VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

Did I mention Regium in my post? NO! Did I compare Regium with Ocean? NO! Did I mention anywhere that Ocean is scamming? NO! Did I metnion SG is not a good game story wise? NO! What did I mention than? I mentioned development cycle issue. You get that do you or not. If not than read again my post. Since Ocean taken over SG we are in the same trend of development since than, only exception is this steam release. I don't give a fuck about Regium that guy is gone. I do give a fuck about Ocean way of handling since he took over SG and the development cycle still hasn't improved instead it has gotten worse. There was no need for you to write this long post as bunch of argument you wrote are not even in my post. My post is about Ocean's way of handling development cycle. That's all. I never criticized Ocean's writing but his development cycle. I dare and say I like Ocean's writing more than Regium's.

This is a public forum, posts here are intended to be read by anyone viewing the thread. Sorry that your post become a fuse for my train of thought, which is addressed not only to you but also to those dudes I mentioned. I should have split it because not my whole answer was addressed to you. However, most of it was specifically about your dissatisfaction with the development cycle.

Whatever. It seems that you know better how to make two games of exactly the same scale as SG and WiAB, having the same initial conditions and limitations that Ocean had. I have no doubt that we will soon see something equally epic from you here on the Zone. I, for example, have been suffering for a long time cause I can't find a replacement or equal addition to SG. Damn, I have to rely entirely on that lazy ass Ocean in getting my fix of the favorite content.

So, along with those who think the same, I will continue to watch this show, hoping that the author will come up with a way to complete it faster than in 2049. At least, before he succeeded in many of his plans, while on my list there are about a dozen favorite games that launched around the same time as Ocean's games and have long been abandoned.

Once again, sorry for mixing two posts in one previous one, but since we both don't give a fuck, let's leave it as it is

 

[AlexFXR]

Did I mention Regium in my post? NO! Did I compare Regium with Ocean? NO! Did I mention anywhere that Ocean is scamming? NO! Did I mention SG is not a good game story wise? NO! What did I mention than? I mentioned development cycle issue.

You didn’t want to kiss Ocean’s ass, as is customary among fanatics here, which means now you are their personal enemy. But it was not enough for you to commit this sacrilege and you dared to doubt the great Ocean and began to look for his shortcomings. Now you have become their enemy number 1 and are subject to moral destruction. Although no, enemy number 1 is me, they hate me more than you, but I think the 2nd and 3rd places are free, but you need to check with them.

 

[| Vee |]

This is a public forum, posts here are intended to be read by anyone viewing the thread. Sorry that your post become a fuse for my train of thought, which is addressed not only to you but also to those dudes I mentioned. I should have split it because not my whole answer was addressed to you. However, most of it was specifically about your dissatisfaction with the development cycle.

Whatever. It seems that you know better how to make two games of exactly the same scale as SG and WiAB, having the same initial conditions and limitations that Ocean had. I have no doubt that we will soon see something equally epic from you here on the Zone. I, for example, have been suffering for a long time cause I can't find a replacement or equal addition to SG. Damn, I have to rely entirely on that lazy ass Ocean in getting my fix of the favorite content.

So, along with those who think the same, I will continue to watch this show, hoping that the author will come up with a way to complete it faster than in 2049. At least, before he succeeded in many of his plans, while on my list there are about a dozen favorite games that launched around the same time as Ocean's games and have long been abandoned.

Once again, sorry for mixing two posts in one previous one, but since we both don't give a fuck, let's leave it as it is

Oh you sneaky fox, I see what you did there.
While we do have our disagreements, Ocean is by far one of the best damn good story teller and I really think Ocean will not abandon WIAB or SG unless due to external factors (unlikely) as he put too much hard work and effort in them to keep them alive/afloat.

Will bury this topic here.

PEACE!

 

[| Vee |]

You didn’t want to kiss Ocean’s ass, as is customary among fanatics here, which means now you are their personal enemy. But it was not enough for you to commit this sacrilege and you dared to doubt the great Ocean and began to look for his shortcomings. Now you have become their enemy number 1 and are subject to moral destruction. Although no, enemy number 1 is me, they hate me more than you, but I think the 2nd and 3rd places are free, but you need to check with them.

Disagreements can often lead to some bias feelings surface up. I don't think anyone here considers me their enemy just for pointing out the issue or criticizing one valid point, (at least I don't consider anyone enemy here.) We here will disagree with eachother and that's the part that makes us human "Difference in perspectives thus, resulting in different thinking, choices, decisions, etc." and that very perspective is what makes any human interesting. How they think and choose.

 

[alanrock]

You didn’t want to kiss Ocean’s ass, as is customary among fanatics here, which means now you are their personal enemy. But it was not enough for you to commit this sacrilege and you dared to doubt the great Ocean and began to look for his shortcomings. Now you have become their enemy number 1 and are subject to moral destruction. Although no, enemy number 1 is me, they hate me more than you, but I think the 2nd and 3rd places are free, but you need to check with them.

Ocean did well with Summer's Gone, as seen from its 11 million views and high ratings. It is common for successful developers to have both supporters and critics, this is common.

 

[X1Dream]

Dam you know what i think it was best for the game to take a softer route i guess. Because, man i can see how dark this game could have went with certain parts of the game soo im okay with the softer and light hearted game of SG. Game is great cant wait to see how the story plays out. Well Season 2 i guess.

 

[Dessolos]

Dam you know what i think it was best for the game to take a softer route i guess. Because, man i can see how dark this game could have went with certain parts of the game soo im okay with the softer and light hearted game of SG. Game is great cant wait to see how the story plays out. Well Season 2 i guess.

yet to play the update to WIAB but how I see it SG probably will be less dark than that game tho will have it's moments. I mean it already has alot of comedy through Nami , Nadia and Bella at for me. While I think WIAB probably will end up being a darker game than SG at the end of the day.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

I do give a fuck about Ocean way of handling since he took over SG and the development cycle still hasn't improved instead it has gotten worse. There was no need for you to write this long post as bunch of argument you wrote are not even in my post. My post is about Ocean's way of handling development cycle.

Yet despite that, taking both games into consideration since WIAB's initial release, he averages at a significant update every four and a half months...

So, like many others here, your point is what exactly hmmm?

 

[sorco2003]

Yet despite that, taking both games into consideration since WIAB's initial release, he averages at a significant update every four and a half months...

So, like many others here, your point is what exactly hmmm?

I need to understand ...how do you arrive at that number of months?

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

It was a combination of frustration at the development period, reworked scenes, lack of lewd scenes, Bella's path, overall update size, and the lack of content for other LIs. Those were the main reasons behind everyone's anger during that update.

All of these can be reasonable claims. Some I'm ready to agree with if they are properly explained. Not like negative reviews that are 80% about how the game sucks because the MC can't get his willy up. I've read good negative reviews, but most of them were written before chapter 5 or earlier when the game was probably half of old renders.

Just a heads up - that user's favourite sport is baiting anyone who has even the tiniest bit of sunshine. They'll keep shifting their position just to keep any argument going

For a second I thought you were talking about me.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

I need to understand ...how do you arrive at that number of months?

Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.

 

[Maviarab]

Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.

Less actually. 10 full updates for WIAB and 7 for this (ignoring Beta's)...actually = 64/17 = 3.5 months.

'If' you add in beta's, to include all the grammar fixes, extra images, fixed renders etc for both...it's just less than 3 months per 'update' on average. Sure, some updates have taken alomost a year...but that only increases the average lol...

Haters will hate though (and desperately whine about timeftrames) despite the cold, hard, dead facts of the numbers which cannot be argued with.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Haters will hate though despite the cold, hard, dead facts of the numbers.

Well of course, when have logic and facts EVER worked on those people?

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Including this month, 64 months since WIAB released (here). Divide that by the number of full updates from both games. Not difficult.

Does it show what really happens? No it doesn't. Are half of those updates reworks? Yes. However, it does show an average, which is far more than most VN devs manage.

Something the haters really dislike to be told because it destroys the narrative they are building up in their little fragile heads about how much work Ocean actually does. Now, we can only hope that now all the reworking has been done, that timeframe speeds up significantly. Time will tell as they say.

Less actually. 10 full updates for WIAB and 7 for this (ignoring Beta's)...actually = 64/17 = 3.5 months.

'If' you add in beta's, to include all the grammar fixes, extra images, fixed renders etc for both...it's just less than 3 months per 'update' on average. Sure, some updates have taken alomost a year...but that only increases the average lol...

Haters will hate though (and desperately whine about timeftrames) despite the cold, hard, dead facts of the numbers which cannot be argued with.

And there's also the screenplay, which Ocean claims he's already finished for SG. It takes a lot of time too.

 

[BobTheDuck]

All of these can be reasonable claims. Some I'm ready to agree with if they are properly explained. Not like negative reviews that are 80% about how the game sucks because the MC can't get his willy up. I've read good negative reviews, but most of them were written before chapter 5 or earlier when the game was probably half of old renders.

For a second I thought you were talking about me.

Nah, I wouldn't talk about you like that - you make good points even if we don't always agree on everything

 

[Maviarab]

Wow...I think we broke the SG thread lol. So much...quiet lol.

 

[mostwanted8]

Wow...I think we broke the SG thread lol. So much...quiet lol.

Nice.

 

[dan_roger69]

Well, judging by the expression on Nadia's face, it seems another innocent banana has met its tragic demise...
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... the UI in the next season looks fancy

No, the banana is behind her. You can view it on the full image.

 

[massagecook01]

Disagreements can often lead to some bias feelings surface up. I don't think anyone here considers me their enemy just for pointing out the issue or criticizing one valid point, (at least I don't consider anyone enemy here.) We here will disagree with eachother and that's the part that makes us human "Difference in perspectives thus, resulting in different thinking, choices, decisions, etc." and that very perspective is what makes any human interesting. How they think and choose.

there is not a right or a whatnot to a disagreement it's just simply two different points of view, what makes it right or wrong is how you deal with it. it's right to keep calm, be reasonable, talk it out and try to see the other persons side, it's diffintely wrong to let any disagreemnt lead to hating the person just because they don't agree with you. "peace over power"

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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