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*sigh* It was only the first season. There are at least 25 more chapters ahead.
Before chapter 4, hardly anyone thought that Zara would have so much screen time and development.
I read this later... We still have 25 chapters, so what? We can judge what we have now. My point stands, Victoria is still somewhat badly executed compared with Mila, whose arch is much more cohesive. Or even worst Sasha, Zara, Nia and even Vanessa, all of whom had much less screen.
Nah. I see the car accident and the scene at the the physiotherapist as significantly more impactful to the story and the character.
Agree to disagree, he's fucked without Nami. She's his conscience, without her he wouldn't know what to make of the incident.
There's a pattern whenever he has to make sense of things that he goes to Nami.
 
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While it's true that Vic's incident put Nika on this path, the one who really triggers him to start fixing his life is Nami, as seen after visiting Victoria at the hospital in chapter 1.
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All the other girls matter too in some way later, but it's Nami who prompted him to change.
The one who is primarily responsible for the improvement is Nika himself. Bella also plays a significant role and Nami plays a rather large role. But, I want to emphasize that Nika copes well at his own pace, and the best thing is when he accepts his own the decision itself, without forcing it. The scene with Nami in the hospital does not paint her at all, because she yells at the whole hospital and makes personal display to other people and her words, as if with a click you can let go of complete fucked up too.

One of the main reasons why Victoria is a big no for me, even as a friend, is precisely because of crap in the style of *fate*, *not a coincidence*, etc. Forcing relationships and imposing them through privileges only irritates me even more. Compare for yourself. The path of Bella and Nami (the public's favorites) and how easy it is to get out of their path, and the complete opposite - Victoria, the only character whose path, on the contrary, is very difficult to get out of, without knowing the passage and the only character whose path gives an additional fitness point. And to a lesser extent, but still a similar situation with the characters Nia, Zara and Nadya. Among the trio who participated in the incident with handcuffs, only Robin sincerely apologizes and we even have the opportunity not to forgive or keep on the hook. Whereas Zara and Nadya literally forced. Nya, with her bonuses from the agreement, go to her (much better game in the hall) there too.
 

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The one who is primarily responsible for the improvement is Nika himself. Bella also plays a significant role and Nami plays a rather large role. But, I want to emphasize that Nika copes well at his own pace, and the best thing is when he accepts his own the decision itself, without forcing it. The scene with Nami in the hospital does not paint her at all, because she yells at the whole hospital and makes personal display to other people and her words, as if with a click you can let go of complete fucked up too.

One of the main reasons why Victoria is a big no for me, even as a friend, is precisely because of crap in the style of *fate*, *not a coincidence*, etc. Forcing relationships and imposing them through privileges only irritates me even more. Compare for yourself. The path of Bella and Nami (the public's favorites) and how easy it is to get out of their path, and the complete opposite - Victoria, the only character whose path, on the contrary, is very difficult to get out of, without knowing the passage and the only character whose path gives an additional fitness point. And to a lesser extent, but still a similar situation with the characters Nia, Zara and Nadya. Among the trio who participated in the incident with handcuffs, only Robin sincerely apologizes and we even have the opportunity not to forgive or keep on the hook. Whereas Zara and Nadya literally forced. Nya, with her bonuses from the agreement, go to her (much better game in the hall) there too.
It doesn't matter how Nami did it, it's what she said that matters. She said exactly what Nika needed to hear to snap out of it. She was the only one who could do such a thing cause she knows him so well and they share a deep bond.
Of course Nika is determinant in his own redemption but Nami is the closest person to him. Even if you're not on her path she's the one person he confides in and shares his struggles with more openly, more than anyone else, even Bella on Bella's path. This game would be much more different without Nami, with a darker Nika. He would be alone in his own mind, and Nojiko wouldn’t be able to help him, not like Nami can.

Agree with the second part.
 
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No kidding, I said it a while back, Vic looks like she has had one too many trips at the surgeon last year.
These are some of the best examples.
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They almost all look like weird abominations by now, wether it be Mila gaining 100lbs, Bella's face getting changed or Ayua changing from Asian babe to generic black haired girl #56. Almost none of the girls we fell in love with are still in the game. It's maddening honestly. Can't wait till he gets to Nami and fucks her up too. Maybe some DDD deformed tits? Or make her thighs wider than MCs torso like what happened to Mila...
 

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Fair enough I thought the same until somewhere along the way I changed my mind on my first playthrough haha not sure what changed my mind anymore. Probably was something simple like I loved her banter and dynamic with the MC not sure . I was only interested in Victoria initially.
It's not that I like or dislike Bella. I don't care about my personal preferences for LIs (for a possible extent) and I don't see myself in Nika's shoes like some do here. I just want to make a good story out of this game. Initially, I was targeting Zara despite that her appearance is not to my taste. But it just so happened that Vanessa meets all my requirements. I like her looks, her image, and her potential role. Right now, she fits perfectly. If her looks didn't appeal to me, I'd still go after her. Ideally, I want to make Nika and Vanessa enemies. I like the trope "from-enemies-to-lovers" and I think it suits this game. This trope is quite popular, but it's usually easy stuff where two people just don't like each other or they are kinda "enemies" who quickly come to realize that they're actually made for each other. But I want real hardcore. To such an extent that their enmity will begin to ruin the lives of both of them and others. Nika must develop romantic relationships with other LIs, but only so that these relationships do not succeed. I want LIs to compete with each other for Nika. This is especially true for Bella and Zara. Right now, I don't plan to play Bella's path in my main playthrough, but if it turns out that her path can be ruined the way I want (through her competition with Zara, for example), I will certainly play her path. I will play Nami path, but I will not follow it to the end. And If Vanessa finds out about their relationship and uses it against Nika, that would be great. Right now I'm planning a throuple with Vanessa and Victoria. Given Vic's storyline, I think ending the story with her as well would be perfect.

Of course, there's me and my plans and there's Ocean and his plans. But if I manage to create a story at least slightly similar to what I described above, I will be very happy. :)
 

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It's not that I like or dislike Bella. I don't care about my personal preferences for LIs (for a possible extent) and I don't see myself in Nika's shoes like some do here. I just want to make a good story out of this game. Initially, I was targeting Zara despite that her appearance is not to my taste. But it just so happened that Vanessa meets all my requirements. I like her looks, her image, and her potential role. Right now, she fits perfectly. If her looks didn't appeal to me, I'd still go after her. Ideally, I want to make Nika and Vanessa enemies. I like the trope "from-enemies-to-lovers" and I think it suits this game. This trope is quite popular, but it's usually easy stuff where two people just don't like each other or they are kinda "enemies" who quickly come to realize that they're actually made for each other. But I want real hardcore. To such an extent that their enmity will begin to ruin the lives of both of them and others. Nika must develop romantic relationships with other LIs, but only so that these relationships do not succeed. I want LIs to compete with each other for Nika. This is especially true for Bella and Zara. Right now, I don't plan to play Bella's path in my main playthrough, but if it turns out that her path can be ruined the way I want (through her competition with Zara, for example), I will certainly play her path. I will play Nami path, but I will not follow it to the end. And If Vanessa finds out about their relationship and uses it against Nika, that would be great. Right now I'm planning a throuple with Vanessa and Victoria. Given Vic's storyline, I think ending the story with her as well would be perfect.

Of course, there's me and my plans and there's Ocean and his plans. But if I manage to create a story at least slightly similar to what I described above, I will be very happy. :)
must say that's a interesting way to play , I can 100% see that too if you only play very few paths. Unlike someone like me that will play all eventually, except characters I dislike / hate ( Vanessa and Robin) at least I wont play those paths for a long time if this game ever gets finished or closed to finished haha.
 

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thats it, if the steam release is suppose to attact a new fan base, then the people that play it will play a so called adult visual novel with zero nudes and zero adult content, so are they suppose to be looking forward to season 2 with the thought of oh joy let me support this developer on pateron with a monthy amount that puts out zero lewds in his game, how are they suppose to take away the summers gone steam version with any hope to see any of the females naked and in sex scenes for the future. i know i would not, i would not want to support a developer if i played there so called adult visual novel with no adult content what so ever. you have to think about a fresh new player and their mindset buying summers gone and what they will take away from playing it .are they suppose to be excited for the story full of beautiful women that are fully dressed, i would imagine not. especially when it is marked as a adult visual novel and it is played like a visual novel. a person will buy an adult visual novel to see naked women and sex scenes if they buy this adult visual novel and it has zero naked women and sex scene they will not be encouraged to support this developer anymore i imagine. if they wanted just story they would buy a visual novel. is the point to hook them with story by buying summers gone on steam and then have them support on patreon with a monthy pledge to still see very little lewd content and have to wait for a long time to see maybe a handjob in a year or so and maybe a blowjob maybe 2 and 1/2 years , let alone any real sex with any of the females and you will probaly have to choose who you have sex with ,you will not be given the choice to have sex with them all i imagine, summers gone is not a harem game.
You're right, there are a lot of strange things associated with Steam. Here's an example: Ocean put SG into Steam with the 16+ category, while the second season will have sex scenes, and this is already the 18+ category. He simply won’t be able to combine seasons 1 and 2 because of this, he will have to either rate the first season at 18+, or make the 2nd season without sex scenes. I think no one will like it.
 

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Yeah I think the only people that won't get it on steam or the ones that hate the edits / censorship , they barley or dont use steam so it isn't convenient for them like it is for me.
Me, for example. I´m more of a console gamer so i barely use Steam, i have some games there sure but is not my normal place for play. And if in the Patreon version i can see some more boobs...Well, is silly and i know it but i like boobs :LOL:
 
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Me, for example. I´m more of a console gamer so i barely use Steam, i have some games there sure but is not my normal place for play. And if in the Patreon version i can see some more boobs...Well, is silly and i know it but i like boobs :LOL:
Where are people getting the idea that there is an uncensored/different patreon version? As far as I could tell from the devlog, there's only one version, and those are the list of things he has changed. Doesn't matter where you get it, it will be the same. In the dev log, Ocean talks about things he changed in the rework as part of the 2304 renders he did, not things he changed for Steam. SO when he made Amber's blouse opaque, it's because it was a cheap way to show her pierced nipples, but she wouldn't do that as a professional. Same sort of thing, Ocean's changed a bunch of things, not to censor, but to make it more cohesive. Amber's change has nothing to do with censoring it for steam, as there already is partial nudity mentioned to make it pegi 16. Nami's lake thing is probably a nervous Ocean censorship, more to do with making it squeaky clean for patreon.

These are my opinions, but nowhere have I seen mention of a separate patreon version from anything Ocean has said.

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Have you even played SG?

First of all, his dick works fine, but unfortunately it only works in one direction - Summer's dead pussy.

Second, Nami, roleplaying Summer, was able to make him get a boner.

Third, when the MC allowed Nami to move her buttocks on his dick in jacuzzi, he suddenly discovered that his dick was alive again. So, it's not just dead Summer's pussy that's actually working.

Four, the game doesn't yet say what exactly caused his panic attacks, but now they happen quite regularly. The more body contact he has, the stronger the blow. He lost in the college hallway surrounded by a bunch of girls, he had a panic attack. A threesome kiss with Vic and Mila - he had to retreat to the bathroom and experience a panic attack. He was having fun at a book club - panic attack. Do you really think getting more intimate with Bella is a good idea until he deals with this shit?

The game kinda hints that this idea is not very good. And it seems obvious that until he and Amber visit the damn cabin, he will not make any progress in solving this problem.
Hey yossa, I found further reasons why you're right about this, Ocean thinks panic attacks occur to SG'd MC because well... ....in his own words (from the devlog):

After I checked my backups and saw that Backblaze forgot about 30% of the files, I can tell you... I almost pulled an SG MC after he had too much contact with some girls.
 

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Where are people getting the idea that there is an uncensored/different patreon version? As far as I could tell from the devlog, there's only one version, and those are the list of things he has changed. Doesn't matter where you get it, it will be the same. In the dev log, Ocean talks about things he changed in the rework as part of the 2304 renders he did, not things he changed for Steam. SO when he made Amber's blouse opaque, it's because it was a cheap way to show her pierced nipples, but she wouldn't do that as a professional. Same sort of thing, Ocean's changed a bunch of things, not to censor, but to make it more cohesive. Amber's change has nothing to do with censoring it for steam, as there already is partial nudity mentioned to make it pegi 16. Nami's lake thing is probably a nervous Ocean censorship, more to do with making it squeaky clean for patreon.

These are my opinions, but nowhere have I seen mention of a separate patreon version from anything Ocean has said.



Hey yossa, I found further reasons why you're right about this, Ocean thinks panic attacks occur to SG'd MC because well... ....in his own words (from the devlog):
Uhhh didnt followed the discussion but im pretty sure it was either mentioned in a changelog or i saw someone copying a discord statement from ocean that the steam and patreon versions will indeed be different. I think it was the Nami lake scene, shes is (and stays) topless in the patreon version but not in the steam version if i remember it correctly.

The fixes/changes like ambers blouse was a different statement and are happening in every version
 

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Uhhh didnt followed the discussion but im pretty sure it was either mentioned in a changelog or i saw someone copying a discord statement from ocean that the steam and patreon versions will indeed be different. I think it was the Nami lake scene, shes is (and stays) topless in the patreon version but not in the steam version if i remember it correctly.
Yeah i remember reading and seeing the discord message posted in this thread as well 2-3 days ago
 

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Uhhh didnt followed the discussion but im pretty sure it was either mentioned in a changelog or i saw someone copying a discord statement from ocean that the steam and patreon versions will indeed be different. I think it was the Nami lake scene, shes is (and stays) topless in the patreon version but not in the steam version if i remember it correctly.

The fixes/changes like ambers blouse was a different statement and are happening in every version
Yeah i remember reading and seeing the discord message posted in this thread as well 2-3 days ago
I searched back to the start of March, nothing a non-subscriber can see posted by Ocean regards this. If you saw it, it was another user either with more status sharing crumbs, or someone starting a rumour.
 

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I searched back to the start of March, nothing a non-subscriber can see posted by Ocean regards this. If you saw it, it was another user either with more status sharing crumbs, or someone starting a rumour.
actually just recall it was a reply someone did to me. Here is the screenshot they posted in their reply at least when it comes to Nami being topless at the lake

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actually just recall it was a reply someone did to me. Here is the screenshot they posted in their reply at least when it comes to Nami being topless at the lake

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Well there you go, that doesn't show up anymore in the general chat. Looks like Ocean deleted his response, or hid it. I'm not a fan of discord, it moves to fast for me :sneaky:

Thanks for clearing that up!
 

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I searched back to the start of March, nothing a non-subscriber can see posted by Ocean regards this. If you saw it, it was another user either with more status sharing crumbs, or someone starting a rumour.
There was a grand purge on his Discord, almost all posting history was deleted.
EDIT: Ah, sorry, you're right, the posts Dessolos was quoting were from patreon-genearal chat.
 
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There was a grand purge on his Discord, almost all posting history was deleted.
In the last couple of days? I'm guessing from here on in it'll happen pretty reliably - as more steam users appear who don't know how to read rules. Maybe this was just a reflex action in case Steam are lurking in his discord.
 

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In the last couple of days? I'm guessing from here on in it'll happen pretty reliably - as more steam users appear who don't know how to read rules. Maybe this was just a reflex action in case Steam are lurking in his discord.
Nah, about a month or more ago. Before there was a history down to the time when Regium was there.
 
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