yossa999

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Been over 2 years since i played it. I see both WIAB and this has steam version? So what changed . Is sis still a LI? did relationships changed. Whole incest removed? Can anyone give me run down. If LIs removed i might not play tbh but guess understable if content removed even if i dont like.
Nah, sisterfuckers got their little hearts broken. There are no more sisters in these games.
 

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Been over 2 years since i played it. I see both WIAB and this has steam version? So what changed . Is sis still a LI? did relationships changed. Whole incest removed? Can anyone give me run down. If LIs removed i might not play tbh but guess understable if content removed even if i dont like.
Incest removed in favor of a mafia style story.
 

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Don't be silly. Incest or lack thereof didn't kill WiAB and won't kill SG. The braindead writing and dogshit plotlines did/will.
yeaaaah ! the writing was bad , sometimes even beyond my lowest expectations.
if i were to rate the whole episode would be like:
Visuals: (JAWS2) because the renders weren't as good but still better than the vast majority of avn's.
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Story and Dialogue: (JAWS4 :the revenge) some parts were below decent but others were bad and some were straight booty juice.
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yossa999

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Those who didn't play WiAB yet, you totally have to.
The college-aged adult SG characters are so funny.
The cameos just keep popping out like insults from Bella's mouth.
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Incest removed in favor of a mafia style story.
It has always leaned toward a mafia-style story, even in the earlier version. It was fairly obvious that William was part of a crime family.

Beyond the controversial "incest" themes that some (Most) seem to endorse, the primary issue lies in the writing quality. With sharper, more engaging writing, Ocean could have crafted a less dull and cringe-worthy story. It did miss some good punch!

I just wish PixelLab had this much of support. I miss some good written VN these days.
Nah, sisterfuckers got their little hearts broken. There are no more sisters in these games.
Of course there are. You lot need to be more liberal. Jeez! What's up with this close-minded thinking? My boy Nika got a whole sister squad! NAMI, Mila, Vicky and Nadia! And I will not look at them any differently!
 
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yossa999

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Of course there are. You lot need to be more liberal. Jeez! What's up with this close-minded thinking? My boy Nika got a whole sister squad! NAMI, Mila, Vicky and Nadia! And I will not look at them any differently!
Your boobs-meter is very inaccurate! They are very different :BootyTime:
 

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It has always leaned toward a mafia-style story, even in the earlier version. It was fairly obvious that William was part of a crime family.

Beyond the controversial "incest" themes that some (Most) seem to endorse, the primary issue lies in the writing quality. With sharper, more engaging writing, Ocean could have crafted a less dull and cringe-worthy story. It did miss some good punch!

I just wish PixelLab had this much of support. I miss some good written VN these days.

Of course there are. You lot need to be more liberal. Jeez! What's up with this close-minded thinking? My boy Nika got a whole sister squad! NAMI, Mila, Vicky and Nadia! And I will not look at them any differently!
I agree with that statement. In the first place, it was always about the criminal world. The old WIAB was less focused because it was a porn game rather than an adult themed game. I remember about the gangs, the old families, the prison, the girl falsely accusing you etc...

The issue lies with the fact that it takes too much time and the story suffer from that. When chapter 4 went out, I played from the beginning because I knew it wouldn't make much sense just playing the last chapter after 1 year and a half.

Ocean's biggest mistake is to focus on both game at the same time, rather than doing first SG, and then, focus on WIAB. Considering that it's somewhat a prequel, it could have been better.

And considering the speed he's shitting very high quality render, focusing on one game would make update faster, we're talking every three month.
 

Dr.TSoni

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Interesting. One less thing to talk about I guess.
So what's left to talk about?

This is gettingme excited again. Maybe the crap from the other game wont seep too much into SG after all
Come on RNasc, you're better than this. You know Ocean throws in some mafia bullshit
Summer's gone, bada bing, bada boom, dick don't work.
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It's literally going to be the excuse from here on out.

Nika's dick? Mafia.
Bella's eyebrows? Mafia.
Nami's parents? Mafia.
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I agree with that statement. In the first place, it was always about the criminal world. The old WIAB was less focused because it was a porn game rather than an adult themed game. I remember about the gangs, the old families, the prison, the girl falsely accusing you etc...
Questionable considering 2 years in prison was considered a trauma now Willy jokes about being stabbed

I was about to say that the Mafia is also behind the German taxation but from what I read on OceanLab dev logs, even the Mafia isn't that cruel. :unsure:
At least the mafia offers protection
 
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It has always leaned toward a mafia-style story, even in the earlier version. It was fairly obvious that William was part of a crime family.

Beyond the controversial "incest" themes that some (Most) seem to endorse, the primary issue lies in the writing quality. With sharper, more engaging writing, Ocean could have crafted a less dull and cringe-worthy story. It did miss some good punch!

I just wish PixelLab had this much of support. I miss some good written VN these days.

Of course there are. You lot need to be more liberal. Jeez! What's up with this close-minded thinking? My boy Nika got a whole sister squad! NAMI, Mila, Vicky and Nadia! And I will not look at them any differently!
Pixel lab? He's talented but i don't want to compare developers with their success and failures
Ocean confirmed something about Nika's family.
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That's what I always thought he's not Williams' nor Leia he doesn't have to be related to william since most of the li's in SG are likely to be Williams'
 

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Pixel lab? He's talented but i don't want to compare developers with their success and failures

That's what I always thought he's not Williams' nor Leia he doesn't have to be related to william since most of the li's in SG are likely to be Williams'
Yeah, but the "Nika is Willi/Leia's son" "theory" is as enduring as "Sasha is actually Summer"
I'm glad its dead now. :BootyTime:
 
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The same way we still use "Space Magic" to justify the pile of moronic garbage that was the ending of ME3 we will from now on use "Mafia Rules" to justify all the retarded shit that will seep into SG from the sewage that WiAB has become.
hey man.. dont diss mass effect. not here, not now.

im replaying the trilogy again, man, could you not?!
xD
 
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It has always leaned toward a mafia-style story, even in the earlier version. It was fairly obvious that William was part of a crime family.
You used the right word. It always did lean into that. And I expected it to still be part of the story but not to this insane level. Ocean didn't just take some inspiration from those themes, he made it the central theme of this story. And worse, he went overboard with it. Instead of keeping it small, grounded and plausible he just created a world that is imposssible to take seriously for anyone with a brain. He had to go with a gigantic criminal structure that spans continents. It's absurd.

Come on RNasc, you're better than this. You know Ocean throws in some mafia bullshit
Maybe not. Neither the Italian or North American Mafia lasted longer than 10-15 years before being almost completely dismantled by authorities. No criminal organization the size and scope of the one Ocean is creating would last long. This is why I'm hopeful all that ludicrous garbage will be done in the SG timeline.

Questionable considering 2 years in prison was considered a trauma now Willy jokes about being stabbed
Another huge issue with the reworks. All the gravitas these 2 stories had are dead and gone. I too expected his time in prison would have taken a serious toll on a young adult but nah. It's just treated with levity. Like a little bump in the road. A silly justification for him not being able to return immediately.
 

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Maybe not. Neither the Italian Mafia lasted longer than 10-15 years before being almost completely dismantled by authorities.
As much as it would be nice, unfortunately the mafia, especially in certain regions of Italy, is alive and well and has its hands in the dough everywhere.
It's just treated with levity. Like a little bump in the road. A silly justification for him not being able to return immediately.
Sadly

hey man.. dont diss mass effect. not here, not now.

im replaying the trilogy again, man, could you not?!
xD
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Charector's that appeared in both WiAB and SG till now.
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You used the right word. It always did lean into that. And I expected it to still be part of the story but not to this insane level. Ocean didn't just take some inspiration from those themes, he made it the central theme of this story. And worse, he went overboard with it. Instead of keeping it small, grounded and plausible he just created a world that is imposssible to take seriously for anyone with a brain. He had to go with a gigantic criminal structure that spans continents. It's absurd.
This is probably the main reason for my rejection, they just drop a nuclear bomb on us in the form of "John Wick 2," every dog has a gun and a family belonging. Maybe the ocean hired this scriptwriter for the second part because there wasn't one like this in the first.
 
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