VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Jacowboy]

But yes, you are!

However... and from here on this post is intended to be understood in general, not addressed to you personally. The vast majority of the so-called "concerned" people do not take into account important things. For example, they project their own "concerns" onto everyone else; define their own opinion as the general truth; if someone disagrees with them, that person is stupid, ignorant, naive, asslicker, etc.

At the risk of actually going off topic for real this time... bro, you're doing the same thing, so let's not get on any high horsies mkay?

I've never liked being told what to think about a certain thing, what opinion I can have about something. I can decide on my own, without external help, whether what I paid for - be it a book, music, film or an AVN - is good or bad, I made the right decision or the wrong one. After all, I spend my money as I see fit.

Well, that's what I said, ain't it? People are free to spend their money however they please, you don't need to justify shit to me or anyone else... s'all good

I still have my opinions, but I already posted them... no point beating a dead horse.

Are you a volunteer working for free?

Oh and by the way... why yes, I do work for free sometimes... In fact, I also keep a recommendation list that I do for free just 'cause I feel like it... now, is it a TON of work? Not really, but work is work, ey? Anyhoo, thanks for asking =)

 

[TheReDeeMeR]

Unless your actual name is 'nobody' - your statement is false - there are people who Do care about the music.

I happen to be one of them, I am a paying supporter and I Always encourage Ocean to pursue music if He feels it will add to Summers Gone.

I feel like the music is a Major add to Summers Gone, it helps with immersion and sets the tone for different scenes, and I have multiple SG playlists that I enjoy wherever I travel.

As nice as it is to try to speak for 100% of the people who have tried Summers Gone - better to just go with:

IMO - it is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just like each one of us!

FYI - The licensed music Ocean pursues is not FREE.

Free describes your download on F95.

It does not, for example, describe the cost of electricity, hardware, software, or the music that Ocean uses for Summers Gone.

Cheers!!

It literally blows my mind even to this day that in the year of 2024, people still don't know how the internet works. It IS actually FREE.
All you have to do is use your friend google and "download free music" or whatever. It's that simple. Suuuure music is part of the game or any game but you really don't have to throw ridiculous amounts of money on something that MOST people don't really care that much.

 

[yossa999]

Oh and by the way... why yes, I do work for free sometimes... In fact, I also keep a recommendation list that I do for free just 'cause I feel like it... now, is it a TON of work? Not really, but work is work, ey? Anyhoo, thanks for asking =)

Nice save, but you get my point.
Anyway, I don't want to bore you and myself with continuing this convo, besides it will inevitably go off topic.

But what I'm curious of. Do you like anything at all about this game? Well, certain characters, dialogue, maybe some storylines.

 

[Mr_Mister]

I'm not being a drama queen... I honestly don't care about SG, but I admit it kinda astounds me how people defend this guy... but hey, you know what? You're right, whatever float people's boat... some people waste their money on thots, some people waste their money on shady AVN devs... no difference in the end... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Personally I'm just gonna check this S1 release strictly for the purposes of updating that list I keep (same with WIABS1), but after that I'm not touching this thing any longer because I don't really care about the story and a lot of devs are doing some fantastic visuals now (some are even getting better than Ocean, tbh), which was like my only reason for checking SG out.

I hope you guys enjoy it tho.

Shhhhh! be careful Dude 'cause the simps defense force will come after you! if you say something negative that hurts their feelings.
if you could seen my dms , they were like monkeys grabbing and throwing their feces at me , just becuase i said that the retouches were kinda so-so.......... OH CRAP !!!!

 

[HornyyPussy]

Shhhhh! be careful Dude 'cause the simps defense force will come after you! if you say something negative that hurts their feelings.
if you could seen my dms , they were like monkeys grabbing and throwing their feces at me , just becuase i said that the retouches were kinda so-so.......... OH CRAP !!!!

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Yes, cause anyone who disagrees with you and actually likes this VN MUST be a simp!

Oh well, The List™ exists for a reason....

 

[Winterstale]

Season 1 - Steam Release Date + Amber therapy changes
Just now
Hello,

Let's get straight to the point... The release date on Steam.

It's on Friday, the 10th of May.
I'm giving the curators 8 more days. Then I will release.
Having Wishlists is very important for the release, and because I didn't have a playable version until last month, I couldn't send the game to curators.
It's already taking effect; yesterday, the game got another 200 wishlists.
SG is still on the lower side, so I'm really trying to get a few more in.


Amber's Therapy.
I previously mentioned that I changed the transparency of Amber's blouse in the therapy scenes. So far, so good... until I started testing more. I disliked quite a bit of the scene before, and it didn't favor Amber's character development.
She was a waaaay too touchy, way too early.
Of course, Amber is a main love interest and will eventually be touchy. But it was too early and had to be redone for the sake of her character.

Previews: Comparisons - 4k attached
Old

New

Old

New

A less touchy Amber with no transparent blouse in exchange for a more professional Amber with a big cleavage.

I mentioned the two DLC Treat packs yesterday.
Besides the Treat packs, there will also be two Soundtrack packs.

With my new contract, I can sell songs as external soundtracks, etc., and I've added the clause that they get 50% of the soundtrack sales.
The industry standard is, I think, 15%, but I want to help underrated music artists. Sadly, Late Kids and I still used the old contract. But if they want to work together again for Season 2, I will get them on Steam for S2.
Here are the covers for the two packs.
1. For The Intangible (5 Songs)

For DR.ATMO (1 Song)

Of course, this only applies to artists I made a personal contract with.
(So no Beza, etc.)

And because people have asked me the following a few times in the past few days...
Q: "Are all the nude images censored?"
A: No. There's a reason I had to check the "Frequent Nudity" on Steam. There's still a lot of boobs and asses.

It will come out on Patreon a few days later. (The initial release on Steam is very important, so this one time, Steam releases before anything else.)

I'll see you in eight days.

• Ocean

I couldn't help but notice how Amber seemed to be all over the MC right from the start, which left me a bit puzzled. I mean, they've just met, and suddenly she's all touchy-feely in those private scenes. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I haven't exactly been proactive in digging for answers, so please hold off on launching your shoes my way.

However, I've got to say, the updated version makes a lot more sense to me. Even though I kind of enjoyed the more affectionate Amber, I'm sure we'll get back to that eventually

 

[PaxHadrian17]

It literally blows my mind even to this day that in the year of 2024, people still don't know how the internet works. It IS actually FREE.
All you have to do is use your friend google and "download free music" or whatever. It's that simple. Suuuure music is part of the game or any game but you really don't have to throw ridiculous amounts of money on something that MOST people don't really care that much.

You can, of course, be intentionally obtuse about my statement.

It is your right...

It still ignores that what is 'free' is not necessarily what Ocean is looking for to create the desired emotions surrounding a scene or cinematic.

Have you ever paid for any music in your entire life?

I think we know the MOST likely answer... and yet you could have gotten music for free from the internet...

So why did you pay for it?

Why would MOST people pay for it?

Are you catching the obtuse part now??

You do apparently have an axe to grind so - have at it woodsman.

I'll go back to enjoying Summers Gone, with my music.

Cheers!!

 

[BobTheDuck]

It literally blows my mind even to this day that in the year of 2024, people still don't know how the internet works. It IS actually FREE.
All you have to do is use your friend google and "download free music" or whatever. It's that simple. Suuuure music is part of the game or any game but you really don't have to throw ridiculous amounts of money on something that MOST people don't really care that much.

SOME music is free. Try putting Taylor Swift songs in an AVN like SG and see how quickly you find out it's not freely available.

If you don't wish to risk lawsuits, you don't pirate or repackage someone else's copyrighted work (even most creative common licenses don't allow commercial use) without their permission unless you know their copyright terms. Most people get away with it because the cost of pursuing an international case is prohibitive.

In Ocean's case, the rights holders could easily send takedown notices to steam/epic/gog etc if he did the wrong thing. That's the situation Ocean is avoiding by paying for music, and removing the 18+ lewds in season 1.

For season 2 Ocean did say he's going to look at whether there were viable free music options - the question is whether he finds music that inspires him, and whether his willing to risk using it without being certain they won't change their copyright terms when they see SG making money with their music.

 

[Dessolos]

It literally blows my mind even to this day that in the year of 2024, people still don't know how the internet works. It IS actually FREE.
All you have to do is use your friend google and "download free music" or whatever. It's that simple. Suuuure music is part of the game or any game but you really don't have to throw ridiculous amounts of money on something that MOST people don't really care that much.

Honestly Summers Gone without music is like playing any other college themed AVN imo it is what sets it apart and makes it stand out imo. I mean id still play it without the music but it would feel so weird after seeing how well the music improves this game it wouldn't be the same . So I rather Ocean spends money and get the quality music he wants instead of copyright free / free use music unless it's actually one he wants cause it fits the game or scene.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I couldn't help but notice how Amber seemed to be all over the MC right from the start, which left me a bit puzzled. I mean, they've just met, and suddenly she's all touchy-feely in those private scenes. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I haven't exactly been proactive in digging for answers, so please hold off on launching your shoes my way.

However, I've got to say, the updated version makes a lot more sense to me. Even though I kind of enjoyed the more affectionate Amber, I'm sure we'll get back to that eventually

I originally took the transparent top as Amber's way of checking that the MC was truly not physically responsive to a beautiful woman.

What 18 year old straight man would not stare, sneak peeks, get a hardon from Amber...

The original scenes showed the MC with a total indifference to what Amber was wearing - which gave Amber a confirmation that there was something going on and a place to start with her therapy.

I took the physical touching as another part of that test - and again, the MC showed no physical response to being touched and held by such a beautiful woman.

The reality is that Ocean's changes to Amber's approach to the MC - more professional outfit and less physical touching - will make the growth of the MC/Amber relationship and the touching and outfits she eventually chooses to wear around/for him much more meaningful.

Amber is DDG - Drop Dead Gorgeous - regardless of which outfit she wears though!!

Sadly - Ocean is not going to go porn trope with Summers Gone - so no Bella/Amber throuple...

(or for the truly adventurous - the Bella/Amber/Claire Von Halen special ... )

Cheers!!

 

[Dessolos]

I originally took the transparent top as Amber's way of checking that the MC was truly not physically responsive to a beautiful woman.

I find it kind of funny how I never noticed the transparent top the 2 times I played the game. But when i saw a comparison of the renders I noticed it lol.

 

[yossa999]

I couldn't help but notice how Amber seemed to be all over the MC right from the start, which left me a bit puzzled. I mean, they've just met, and suddenly she's all touchy-feely in those private scenes. Maybe this has been discussed before, but I haven't exactly been proactive in digging for answers, so please hold off on launching your shoes my way.

However, I've got to say, the updated version makes a lot more sense to me. Even though I kind of enjoyed the more affectionate Amber, I'm sure we'll get back to that eventually

Yes, although it seems Nika saw Amber for the first time when Bella brought Nika to her house, but I have a feeling that there is some kind of backstory here.

Nika can't be trusted at all, he couldn't even remember that Vic and Maya were Frohns, even after seeing Vic's ID.

With Amber, not everything is so clear; she is clearly keeping silent about many things, for example, about knowing Noji for a long time. Who knows, maybe she knows something about Nika's past, maybe she even was involved in it; maybe he reminds her of someone
Hence the affection for him from the beginning.

But anyway, the see-through blouse, nipple piercings and cuddling during the first therapy session seem a little too fast, at least for SG. Although this is not particularly unexpected for a typical porny AVN

EDIT: Although I like more Pax's explanation that she appears at the session in provocative clothing and acts touchy with Nika as a test for him.

 

[Winterstale]

I originally took the transparent top as Amber's way of checking that the MC was truly not physically responsive to a beautiful woman.

What 18 year old straight man would not stare, sneak peeks, get a hardon from Amber...

The original scenes showed the MC with a total indifference to what Amber was wearing - which gave Amber a confirmation that there was something going on and a place to start with her therapy.

I took the physical touching as another part of that test - and again, the MC showed no physical response to being touched and held by such a beautiful woman.

The reality is that Ocean's changes to Amber's approach to the MC - more professional outfit and less physical touching - will make the growth of the MC/Amber relationship and the touching and outfits she eventually chooses to wear around/for him much more meaningful.

Amber is DDG - Drop Dead Gorgeous - regardless of which outfit she wears though!!

Sadly - Ocean is not going to go porn trope with Summers Gone - so no Bella/Amber throuple...

(or for the truly adventurous - the Bella/Amber/Claire Von Halen special ... )

Cheers!!

Well, isn't it just a boatload of tests for our little broken hero?
Regardless, I'm positively tingling with anticipation over the evolution of their relationship. Her character is simply delightful, particularly with those piercings - quite the intriguing touch, if you know what I mean

 

[Hahn1900]

It literally blows my mind even to this day that in the year of 2024, people still don't know how the internet works. It IS actually FREE.
All you have to do is use your friend google and "download free music" or whatever. It's that simple. Suuuure music is part of the game or any game but you really don't have to throw ridiculous amounts of money on something that MOST people don't really care that much.

Pirating is not free...

And putting music in a game like this AVN is for sure not free, the music you can get free without obsticales is just... meh and its not that much as you maybe think. Listening to music for free is not the same as using it for your game.

If a DEV really cares about the music in his scenes, and it should be good fitting one (so far i dont like oceans music choice, and even that was not free at all) it is a huge boost for the overall quality of the game...

Most games come without any music, the few games with music has more or less the same backgournd tunes, i cant stand them, it causes ear bleeding. So if a DEV wants to use good music, and the music should be a plus for the game, not a minus... no that would not be free. And the games of F95 are not free either, cause again... pirating is not to be considered "free". Nobody around here will claim to be not a "pirate" but its something else to lie in your pocket that its all free. And internet isnt free either... not where i live. I pay my monthly bill, but at least its fast and cheap.

 

[Winterstale]

But anyway, the see-through blouse, nipple piercings and cuddling during the first therapy session seem a little too fast, at least for SG. Although this is not particularly unexpected for a typical porny AVN

Perhaps I ought to consider engaging the services of a professional psychologist for the sake of scientific inquiry, naturally

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

Everyone please support the dev by buying the game from Steam or Epic

Who are you? the Devs doggy barking orders? you can support him and buy the game on both.

I'll check out the release on here. Not gonna buy something censored on Steam. You and everyone else are free to.

 

[Hahn1900]

Season 1 - Steam Release Date + Amber therapy changes
Just now
Hello,

Let's get straight to the point... The release date on Steam.

It's on Friday, the 10th of May.
I'm giving the curators 8 more days. Then I will release.
Having Wishlists is very important for the release, and because I didn't have a playable version until last month, I couldn't send the game to curators.
It's already taking effect; yesterday, the game got another 200 wishlists.
SG is still on the lower side, so I'm really trying to get a few more in.


Amber's Therapy.
I previously mentioned that I changed the transparency of Amber's blouse in the therapy scenes. So far, so good... until I started testing more. I disliked quite a bit of the scene before, and it didn't favor Amber's character development.
She was a waaaay too touchy, way too early.
Of course, Amber is a main love interest and will eventually be touchy. But it was too early and had to be redone for the sake of her character.

Previews: Comparisons - 4k attached
Old

New

Old

New

A less touchy Amber with no transparent blouse in exchange for a more professional Amber with a big cleavage.

I mentioned the two DLC Treat packs yesterday.
Besides the Treat packs, there will also be two Soundtrack packs.

With my new contract, I can sell songs as external soundtracks, etc., and I've added the clause that they get 50% of the soundtrack sales.
The industry standard is, I think, 15%, but I want to help underrated music artists. Sadly, Late Kids and I still used the old contract. But if they want to work together again for Season 2, I will get them on Steam for S2.
Here are the covers for the two packs.
1. For The Intangible (5 Songs)

For DR.ATMO (1 Song)

Of course, this only applies to artists I made a personal contract with.
(So no Beza, etc.)

And because people have asked me the following a few times in the past few days...
Q: "Are all the nude images censored?"
A: No. There's a reason I had to check the "Frequent Nudity" on Steam. There's still a lot of boobs and asses.

It will come out on Patreon a few days later. (The initial release on Steam is very important, so this one time, Steam releases before anything else.)

I'll see you in eight days.

• Ocean

Good changes for amber... the scene put me off a lot too. First therapy session and she basically throws herself on the MC and gets very touchy... she could even be naked wouldnt change much. And now... we all will wonder, has she still nipplerings?

The new approach is way better, and still, with that cleavage her intentions are totally clear

10 may on steam... so i guess last week may for patreon/ss or first week june. That was a way to long wait... overall 2 months delay just because of steam. Well fuck it, doesnt really matter anyways, cause the wait for the next episode is coming right away but that will be much shorter cause much work was done for the next one already. A huge weight is lifted here from Oceans shoulders... hopefully the sales are as expected or even better. Ill will wait for subscribestar version though.

 

[Krytax123]

Yes, although it seems Nika saw Amber for the first time when Bella brought Nika to her house, but I have a feeling that there is some kind of backstory here.

Nika can't be trusted at all, he couldn't even remember that Vic and Maya were Frohns, even after seeing Vic's ID.

With Amber, not everything is so clear; she is clearly keeping silent about many things, for example, about knowing Noji for a long time. Who knows, maybe she knows something about Nika's past, maybe she even was involved in it; maybe he reminds her of someone
Hence the affection for him from the beginning.

But anyway, the see-through blouse, nipple piercings and cuddling during the first therapy session seem a little too fast, at least for SG. Although this is not particularly unexpected for a typical porny AVN

EDIT: Although I like more Pax's explanation that she appears at the session in provocative clothing and acts touchy with Nika as a test for him.

Could be a simpler explanation too when its about a Amber Nika connection.

The way Amber greeted Nika at the bookclub (anonymous) kinda mirrored the way Amber greeted Nojiko at her house when she was there with Nika.

So the easiest explanation would be that Nojiko is/was a (former) client of Amber.

Doesnt sound too far fetched if your best friend dies and you have to raise the kids and heavy depression and dramas are involved. In this case it would be logical that Amber has a lot of knowledge about Nika already as Noji would for sure have talked about him in her sessions and Noji doesnt want to reveal it (her attending a therapist)

Maybe Nojiko's sessions were even related to Nika's state which would make it even more reasoanble that she doesnt want Nika to know about it.

Bella probably wouldnt have been able to make the connection even when she saw the clients list as Nojiko has a different surname than Nika.

And about the reminding part: so far his whole behavior is pretty opposite to william, willy escapes into pussy while Nika took the different approach

 

[Jacowboy]

But what I'm curious of. Do you like anything at all about this game? Well, certain characters, dialogue, maybe some storylines.

Yeah for sure... I'm a very visually oriented dude, so I really love the visuals, mostly... despite everything else, Ocean IS one of the best purely in terms of renders... Uhm, in terms of characters... I remember liking Nami's (at least before the latest model changes I've seen), and the wheelchair girl's (forgot her name) characters & stories quite a bit... I was never a Bella simp tho, and the others were just kinda there, so I don't really recall.

And it's gonna sound stupid, but I really enjoyed the few lewd scenes that were there, I thought they were very good "teases", and they were very erotic (so yeah, losing those for such a stupid reason kinda bums me a lot).

So yeah, anyways, there's a lot to like in there, but utlimately I'm not that interested in the plot or the characters... so once I'm done "reviewing" S1, I'll just forget about the game itself and carry on with it. If there's ever a S2, I'll check it out for science of course, but like I legit don't believe in Ocean at all, so we'll see.

 

[Icekatana]

No, no new rework. I think they're just saying they can't wait to see all the reworked scenes in Season 1, as it's the first time we'll have a complete run with no reworked bits.

Thank you. That's a big weight off of my shoulders.