Dessolos

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Ocean just announced he is looking for more music contracts which will come with their own lewdness clauses. how them last words taste now? ;)
couldn't care less personally. I dont need lewds to enjoy this game , so if he gets fucked over by the music again and has to make the game less lewd it's whatever to me. What I do care about is the characters now if the characters get gutted that is a different story entirely. Was just going off things I read or heard in the post you quoted me on.
 

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Ocean just announced he is looking for more music contracts which will come with their own lewdness clauses. how them last words taste now? ;)
I will for sure missing some context from this post of yours, I don't get the last part of you post ...
Ocean has told that he was searching for Artists to make direct contracts this them to get the music licenses with use for adult content. Not with this man in the middle shit show called Artlist.
 

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If I had to choose between waiting for the music or a complete game I choose the game. Don't get me wrong I know the music is apart of the game but damn I want to see this game completed before i die.
 
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Yeah, agree.

One of the things i don´t like is how the game force you to be friendly with Zara, Bella or Nadia. It would be logical want to punish them or still being mad with them, specially after the basket match and their revenge.

I think that not fit good with Nika´s behaviour.
I think, in Zara's case this behaviour is acceptable, like the MC says, Noji's wellbeing is more important, then the revenge.

I think is a good change, seems modern and fresh, and i find very uncomfortable have to press "H" always to can see properly the render.
Press the mouse wheel once and the UI will disappear, and you can see the full render. Press the wheel again, and it will return. One-handed navigation. :cool:
 

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Patreon does not give age ratings, steam does. While it may be possible to dancing around gray areas on patreon, this din't work on steam.

Steam is not the license holder of the music. Artlist is it.



And Artlist prohibits the use of music titles whose licence rights they own in any form of pornographic content.

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Now guess what happens if someone violates these guidelines?

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The game would be DMCAed from Artlist in no time and all efforts are gone out of the window. Steam is merciless with DMCA strikes, just ask Drifty what happened with Leap of Faith.

Steam is also checking if a game contains music that has copyright on it, during the waiting time that steam has used to review the game Ocean got contacted by Steam because they noticed that the game contains © music. Then they demanded a proof from Ocean that he has bought the right to use the music.


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And in parts some of the changes Ocean has done can in the best case only explained through "German Angst" or better to say, don't give chances.

On example was also during the table top game.

At the time when all players were using that holo console to get the individual gadget was above a top-down pyramid of light. In it's center was that fish meme from discord worked in:

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That was removed because Ocean feared to get smacked by God knows who because of this.

And if we take a look in the past, and see for what George Lucas has sued random people, this is fear is not justified if we consider the times at now.
Bud, myself and many, many others are not contesting any of that regarding current music license status... that's all well known regarding Artlist. It still fails as a dev argument if he is also stating S2 will have adult content (which we all agree has been stripped continuously in S1). Do folks really think he won't be running away from suit paranoia then? If he changes the music licensing source for S2 then it would have been much easier to do the same for S1 rather than gutting all the content. Therefore that whole excuse or reasoning of music being the sole issue is BS (imo). That's one of the points that those of us that have well over $100 invested in the original VN debut have... one of many points.

Additionally there's even a discord of him even stating there's no censorship when it's the very definition of it.

Doesn't matter though, I've stated even last night that he can obviously do whatever he wishes. His actions over the last couple of years have been some of the worst possible for clientele retention.

If some folks enjoy and support this non-originally intended VN concept (I still stand it's no longer an AVN now) then kudos and best to them, sincerely. But with all due respect, these numerous varied excuses as to why this entire process has been habitually occurring over the last two years is bologna, including this rehashed dev reasoning he provided months ago regarding licensing as the motivation to gut the project.
 

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One of the things i don´t like is how the game force you to be friendly with Zara, Bella or Nadia.
Bella had nothing to do with that, so why would you be hostile to her? Even more, Bella comes to SAVE you after Zara and Nadia chain you up. Honestly, what I'm pissed off is that you get blackmailed into forgiving Robin for using Nami on her own (for no good reason if you didn't have the toilet scene) if you don't want to be on bad terms with Sasha.
 

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but the greatest thing is that no more reworks are left.
I somehow doubt that. He reworked that Amber therapy session where Nika lays his head on her lap cause he thought that it is too early for her to show her affection or whatever. I agree with him but I also know that he'll rework a lot of scenes in the future cause he's a perfectionist of some sort.
 
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Dessolos

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Bella had nothing to do with that, so why would you be hostile to her? Even more, Bella comes to SAVE you after Zara and Nadia chain you up. Honestly, what I'm pissed off is that you get blackmailed into forgiving Robin for using Nami on her own (for no good reason if you didn't have the toilet scene) if you don't want to be on bad terms with Sasha.
I still will refuse to forgive Robin it's too early for me maybe I will later for Sasha content if I have too but as of right now nope she is not forgiven.
 

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Bud, myself and many, many others are not contesting any of that regarding current music license status... that's all well known regarding Artlist. It still fails as a dev argument if he is also stating S2 will have adult content (which we all agree has been stripped continuously in S1). Do folks really think he won't be running away from suit paranoia then? If he changes the music licensing source for S2 then it would have been much easier to do the same for S1 rather than gutting all the content. Therefore that whole excuse or reasoning of music being the sole issue is BS (imo). That's one of the points that those of us that have well over $100 invested in the original VN debut have... one of many points.

Additionally there's even a discord of him even stating there's no censorship when it's the very definition of it.

Doesn't matter though, I've stated even last night that he can obviously do whatever he wishes. His actions over the last couple of years have been some of the worst possible for clientele retention.

If some folks enjoy and support this non-originally intended VN concept (I still stand it's no longer an AVN now) then kudos and best to them, sincerely. But with all due respect, these numerous varied excuses as to why this entire process has been habitually occurring over the last two years is bologna, including this rehashed dev reasoning he provided months ago regarding licensing as the motivation to gut the project.
The music stuff was talked about so much already, the big point for ocean was that he made the animation-clips to fit the music. Changing the music supposedly would have been very difficult.

I guess he had to ponder, whats more important and decided for the music/animations instead of a few more tits and dicks. I could understand the hystery if there would have been a real lewd deleted but this didnt happen.

I agree that his statement about censorship is weird if he doesnt explains it further.

The rentention looks pretty good, he has more patreon than ever before even tho he just did a steam release.

Youre obviously free to label avn's as whatever you want but its kinda strange considering SG will have lewds.

Do you consider new slowburn avns as non-avns too until they dont have lewds?
 

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Youre obviously free to label avn's as whatever you want but its kinda strange considering SG will have lewds.
I addressed that in the post you replied to.

Do you consider new slowburn avns as non-avns too until they dont have lewds?
Please don't ping me for answers to questions as silly as that, please. Let's not pretend this whole thing is not a politically correct and teen-appropriate cleansing (censorship) of content. By doing so it's non-adult approved and rated meaning it is not an AVN.... if something is rated PG-13 then it's not adult+.
 

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One character I really want to know more about because I believe she is more than what we have been shown is Nojiko. She knows so many people sure it will be explained down the road. Book club I don't believe is just the place that she knows them from. When she mentioned the Frohns and Zanes that's just a couple of the reasons I think she has a bigger story.
 

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I somehow doubt that. He reworked that Amber therapy session where Nika lays his head on her lap cause he simply thought that it is too early for her to show her affection or whatever. I agree with him but I know he'll rework a lot of scenes in the future cause he's a perfectionist of some sort.
a perfectionist for staging mood on scenes but for characters ......... OH BOY !
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