VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Dingolingo]

Dude. The game barely started. Respectfully, you don't know how it's going to progress. Yes, Mafia/crime will be central. But so was the old wiab. Just a question. What did you think WIAB was all about? I'm curious

basically what Nasc said.
it was about willy and leia fucking it up for everyone. why that was the case was only hinted at. it had, obviously, criminal undertones, but not nearly a fraction of what ch4 got.
the main problem seemed to be incest even if they werent somehow blood related because incest, even if not blood related, is generally fucking bad lmao.
and there wasnt one clear explanation of the families or the mob or whatever... like i was the same as the meathead, FUCKING EXPLAIN OR IMMA FIND THE ANSWERS MYSELF!
like the consistency wasnt there. if you change something so drastically or introduce a drastic change out of the blue.. yeah it might go over well or it might not. clearly, it has not.

also..... NTR. i dont care much about it at all, but its been hinted for 5+ years and we got fuckall of it tbh. just make something happen between miru and katie or whomever or fucking let willy fuck any of the chicks... who are so incredibly loose with the bobs and vagenes, btw, i mean goddamn

 

[Crashbullet]

Lol. Lmao even. One of the main source of frustration in the WIAB thread is that Leia and William are not siblings anymore. Of fucking course removing incest is going to piss off people

I'm talking about not mentioning this, but leaving it as it is, everyone will understand what it's about, before the remake it was the backbone of the plot, and now it's gone, what is this game about?

made in SG because steam didn't let him sell his game in some country because it was +18?

1 country, Germany, where it was not possible to push it into Steam, and what was it worth it, the game is sold in Germany, no? And tomorrow they will introduce new rules, the mention of the mafia is forbidden in games and what will he do? Don't you see it as idiocy to try to be good for everyone and lose on all fronts?

And as much as I hate to repeat myself. WIAB was always a criminal themed VN. I don't get the idea where it was just about a "family".

It was a game about a broken family, and restoring relationships, with a touch of gangs and crime, but I didn't settle for John Wick 5

 

[xCalon]

If I get stoned for it, I'll write it anyway. I think most of the people who have written in this or the WiaB topic in the past two days are both right and wrong. But here I'm only thinking of those who have written meaningful comments and not the usual compressed, android, give me a working save and similar nonsense.

I think this rewrite has made Wiab "better", or at least not worse. For me, the original Wiab doesn't exist, neither the original Summer's Gone. For me, both have existed since I first played the current versions, namely SG Ch4.5 and Wiab Ch2. Unlike many of you, I am far more forgiving about these changes. And I write this because I bought WiaB, and even Summer's Gone before that. And usually I don't spend money on things that aren't important to me.

As I wrote in the WiaB topic, it's obvious that this is not the original story that Ocean once came up with. But unfortunately, this is what is needed for both stories to continue in today's world where hypocrisy and politically correct speech seems default. The alternative would be to say thank you very much, but I'm getting out of this madness. It's a minefield that literally forces developers, and at the same time, kill creativity.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I first played the current versions, namely SG Ch4.5 and Wiab Ch2. Unlike many of you, I am far more forgiving about these changes.

Same thing for SG, even ch 3 for Wiab in my case.
And no, Ocean's smudges are noticeable even like this, the most practical example that comes to mind is the "hit" with Bella. Ocean wrote the following chapters based on how he thought he would reinterpret that event, but when he reworked the event he goes in different directions to those that Bella and Nika refer to (just look at the scratches that vanish into thin air)

 

[dameromexxx]

WIAB has always been a criminal themed VN. I genuinely don't understand where all of this “BuT iTs MaFiA ItS Bad” come from. The old WIAB is still downloadable, play it and see for yourself.

Wiab so far had something that looked like a family clan that looked like people who just have a lot to say in the local community and have pretty mundane things like a car repair shop and maybe something like a local moonshine distillery very South Usa vibe two other local family clans Reveras and Petrovas which rise to power was supposed to be one of the plot lines.

Mila said outright that these clans are weird not mafias

Two local biker gangs, some family of religious fanatics, and confrontations over the clientele of two nightclubs one owned by Leia the other by Asavera

In one update we went from a point where we thought the Oceanverse was in some fictional place that was a mix of the US and Europe to a situation where all I hear are names that sound like types of pizza from the Italian Luigi and a gang of Japanese Yakuza Ninjas from Miru shouting Banzai. I'm still waiting for Mexican Reveras and Tabasco and Nachos Era

 

[Mamaragan]

Wiab so far had something that looked like a family clan that looked like people who just have a lot to say in the local community and have pretty mundane things like a car repair shop and maybe something like a local moonshine distillery very South Usa vibe two other local family clans Reveras and Petrovas which rise to power was supposed to be one of the plot lines.

The first Half of old WIAB was a badly written wannabe porn game, the other half was mc ending up in prison and about criminals. You are falsely accused of rape, and you get abigail's help to get you out of here. Most of the chapters following up is about the “organization” trying to fuck up the Zane. There is talk about the Biker gang joe is part of, the powerful organization trying to fuck the zane up, the Krayt gang, Miru's disappearance because of her clan and the cop corruption. Everything hinted about crime organization and corruption.
For those who want to see how bad and rushed old WIAB was, you can download it here : https://f95zone.to/posts/3651759

But hey muh mafia bad, wah wah luigi its a me mario you can't fuck your blood sisterino.

 

[dameromexxx]

The first Half of old WIAB was a badly written wannabe porn game, the other half was mc ending up in prison and about criminals. You are falsely accused of rape, and you get abigail's help to get you out of here. Most of the chapters following up is about the “organization” trying to fuck up the Zane. There is talk about the Biker gang joe is part of, the powerful organization trying to fuck the zane up, the Krayt gang, Miru's disappearance because of her clan and the cop corruption. Everything hinted about crime organization and corruption.
For those who want to see how bad and rushed old WIAB was, you can download it here : https://f95zone.to/posts/3651759

But hey muh mafia bad, wah wah luigi its a me mario you can't fuck your blood sisterino.

I'm talking about the first three chapters and I'm not interested in incest. If he wanted to maintain artistic integrity, the only way out was to remake everything from scratch with a proper introduction to this whole new mafia order or a completely suicidal move by making all family members non-romanceable and William on the one hand trying to fix broken family relationships and on the other building his influence while screwing everything that moves either as a cheater or in an open relationship with Miru and so we have a situation in which he pulled the entire Italian Pizzeria out of a hat and suddenly our Southern Belle Mrs. Dawson is supposedly the Italian Donna Seniora Davicioso

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Seniora

I'm pretty sure that's Spanish

 

[dameromexxx]

I'm pretty sure that's Spanish

Right Signora Zane-Dawson And Señora Revera

 

[Maccabbee]

WIAB has always been a criminal themed VN. I genuinely don't understand where all of this “BuT iTs MaFiA ItS Bad” come from. The old WIAB is still downloadable, play it and see for yourself.

Also, 20 fucking years passed between those two games, a lot changed. The so-called "mafia" element is going to be background noise, or maybe a minor intrigue in the future, for example the gay barber still being connected to the black market and looking for Nika's background "just in case".

SG is a college themed VN. The majority of the plot will be healing, college rivalry, sports, sex, romance and shit like that. It has no place for a major Mafia or criminal underworld plot.

Yet. As we get more of the character backstories, and meet more of the old WIAB people, it will come into play, if not actively, then in backstory explanations. Even if all the mob bullshit is resolved in WIAB 22 years before this game (or however long it becomes), it will still have profound effects on anyone related to the WIAB characters.

 

[Crashbullet]

Italian Pizzeria

Leia Pepperoni and William Goldibaldi Gigabytes

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Leia Pepperoni and William Goldibaldi

View attachment 5016174

Did someone say Leia Pepperoni?

 

[jadepaladin]

I hear ya, and I agree, Ocean went all-in with that global criminal empire, making it tough to take seriously.

Rest assured, SG won’t go down that road. It’s not turning into a mafia-style VN. Nika and the crew might deal with some part of it poking around, but they’ll sort it out and move on, keeping things grounded.

Besides, Ocean wouldn't dare making TWO Mafia themed VN.

Now that we're talking about Mafia. I remember this thread used to have one. Haha. They were called... The Bellamites!

I wonder where they are now. lol


It'll take a while. 5 more months, give or take. The reason being "huge update with 8000+ renders".

Ocean? Is that you?

 

[jadepaladin]

Leia Parmesan.
Pepperoni areola.


I knew I was onto something.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Leia Parmesan.
Pepperoni areola.


I knew I was onto something.

Come on I'm already hungry for mine and you make me think of things like this

 

[TheDuke9999]

i feel like ocean painted himself in a corner here with the new twist to WIAB . i like the direction but it kill his monthly subs. with all the new characters , the new families, the main plot, side plots it will take years to put together a decent update. unless he puts out smaller updates about every 3 months no one will sub knowing they have wait 1 to 2 years for an update.. with SG the same thing is happening . every one will just wait for it to be leaked because the wait is so long..

 

[RNasc4444]

Did someone say Leia Pepperoni? View attachment 5016192

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Personally I think that it would be enough to just change some dialogues regarding the relationship between Nami and Nika

If that´s they case, then fine. I didn´t notice anything, but maybe because I wasn´t looking for it.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I swear that the parmesan peppers have no mafia involvement XD

 

[link18]

So its kind of clear now that Nica will not be related to Willy but he will be shagging his multiple daughters LOL if that day comes