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Hey guys, when are they gonna put "no sexual content" in the tags? :unsure:

I mean it, not only would save time of the people who don t give a F about the story without porn, if not, because you will get people who actually wants the story and don t care about the sex.
 
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Hey guys, when are they gonna put "no sexual content" in the tags? :unsure:

I mean it, not only would save time of the people who don t give a F about the story without porn, if not, because you will get people who actually wants the story and don t care about the sex.

Just a recomendation . But just as I posted this i saw that they removed the "no sexual content" tag , why?? i mean in the latest updates page
Strongly depends on your personal and local definition of sexual content. There's plenty of tits & ass on display, just no porn.
And I honestly have no idea why Bella feels the need to go topless in the desert over and over but she does it, and that alone would get the game a "Mature" rating in the US.
 

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Strongly depends on your personal and local definition of sexual content. There's plenty of tits & ass on display, just no porn.
And I honestly have no idea why Bella feels the need to go topless in the desert over and over but she does it, and that alone would get the game a "Mature" rating in the US.
She does that because she's horny and wants to make out. They are alone, sexually exited. It's not really that strange
 

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There are not much information where did they live before. The only thing Nami said:
"We went to a high school way in the west."

And we know that MC has (had?) an uncle who taught him to play basketball. Who is his uncle? Does this mean that MC knew his birth parents? Where is his uncle now? How are Noji and uncle related? There are no answer :HideThePain:
Yeah i don't know but i don't believe that bit with MC's uncle, i think he was straight up lying about that.

It just came out of nowhere and it was never mentioned before, either that or maybe Ocean plans something, maybe more will be revealed in the future, he keeps everything in mystery and reveals things bit by bit as story goes on.
 
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Hey guys, when are they gonna put "no sexual content" in the tags? :unsure:

I mean it, not only would save time of the people who don t give a F about the story without porn, if not, because you will get people who actually wants the story and don t care about the sex.
Doesn't the tag apply for the games with no sexual content planned whatsoever? it's not the case for SG because the game will have sexual content.
 

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But Ocean has done a really good job to hide this cracks in the wall in the blurry background and polish the plates on the wall.

I have no clue, but it looks line there are not many livingroom environments in the DAZ3d store. The one used here is so hard overused in a gazillions of games that I have lost count how often in have seen it in other games
That's definitely one thing Ocean is clever at doing and vastly improving on and that's being able to dress the sets as well as hide them through the use of lighting, camera angles and Point of Focus. We've all seen the living room, kitchen, lecture hall, etc in many games, but the later chapters are using rooms and assets that you can't quite place because of clever set dressing. There's still a few cracks here and there, but getting better
 
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That's definitely one thing Ocean is clever at doing and vastly improving on and that's being able to dress the sets as well as hide them through the use of lighting, camera angles and Point of Focus. We've all seen the living room, kitchen, lecture hall, etc in many games, but the later chapters are using rooms and assets that you can't quite place because of clever set dressing. There's still a few cracks here and there, but getting better
Just you wait until he's fluid in Blender and can make completely original sets, models and assets.
The wait between updates will be 84 years! :HideThePain:
 

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Nothing is ever directly stated about Bella's sisters' fate - other than implying something very bad happened, and, of course, she was never around and not to be talked about. It's a nice plot twist at the end of Ch 5, but (like many TV series) it requires some suspension of disbelief since no one (i.e. other students etc at ZPR, Amber) let slip to the MC or Nami that Bella has a comatose sister...
Ya it seems unlikely that nobody would ask Bella how the sister is doing, unless they aren't aware she's still alive. It's very much a daytime soap opera trope for her to be comatose. Summer being in that bed would've been the most cliche plot twist.
 

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Ya it seems unlikely that nobody would ask Bella how the sister is doing, unless they aren't aware she's still alive. It's very much a daytime soap opera trope for her to be comatose. Summer being in that bed would've been the most cliche plot twist.
Dunno, her friends and most people in school know her and her reputation. Her friends would know this is a topic that hurt her and they wouldn't tell a completely newcomer (Nika) about it, and the others might not mention it simply cause they're scared, cause she has the reputation of being crazy and violent.
 

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What i see by fair criticism is what majority of the people agree on something, for example when 100 people play a game and 90 of them criticize the game for good reasons and they all agree on common ideas, than that is fair criticism, pretty much everyone agrees on the bad points of a game.
For anything popular like Summer's Gone that in reality means only fan criticism is fair though. It's writing off anything that doesn't fit a fan's idea of what's flawed as not legit so every other criticism is unfair, flawed, meritless or bad faith.

That attitude is why F95 threads are often a repetitious echo chamber cycle of memes and theories that are either giant circle jerks or mass hate. What everyone agrees on is not a good metric for fairness or legitimacy because that quickly becomes what fans or haters whichever is more prevalent agree on and every other criticism or praise gets pushed away. People that like a game pretty much by default are willing to overlook it's flaws or they literally don't bother them or even see them as flaws. I know for a fact I'm guilty of that.

We see that on F95 all the time. I look at the SG and BAD threads because I like the games, every popular game has people that have been posting in them week after week for years because they like the game no? Contrary opinions get dog-piled, mocked, shut down and butthurt facepalmed by thread regulars every time. Let's be honest it's very predictable. Because they're not seen as contrary opinions, they're seen as something wrong to be attacked and discredited because fans don't want to hear it or are tired of it but aren't tired of the same positivity brought up and repeated endlessly. It's plain fanboying.

No sex content is a perfect example. It's a literal plot point in the VN through Nika's PTSD and impotence but people decide it can't be criticized because there is a disclaimer. When no it's literally part of the plot the decision for it to be there is absolutely open to been criticized or disliked as much as any part of a plot or theme is. Negative opinions don't need consensus they just need to be made in good faith for the criticism to be "fair". I don't think we're all so sensitive something is only fair if we all agree with it.
 

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Ya it seems unlikely that nobody would ask Bella how the sister is doing, unless they aren't aware she's still alive. It's very much a daytime soap opera trope for her to be comatose. Summer being in that bed would've been the most cliche plot twist.

Yeah, I can imagine the F95 riots if Ocean had a future chapter where the MC woke up, walked to the bathroom, and opened the door to see the naked back and ass of a showering woman. The woman slowly turns around in a very Bobby Ewing-esque way. It's Summer. She looks at the MC quizzingly and asks, "Nika, what's the matter?" :whistle:o_O
 
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Yeah i don't know but i don't believe that bit with MC's uncle, i think he was straight up lying about that.

It just came out of nowhere and it was never mentioned before, either that or maybe Ocean plans something, maybe more will be revealed in the future, he keeps everything in mystery and reveals things bit by bit as story goes on.
I just had the weird thought, does Willi play basketball? What if Nika is the NTR child of Leia or Katie?

For anything popular like Summer's Gone that in reality means only fan criticism is fair though. It's writing off anything that doesn't fit a fan's idea of what's flawed as not legit so every other criticism is unfair, flawed, meritless or bad faith.

That attitude is why F95 threads are often a repetitious echo chamber cycle of memes and theories that are either giant circle jerks or mass hate. What everyone agrees on is not a good metric for fairness or legitimacy because that quickly becomes what fans or haters whichever is more prevalent agree on and every other criticism or praise gets pushed away. People that like a game pretty much by default are willing to overlook it's flaws or they literally don't bother them or even see them as flaws. I know for a fact I'm guilty of that.

We see that on F95 all the time. I look at the SG and BAD threads because I like the games, every popular game has people that have been posting in them week after week for years because they like the game no? Contrary opinions get dog-piled, mocked, shut down and butthurt facepalmed by thread regulars every time. Let's be honest it's very predictable. Because they're not seen as contrary opinions, they're seen as something wrong to be attacked and discredited because fans don't want to hear it or are tired of it but aren't tired of the same positivity brought up and repeated endlessly. It's plain fanboying.

No sex content is a perfect example. It's a literal plot point in the VN through Nika's PTSD and impotence but people decide it can't be criticized because there is a disclaimer. When no it's literally part of the plot the decision for it to be there is absolutely open to been criticized or disliked as much as any part of a plot or theme is. Negative opinions don't need consensus they just need to be made in good faith for the criticism to be "fair". I don't think we're all so sensitive something is only fair if we all agree with it.
It's that good faith approach that is most moft lacking - the different opinion isn't the problem, it's that some opinions are now memes in their own right:
- "I'm going to be 84 before this is finished/my kids will play this wah wah wah" This isn't a discussion point, it's a now a trope. People saying this aren't being honest, they can't have this complaint without wanting to see the game finished. Things take as long as they take. This is disingenous at best.
- "where's the compressed/android/mac" Learn to pirate better. I can't think of a single thread where people haven't explained what to do. Every time someone asks for a compressed, they push the actual post deeper into the search (like I've now done, I'm an asshole).
- "You like the game, you're a white knight riding Ocean's cock." Imaginative, witty and a great comeback for every time someone disagrees with trollish behaviour, sprinkle through comments to show how salty they are. 100% guaranteed to win the internet with this meme. Wait, why do the trolls fantasize about people riding Ocean's cock so much? Are they truly into NTR?
- "You don't agree with me, you're a child. I have seen everything in the world and am the repository AND font of all knowledge. Nothing deviates from my world view, YOU SHALL NOT PASS." Pretty hard to have a meaningful interaction with all the good faith shown by those peeps.
- The sex thing "There was no sex, this game sux" is not a discussion in good faith, because it is stated there is no sex. Discussing that Nika could have fingered or muff dived, or heck stayed still and let Bella grind him like sandpaper is a discussion, and most people have debated that in good faith. If people can't read the first screenshot, before they can even set the skipping of pages and transitions, how do they even AVN?

Most theories are debated when in good faith, heck, a troll who will debate a point without salivating over cock riding is almost a breath of fresh air. I like your direction, but maybe you're giving too much credit to the trolls, lumping them in with people who think differently. Trolls will simply oppose because they like grinding on other people's opinions. The minute there is sex in the game they'll say "huh, a full blown threesome with the twins and Kate only? Why can't I bang Josy yet? What do you mean wrong game? You're just cock riding." It takes dedication to not act in good faith - ie not be human and be a troll.
 

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Yeah, I can imagine the F95 riots if Ocean had a future chapter where the MC woke up, walked to the bathroom, and opened to door to see the naked back and ass of a showering woman. The woman slowly turns around in a very Bobby Ewing-esque way. It's Summer. She looks at the MC quizzingly and asks, "Nika, what's the matter?" :whistle:o_O
well, if that were to happen, Nika would probably get his erection back. :KEK:

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There are not much information where did they live before. The only thing Nami said:
"We went to a high school way in the west."

And we know that MC has (had?) an uncle who taught him to play basketball. Who is his uncle? Does this mean that MC knew his birth parents? Where is his uncle now? How are Noji and uncle related? There are no answer :HideThePain:
Well, there's also the question of when and why did Nojiko move and isolate the MC and Nami away from their own relatives and Nojiko's circle of friends?

Was it when they were much younger and because of the Zanes? Or was it when they were teens and because of Summer?

How many times has Nojiko moved them? Is the house they live in now the same one they lived in when Summer was around?

So many questions... :)

The game lays out pretty well the school histories of the main characters.

The MC, Nami, Nia, and Summer went to that high school out west. The rest of the characters attended another one or two high schools more or less together. The difference in high schools seems geographic rather than socio-economic. Well-to-do Summer attended the same high school as average Nika, Nami, and Nia. Dirt poor Mila attended the same high school as well-to-do [insert name of posh character here].

Addendum:

MC, Nami, Nia, Summer = Tropics High School "out west".

Bella, Ayua, Mila, Nadia, Kate, Jeff, Trey, Aziz = all attended same unnamed High School, different from Tropics HS.

Zara, Vic = High School not stated, although both attended same Elementary and/or Middle School as Mila.
 
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Isn’t Kelly, by any chance, Daphne’s daughter? Her religious inclination, earrings like Daphne’s, eyes, but her breasts are from Willie’s mother’s side.
I can't shake this nagging feeling in the back of my head that SG could become the GOAT inbred/incest game ever ["What do you mean I just shagged by half-sister? I thought she was my cousin."]
 

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Dunno, her friends and most people in school know her and her reputation. Her friends would know this is a topic that hurt her and they wouldn't tell a completely newcomer (Nika) about it, and the others might not mention it simply cause they're scared, cause she has the reputation of being crazy and violent.
Fair point. For that outburst about the picture to not be addressed by now, isn't normal. It's a sensitive topic sure, but Bella talks to her sister about him like she's in love. I've met actual crazy, violent women in my own life, Bella mostly acts the part. She has more bark than bite. Real psychopaths don't feel guilty about hurting others. She felt bad just by mentioning Thomas' cheating ways to Brenda.
 
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