VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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Dark Quean Olivia

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| Vee | said:
I do give a fuck about Ocean way of handling since he took over SG and the development cycle still hasn't improved instead it has gotten worse. There was no need for you to write this long post as bunch of argument you wrote are not even in my post. My post is about Ocean's way of handling development cycle.
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Yet despite that, taking both games into consideration since WIAB's initial release, he averages at a significant update every four and a half months...

So, like many others here, your point is what exactly hmmm?
 
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Dark Quean Olivia said:
Yet despite that, taking both games into consideration since WIAB's initial release, he averages at a significant update every four and a half months...

So, like many others here, your point is what exactly hmmm?
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I need to understand ...how do you arrive at that number of months?
 
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It was a combination of frustration at the development period, reworked scenes, lack of lewd scenes, Bella's path, overall update size, and the lack of content for other LIs. Those were the main reasons behind everyone's anger during that update.
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All of these can be reasonable claims. Some I'm ready to agree with if they are properly explained. Not like negative reviews that are 80% about how the game sucks because the MC can't get his willy up. I've read good negative reviews, but most of them were written before chapter 5 or earlier when the game was probably half of old renders.
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Just a heads up - that user's favourite sport is baiting anyone who has even the tiniest bit of sunshine. They'll keep shifting their position just to keep any argument going
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For a second I thought you were talking about me. :ROFLMAO:
 
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sorco2003 said:
I need to understand ...how do you arrive at that number of months?
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Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.
 
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Dark Quean Olivia said:
Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.
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Less actually. 10 full updates for WIAB and 7 for this (ignoring Beta's)...actually = 64/17 = 3.5 months.

'If' you add in beta's, to include all the grammar fixes, extra images, fixed renders etc for both...it's just less than 3 months per 'update' on average. Sure, some updates have taken alomost a year...but that only increases the average lol...

Haters will hate though (and desperately whine about timeftrames) despite the cold, hard, dead facts of the numbers which cannot be argued with. ;)
 
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Dark Quean Olivia said:
Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.
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Less actually. 10 full updates for WIAB and 7 for this (ignoring Beta's)...actually = 64/17 = 3.5 months.

'If' you add in beta's, to include all the grammar fixes, extra images, fixed renders etc for both...it's just less than 3 months per 'update' on average. Sure, some updates have taken alomost a year...but that only increases the average lol...

Haters will hate though (and desperately whine about timeftrames) despite the cold, hard, dead facts of the numbers which cannot be argued with. ;)
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And there's also the screenplay, which Ocean claims he's already finished for SG. It takes a lot of time too.
 
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N1ghtcrawler said:
All of these can be reasonable claims. Some I'm ready to agree with if they are properly explained. Not like negative reviews that are 80% about how the game sucks because the MC can't get his willy up. I've read good negative reviews, but most of them were written before chapter 5 or earlier when the game was probably half of old renders.

For a second I thought you were talking about me. :ROFLMAO:
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Nah, I wouldn't talk about you like that - you make good points even if we don't always agree on everything :)
 
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| Vee | said:
Disagreements can often lead to some bias feelings surface up;). I don't think anyone here considers me their enemy just for pointing out the issue or criticizing one valid point, (at least I don't consider anyone enemy here.) We here will disagree with eachother and that's the part that makes us human "Difference in perspectives thus, resulting in different thinking, choices, decisions, etc." and that very perspective is what makes any human interesting. How they think and choose.
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there is not a right or a whatnot to a disagreement it's just simply two different points of view, what makes it right or wrong is how you deal with it. it's right to keep calm, be reasonable, talk it out and try to see the other persons side, it's diffintely wrong to let any disagreemnt lead to hating the person just because they don't agree with you. "peace over power":cool:
 
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