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Yes, all playthroughs go through that label...it's unavoidable. It is initiated when MC goes home (which everyone does):I meant by "didn't meet Bella" is there is a possibility that we don't jump to the BellchenSunrise5x0 label
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Ah...the good old turn about. You see, stalkers never fear stalkers. THAT was the point. I'm guessing you already know that, don't you? Seeing as you are creeping on other peoples profiles. I've never once felt the need to go to someone else's profile to creep around for things like how much they may have posted. It's creepy. But, you do you boo.So, as I said before:
What did you like about the release?
What are you hoping for in the future?
Do you have any actual feedback about Summers Gone - either the entire AVN until now or the most recent release?
As to activity:
Since I have no reason to be worried about stalkers... I don't hide my activity....
I won't ask what you could have Possibly posted that has you worried about stalkers when you have posted 70 times in ~3.5 years with this user id.
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That's my point, too. Just wondering if the whole Holgersons pressing charges on Mila thing makes sense. It makes sense as much as the gun pointing at Marla scene made sense ( = no sense at all).
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Again, please use spoilers bud, some folks that read the thread haven't played the update yet.
Mila getting charges is explained early in the process and makes sense (imho).
Mila having any info to rat doesn't (only the dev can answer to this, there's nothing in the VN to go off of).
I enjoyed the hell out of last update. I'm faithful to Bella, but Zara got me interested too. I completely despise that ugly shithead Nami. I wish there was option to tell her to fuck off.
what do you mean by faithful? did you fuck anyone with the MC to make that statement?
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Finally had time to start a new run as I wished to see all the small tweaks that invariably will happen as Ocean polishes this up for Steam.
It's the little things that maybe I missed on my last play through that really warmed me up to the changes. Ayua going into NIka's room, and warning him, as well as showing how bad ass she is was really quite touching. Nika's dissacociation seems more clearly defined early on - he lacks empathy, and when Ayua and Nami turn on him, he realises he's an asshole - logically, but not emotionally. A lot of his manipulative ways are because he lacks empathy to place himself in another context, yet he still defends Mila to Bella at every opportunity it seems. So the comment Mila makes about his mind being fractured seems very appropriate. As the becomes more social, he loses track of things as well, he's so focused on managing /coping that he either hyperfocused or goes blank. I think at least some of the things he forgets are written intentionally, to show that he doesn't remember things that he doesn't value.
I'm warming up to Vic's character more. In fact, every single main character other than Nadia (just from lack of scenes in her case) seemed to develop some depth of character in a good way. Zara is a bundle of joy and impulsive now we're on her good side. THe whay she looks at Nika when he praised her was such a wholesome moment. Nia, well, being along in that space... performing for the panopticon, having an absence of close friends since Summer disappeared, I really hope that Ocean will write paths where you can be supportive even if you decide to follow a single love interest. I don't like the idea that choosing one person as a love interest means that you'll focus solely on that person. I imagine there will be plenty of dealing with Nami's insecurities while romancing Bella, so maybe I'm worried for nothing. Sasha is the most interesting to me because she is about as antisocial as Nika, and she's a deeply conflicted person who hides her emotions too well. There's no point discussing Bella, it's pretty explanatory. Her unguarded expressions when no one is looking says it all. The way she can't stay away or stop calling Nika to do their course work ...maybe she'll decide course work means handcuffing him next time he's over to study in season 2...
Nika finally seems like a consistent character - he's no longer half trenchcoat half dinner jacket. I wonder if the cinematic at the start with Vic brough back any memories of what happened to Summer - the way Vic has the same erasers, and the way Nika implies he feels he needs her as well; I do wonder if Ocean is intending there to be metaphors linking Vic's progress towards Nika with Nika relinquishing memories of Summer, regardless of who he romances.
I also spent a lot of time looking for people in the background. Might do another playthrough to see if Katie appears on campus, now we know her look in this timeframe.
The bookclub scene and Detective Cerill are probably the two most interesting developments. Noji being quite prudish while having a friend in Emilia is interesting, and all the tie ins with the WiaB generation are starting to show their influence. I forget who mentioned the idea that Noji might be Miru's sister, that's a very interesting theory that does enable Noji to know all these people. It'll be interesting to see how the interactions with Katie develop the back story. I'm not going to guess about Nika and Nami's parents, I'm pretty sure Ocean's going to keep it ambigious for quite a while yet.
The biggest inconsistencies are the spelling and grammar mistakes - I kinda have the feeling some of the continuity mistakes (like Nika appearing to forget Sonya) will change once the last part of the rework gets dropped with 5 full. I also noticed that some of the changed renders haven't yet been implemented, some things have just been cut without their continuity restored. I still managed to work out what the scenes implied. Less continuity problems than the last version.
And for all the naysayers who hate opinions so much: playing a beta and complaining about inconsistencies? Priceless trolling, go back to doomscrolling politics on social media. That's also something in beta you can argue about, except it's real time. Imagine all the fun you can have.
I enjoyed my escape from reality in any regards.
It's the little things that maybe I missed on my last play through that really warmed me up to the changes. Ayua going into NIka's room, and warning him, as well as showing how bad ass she is was really quite touching. Nika's dissacociation seems more clearly defined early on - he lacks empathy, and when Ayua and Nami turn on him, he realises he's an asshole - logically, but not emotionally. A lot of his manipulative ways are because he lacks empathy to place himself in another context, yet he still defends Mila to Bella at every opportunity it seems. So the comment Mila makes about his mind being fractured seems very appropriate. As the becomes more social, he loses track of things as well, he's so focused on managing /coping that he either hyperfocused or goes blank. I think at least some of the things he forgets are written intentionally, to show that he doesn't remember things that he doesn't value.
I'm warming up to Vic's character more. In fact, every single main character other than Nadia (just from lack of scenes in her case) seemed to develop some depth of character in a good way. Zara is a bundle of joy and impulsive now we're on her good side. THe whay she looks at Nika when he praised her was such a wholesome moment. Nia, well, being along in that space... performing for the panopticon, having an absence of close friends since Summer disappeared, I really hope that Ocean will write paths where you can be supportive even if you decide to follow a single love interest. I don't like the idea that choosing one person as a love interest means that you'll focus solely on that person. I imagine there will be plenty of dealing with Nami's insecurities while romancing Bella, so maybe I'm worried for nothing. Sasha is the most interesting to me because she is about as antisocial as Nika, and she's a deeply conflicted person who hides her emotions too well. There's no point discussing Bella, it's pretty explanatory. Her unguarded expressions when no one is looking says it all. The way she can't stay away or stop calling Nika to do their course work ...maybe she'll decide course work means handcuffing him next time he's over to study in season 2...
Nika finally seems like a consistent character - he's no longer half trenchcoat half dinner jacket. I wonder if the cinematic at the start with Vic brough back any memories of what happened to Summer - the way Vic has the same erasers, and the way Nika implies he feels he needs her as well; I do wonder if Ocean is intending there to be metaphors linking Vic's progress towards Nika with Nika relinquishing memories of Summer, regardless of who he romances.
I also spent a lot of time looking for people in the background. Might do another playthrough to see if Katie appears on campus, now we know her look in this timeframe.
The bookclub scene and Detective Cerill are probably the two most interesting developments. Noji being quite prudish while having a friend in Emilia is interesting, and all the tie ins with the WiaB generation are starting to show their influence. I forget who mentioned the idea that Noji might be Miru's sister, that's a very interesting theory that does enable Noji to know all these people. It'll be interesting to see how the interactions with Katie develop the back story. I'm not going to guess about Nika and Nami's parents, I'm pretty sure Ocean's going to keep it ambigious for quite a while yet.
The biggest inconsistencies are the spelling and grammar mistakes - I kinda have the feeling some of the continuity mistakes (like Nika appearing to forget Sonya) will change once the last part of the rework gets dropped with 5 full. I also noticed that some of the changed renders haven't yet been implemented, some things have just been cut without their continuity restored. I still managed to work out what the scenes implied. Less continuity problems than the last version.
And for all the naysayers who hate opinions so much: playing a beta and complaining about inconsistencies? Priceless trolling, go back to doomscrolling politics on social media. That's also something in beta you can argue about, except it's real time. Imagine all the fun you can have.
I enjoyed my escape from reality in any regards.
Nice pickups of Bella not liking bikes: what if it was Nicks' motorcycle accident that caused this? A long coma is plausible, but I don't think her sister is a sleeping beauty that has spent decades unconscious. How many children in comas would survive into adulthood? But I guess it will be a mystery for a while - Bella's flashbacks do imply it was a long time in the past, otherwise here sister would probably have been nearby while she was being bullied. But I can't imagine someone growing up asleep for that long. THey way Bella was so casual with Nika on the phone while sitting at her sister's bedside, shows it's not very recent, as does Amber's fairly lighthearted manner when Nika mentions Bella's sister - I would think Amber would have more than an "oh" to say about Nika triggering Bella over Amber's coma daughter.
I'm guessing the blueballing scene will disappear for Steam. There is literally no need for it for a self contained release as season one won't have any sex, and it would set the wrong tone for something that is trying to avoid the NSFW tag. After all, G rated shows don't need an explanation of why they are safe for people like Bookclub KellySeason 1 is intended to reach a broad audience.
Meushi gave a great summary one post above yours.
We believe that Season 2 will have more lewd scenes and sex.
My theory - the MC/Amber trip to the cabin where he suffered some major level of trauma will start the process to heal him from the psychological trauma that seriously limits his ability to get excited for other women (he did tell Nami that he can get excited when he thinks about Summer - which of course no other woman wants to hear if he is with her).
If my theory holds, then the MC is going to start to have a sexual response to the various women around him.
This could actually be comical in some ways - like the MC getting a boner in class while giving a presentation, while lying in Amber's lap while they are in a therapy session or imagine him getting major wood while talking with the cougars at the next book club meeting - the possibilities for humor and opening the door for one off sexy time with a few cougars are Endless!!.
Ocean has All kinds of ways to play up the MC once the genie is 'uncorked'
So I see Season 2 (chapters 6 - 10) being far more than rated 13+.
Believe me - it is hard to wait for the sexy time, but I absolutely believe that it will be worth it And that it will fit the story rather than trend towards Pornhub shorts.
I suspect (how I would do it if it was me) that the tags for Summers Gone will change once we start getting sexy time. If a chapter adds HJ and BJ, then I think that those tags will be added once the content includes that.
I also believe that the opening screen (blueball warning) will go away or be modified once sexy time arrives.
If a great story without sexy time is not your thing, I recommend checking back in and looking at tags/reading commentary once CH 6/6.5 is out.
There are plenty of other AVNs on F95 that have good stories and sexy time - I'm enjoying a number of them now.
Cheers!!
As an example my top sub is Such a Sharp Pain. Same quality renders as this but with lolis and incest (story is ok, mostly a soap-opera vibe). It's not here anymore due to Ketzal stopping the censorship and decensor patches but the way I see it loli devs get so much shit and difficulty from payment processors (and even the law in some insane countries that tries to regulate what artists can draw) if anyone needs support it's them.And yet you are still paying with your time to be here and complain.
Time is a currency. If you don't believe this now, give it a few decades and you will!
BTW - I am on Subscribestar - I'm one of those 'suckers' and I can think of few VNs I'd rather invest in than Summers Gone.
Cheers!!