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Reading comphreension is hard huh?
Do you know what a "loss" is? You can't have lost a game while the game is ongoing. She acts like that because he bailed on her without so much as a warning. Not because of the loss.
I meant this:
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Didn't most of the love interests that were introduced so far have some kind of trauma going on in their lives?
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Steins Gate MC has no tragic past and remains a fantastic character.
Rewrite MC has a past but it is not tragic. And his best version is in the true route, in which he has no past
Takeru from Muv Luv has no tragic past and goes from annoying to a great MC.
Rin from Fate Stay Night has no tragic events and is the best developed heroine.
Main girl from Acting Lesson: again no tragic past.
Take Mass Effect best trio: Liara, Tali and Garrus. No tragic past. The three of them grow IN game.
Those are just the top of my head without thinking much.
You never saw competitive children that are competitive just because? Really? Me and my friends were competitive because it was fun.
So while everybody has suffered something, not everyone is scared terribly but it.
And you are totally missing the point and in fact you are saying something false. NOT ALL STORIES NEED TO START WITH A PAST. I put it large because you assume that is the case. You can make all kind of tragedies and conflict and drama during the story.
Not all characters are interesting because of their past. And certainly not only tragic past are interesting.
Even in a Rick and Morty episode Rick makes fan of how all superheroes are all the same. Rick and Morty!
So no, you dont necessarily need a tragic past to make great characters. If anything, is done half because you want the audience to be empathetic but also because it is an easier way to introduce mystery. You give some hints and then "what happened to him/her"
Now, I am not saying we dont need tragic past either at all. Amane' past in is The Fruit of Grusaia is the best part of the novel. And in this novel by construction all characters have a tragic past.
My favorite novel of all time, The House in Fata Morgana, is about discovering tragedies, oversimplifying stuff. But this is by construction. Not all novels NEED to be like that.
Also, it can be detrimental. If a character past is too harsh, it can make new tragedies less effective. "Why care he has no job? Girl was raped!" "Why is he so devastated heroine died? His family alwaya die. Why this one matter so much?"
Again, I am the biggest drama queen here. I love to see characters falling in despair. But no need to make everyone broken from the start. Can brake them in game. And characters can have flaws that make them interesting without a past generating them.
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MC has enough difficulties to get hard... don't think of him banging all pussies close to him...I hope we have a chance to romance everyone in the game, especially Zara
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I was not comparing to real life but talking about novels.
I do agree that the main reason is probably trying to captivate the audience. My point as I explained in the previous point is that just abusing tragic past characters is not the best way to go.
Patreon games suffer mainly because they need to captivate from time zero. They cannot wait to flash out the setting before capturing the audience as they need support. The House in Fata Morgana, on the other hand, doesn't start to pick up until chapter 4, which needs several hours to get there.
So probably the abuse in tragic past comes from the business model, as you suggested.
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The game's main theme is healing.
Of course every girl have some past trauma to overcome.
The only girl without it is probably Victoria, because she has a different and more recent trauma to overcome.
Of course every girl have some past trauma to overcome.
The only girl without it is probably Victoria, because she has a different and more recent trauma to overcome.
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Actually, you gave a good example to my point. Victoria's tragedy happens in game. I agree the game is about healing. Not all helaing need to come from past tragedies.
A lot of conflict and drama can happen from interaction in game.
Nami being in love with her brother is a source of drama and conflict no needing past drama too.
Zara need not be competitive because her mother abused her, but could simply be her character and her conflict could come from not allowing anyone stand by her side without matching her ridiculous expectatiins.
Again, point was not to write my own novel. Just to point out the "too much broken past characters" situation that I am seeing.
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I think Zara's change goes back to Nika's response to the handcuff incident. He didn't respond to her for what she did to him but for involving Nami being in danger in the setup. She's used to being able to intimidate people, but his threat to her if she ever tries to use his loved ones in any way again was probably jarring to her. She never had her father stand up for her like Nika does for Nami, and seeing a man who might also do that for her piques her interest.
Let’s also recall MC’s behavior in these games. He played fair against Bella, just gave her some compliment. But he made everything to make Zara (and Nadia) mad in the second game, that was his master plan to win. So I wonder, maybe different reaction of Bella and Zara (with Nadia) is related to MC's behavior, not to girls' mental state?
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Do you enjoy FULL FORCE foot or KNEE BLOWS TO YOUR ABDOMEN AND CROTCH WHENEVER YOU PLAY CONTACT SPORTS?
cONTACT SPORTS - YOU CONTACT PEOPLE TO GET THE BALL - fOOTball/soccer/basketball/handball ...
You realize you are basically describing Vanessa right? Just swap "competitive" with "alpha".
While I don't disagree with you in general, in this case two sisters with basically the same personality wouldn't make the story better.
No you're not. The biggest drama queens here are the "I'll die before the game is finished" crowd.
There are tons of those kinds of people everywhere. Negative drama is not the only thing that can motivate a person to excel.
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Theres also a music resoration mod listed in the startpost of this thread. But carefull, afaik this mod don't work with other mods.
Well, we are all defined by our past.
The imprinting or interaction with each other begins in infancy. From there it goes on to kindergarten, primary school, secondary school and then on to vocational training.
These are all formative phases that have a massive influence on our entire being and contribute significantly to the acquisition of enormously important social skills.
The past lays the foundation for the present, one cannot exist without the other.
Which one?
And no, the awnser "not the gal who got turned into a BBQ" dosen't count.
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with Bella, they watched a dude watch porn with a buttplug in his ass just a night before. that's a pretty intimate moment if you ask me, so it makes sense she's not in her "crushing enemies" mode with him anymore
with Zara, it's literally second time she sees him, so he's still in "enemies to be crushed" territory, and he doesn't show any reaction after being handcuffed, so they had to turn up the heat a bit and undress him
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While I agree with your overall sentiment that this game tends to be overly dramatic and each character has their own demons from the past, I still think you're misreading Zara's character a little. This is not about her competitiveness itself, which is a result of her past negative experiences, it's not the real Zara's problem. Many of the characters are competetive too, Nadia, Nami, the MC, basically most of the college athletes.
Her problem is fear of failure, dependence on authority, and therefore problem of making real friends. Because she has an unconscious need to prove herself to others, and this manifests itself in constant trials and challenges to the people around her. It makes it difficult for them to be comfortable with her. Nadia is probably her only true friend, because she understands her and is similar in some ways. The rest are not very good, although many appreciate her positive qualities, Vic and Bella as an example, but nevertheless Zara's difficult character prevents them from getting closer. Even Vanessa gets annoyed by her sometimes.
I don't think Zara became competitive because her mother abused her, she probably always liked to compete. But because her mother planted some fears in her subconscious as a child, it affected her adult life and made it difficult for her now. And I like that the MC can help her because he understands people. And I love that he acts with confidence, he knows what he is doing and what outcome he expects and comments on it to us through his internal monologue. And I absolutely love that if the MC decides to be kind to Zara and try to help her, he ends up making the wonderful loyal friend, and maybe even more than just a friend.
No, I don't agree that there are too much broken past characters. Citing Amber "Facing our fears is one of the biggest challenges in life." I think this phrase could become the refrain of the game, for me this is exactly what SG is about. All the characters do is fighting their fears, the MC, Mila, Vic, Nami, Bella, Nia, even shorty Beanpole. Zara is no exception.
Oh, and of course, this game is also about boobs. About big, huge, gigantic, enormous, unimaginable boobs. This is the second very important point of the game.
Guess you got a fair point lol but that's up to the player whereas i feel like whether your on that path or not Vanessa will still try and pursue her and or manipulate her to do stuff in the story
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I am very glad that the new version of the game continued the story of Bella. Bella is my favorite character in this game version 5. It was very interesting to read everything and especially the cinematics. As always, it was very cool).
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I guess we can all agree on this