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What's the point if there's no difference with the two version ?
No matter what the developer says, the patreon version differs from the steam version at least by the presence of these lines in the code:

Code:
$ achievement.grant("TheWiggly")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("GymBros")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("PunchPrefect")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("BellaHeist")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("Homesickness")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("MeetClaire")
$ achievement.sync()
...
etc
The developer's comment has nothing to do with the truth.

So let's stop wasting time on empty conversations and wait for the HERO with the patreon version.
 

yossa999

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Not even trying games suggestions from your pals =/= making efforts.
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: Even the Zone limited my reaction to this ridiculous statement!

Well, I’m also not perfect, so I often follow my preferences, despite the recommendations of even my pals. But for your sake, Dark, I will definitely try. Of course, after several playthroughs of the first season. :KEK:
 

yossa999

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No matter what the developer says, the patreon version differs from the steam version at least by the presence of these lines in the code:

Code:
$ achievement.grant("TheWiggly")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("GymBros")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("PunchPrefect")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("BellaHeist")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("Homesickness")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("MeetClaire")
$ achievement.sync()
...
etc
The developer's comment has nothing to do with the truth.

So let's stop wasting time on empty conversations and wait for the HERO with the patreon version.
Dude. DO you realize this is the FUCKING STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS! Of course there would be a difference in this.
 

Dessolos

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Bro, I don't want to sign this either. SG is my favorite game, not because I think it is ideal and the author is flawless and essentially a genius, of course not, not even close.
It’s just that during my entire stay at the Zone, I didn’t find anything that could completely replace SG, which would give me the same emotions that arise when playing SG.
And believe me, I made an effort in searching. On my list there are games with a more coherent and catchy plot, there are games where I like some characters more than in SG (which is almost impossible), there are games where the graphics are no worse (dare I say, on par with Ocean), there are games where the dialogue is much funnier, more natural and fluent.
But for all this together to be combined to a product at the SG level - no, I couldn’t find any. The long-dead Connected was probably the closest thing to the impression SG made on me.
Honestly after thinking about this post of yours I might need to bump SG to a higher spot on my personal ranking. There are some LI I feel more emotionally connected to than Bella because of their story or just their character / dialogue. But For me I cant think of a MC that feels like that have as good chemistry compared to this MC and Bella. There is some that comes close to their chemistry but doesn't get to the same level as Nika and Bella for me, hell even Nika and Nami have really good chemistry too. Then when I think of the entire package of the cast of characters that we interact with only very few games can match the same feel I get from the majority of the characters here as an entire package. Even on those game they don't make me care for their characters nearly as much as this game does . Summers Gone has at least 5 character I can think of that makes me get emotionally involved in their story / characters.
 

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Unless you're offering to pay his legal expenses if Dodge decides to sue him....same with the a lot of the censoring, he didn't want to lose the rights to the music he paid for.
Everything is clear with the name of the car, I agree with you here. Although it was possible not to delete the car, but simply name it differently. Your words regarding music seem strange. Ocean didn't buy the music, he doesn't have the money to buy it, so he rented it for 1 year. Soon the lease will expire and Ocean will have to get rid of the music anyway. It turns out all this is meaningless.
 

yossa999

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Honestly after thinking about this post of yours I might need to bump SG to a higher spot on my personal ranking. There are some LI I feel more emotionally connected to than Bella because of their story or just their character / dialogue. But For me I cant think of a MC that feels like that have as good chemistry compared to this MC and Bella. There is some that comes close to their chemistry but doesn't get to the same level as Nika and Bella for me, hell even Nika and Nami have really good chemistry too. Then when I think of the entire package of the cast of characters that we interact with only very few games can match the same feel I get from the majority of the characters here as an entire package. Even on those game they don't make me care for their characters nearly as much as this game does . Summers Gone has at least 5 character I can think of that makes me get emotionally involved in their story / characters.
(y) (y) (y) Damn r-limit.
I know, right! When I play Bella's route, I wish the MC had a twin brother dating with Nia, it breaks my heart when I deny her subtle advances while looking into those big puppy eyes and having her backstory in mind :)

And look how he developed Zara’s character in just a few short but very emotional scenes; it’s impossible not to smile when she sits on the MC’s neck, overwhelmed with joy that they will live together for some time. I liked her after the end of the fourth chapter, when it became obvious that she would at least be a loyal and true friend, but so many people were outraged by her arrogance and unconditional self-confidence in the beginning. I remember they called her the second Bella and another arrogant bitch. And now she's as much popular as Bella, Nami or Sasha.

I'm looking forward to seeing Vic's route develop, she's a dark horse who is still mostly in the background. And she is, in my opinion, just as important to the plot as Bella or Nami, I think MC's healing and Vic's healing will be an interconnected plot.

So yeah, so far the game is not much about the story but mostly about the characters and their relationships.
 

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Every character's dialogue that had the word "fuck" was removed.
Are you sure? I just finished Chapter 1 and the MC/Nami dropped the f bomb a lot (unless you mean just the word fuck and not fucking etc)

Also

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So, are you 100% sure and positive that all these scenes with the word "fuck" have been removed? a lot of misinformation going around. I've only passed around what I've read without 100% conforming it for myself. That's my fault and I apologize.

Someone should make a list of everything that is actually in-game vs what is actually not. Honestly, Season 1 sounds like a mess, even though I am enjoying my fresh playthrough. Can't 100% enjoy it knowing how OG players feel, hearing about this/that being cut and Ocean being a sellout.

I just don't know and don't have the energy anymore.... I'll just continue playing it, finish it and see what the fuck happens in the future. I'm definitely not buying those overpriced DLC's though. Buying this game for $15+ is enough. Why buy 2 DLCs that amount to $10+? when I can just buy another full AVN/regular game for that or less (on sale) ?
 

PaxHadrian17

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I've yet to see or hear anything that can be validated that proves it's nothing more than the Steam version without achievements and has the Patreon link on the MainMenu (since Steam doesn't allow it). That's it from my understanding. Again, I can't 100% confirm this so take with a very small grain of salt... very small.

All these months/yrs of continuous cleansing have nothing to do with Steam. This is a personal choice by the dev for what appears to be personal reasons. This all started way back when Coach Hill's nickname for Ayua was changed from "gook". That's from my memory back in the day. Here's one of my posts from back in 2022.
I preferred the branding references - Dodge Viper versus muscle car, and Gook to - 'Ayua, I'm afraid of your mother' from the coach.

I think the changes were a combination of:

* Sanitize to appeal to a wider Steam audience

* Trying to avoid a future Patreon take down of Summers Gone the way they took down WIAB recently.

Patreon has become much more aggressive going after AVNs that were 'fine' on Patreon for years until suddenly, they are not.

Their uneven application of their own TOS and their willingness to change that TOS with little warning and then giving devs what might be a few weeks to 'make changes or else' likely played a role in his decision re: some of the changes.

I've seen one dev I follow who told their supporters that they need to rewrite part of their AVN from page 1 to make sure that they are abiding by Patreon's TOS.

If Patreon suddenly changed the TOS to say 'no branding using real world brands' or 'no misogynistic references to people of any race because that is actually the dev being misogynistic, not a character in a story' - SG would have been toast and I don't know that SG would have been continued by Ocean if there was a Patreon ban.

If a certain crowd can try to take down J.K. Rolling because they disagree with her definition of 'what is a woman', what chance would Ocean have if they put enough pressure on Patreon to purge 'misogynistic hate'...

It's unfortunate that creators are not allowed to tell their stories within the boundaries of what was acceptable years ago when Ocean started SG, but RL society has the tail wagging the dog and we are left with less edgy/adult versions of the stories we enjoy.

For some of us, what remains will still be enough and for others, not.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

N1ghtcrawler

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To be honest, if this game has developed some in-depth plots in the past five years, such as the story of Summer or the story of Bella or Shasa instead of lots of sexually suggestive pictures, I will consider it a story-driven game rather than a simple pornographic game, obviously the plot of this game develops very slowly, and the author keeps making changes to make the mc boring more and more.
What's the reason to delete the scene where he and Mila smoke together? In order to make the game 13+?
The result is make a 13+ game filled with sexual innuendo
The dev's purpose is using pornography to poison teenagers
Can you point us to this pornography in the game? Because I don't remember a single pornographic scene, either before or after the game was released on Steam. The only moment that can certainly be described as pornographic is watching porn with Nami in the old renders. Totally useless by the way, glad it was removed. As well as a few other scenes that were removed in the steam version.
So yeah, so far the game is not much about the story but mostly about the characters and their relationships.
The game is definitely about the story. It's just this story is shown from the point of view of a particular character and tells about his changes. Everything about Summer is just a trigger, the inciting incident. Someday we will find out about her, but she is not the centre of the story, Nika is and how he overcomes her disappearance.
 
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Can you point us to this pornography in the game? Because I don't remember a single pornographic scene
I think they mean seeing some boobs, ass, pussy = pornography.

I think that scene was just to have Nami on the MC while they watched porn. Maybe to get him hard? I thought they would maybe start fooling around lol. Every time Nami is on the MC, I think she's about to start feeling him up but obviously, I am wrong there.
 

AlexFXR

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Nah, they don't understand why he don't want make it porn right here, right now. This has been disrupting their acid-base balance for several years.
You guys still haven't grasped the game we've been playing here for five years?

Summer's Gone is PORN ??? ...
Your indignation makes no sense, because initially there was already porn in the game, they just cut it out.

And if there is no porn in it, it does not deserve the prefix Adult.
It seems logical. If you're watching a movie where there are no jokes, does it really deserve to be called a comedy?
 
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BobTheDuck

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The version on here is not the latest update iirc
And it's literally a 9GB upload for at 56MB patch for the returned scenes. There is so little difference, I 'm not sure there will be a hero.

No matter what the developer says, the patreon version differs from the steam version at least by the presence of these lines in the code:

Code:
$ achievement.grant("TheWiggly")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("GymBros")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("PunchPrefect")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("BellaHeist")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("Homesickness")
$ achievement.sync()
...
$ achievement.grant("MeetClaire")
$ achievement.sync()
...
etc
The developer's comment has nothing to do with the truth.

So let's stop wasting time on empty conversations and wait for the HERO with the patreon version.
You do know that Ocean has just uploaded the same installer he uploaded to steam right? Except already patched? I don't have the patron version, but people on discord where suggesting Ocean remove the "steam DLC" part of the name from the patron version. I'd be amazed if he bothered to take the steam code out if that's the case, the achievements will literally not do anything without steam.

Dude. DO you realize this is the FUCKING STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS! Of course there would be a difference in this.
But possibly not depending on how Ocean has delivered it (as in the patreon version might actually have redundant steam coding).

Are you sure? I just finished Chapter 1 and the MC/Nami dropped the f bomb a lot (unless you mean just the word fuck and not fucking etc)

Also

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So, are you 100% sure and positive that all these scenes with the word "fuck" have been removed? a lot of misinformation going around. I've only passed around what I've read without 100% conforming it for myself. That's my fault and I apologize.

Someone should make a list of everything that is actually in-game vs what is actually not. Honestly, Season 1 sounds like a mess, even though I am enjoying my fresh playthrough. Can't 100% enjoy it knowing how OG players feel, hearing about this/that being cut and Ocean being a sellout.

I just don't know and don't have the energy anymore.... I'll just continue playing it, finish it and see what the fuck happens in the future. I'm definitely not buying those overpriced DLC's though. Buying this game for $15+ is enough. Why buy 2 DLCs that amount to $10+? when I can just buy another full AVN/regular game for that or less (on sale) ?
The people claiming it's a mess seem to be sitting down making a line for line comparison, and any change is forbidden, or something. I actually like Nami getting ready for gym with Jeff, it made sense, and filled a minor continuity issue that bugged me. So some people lost their favourite scenes, understandable to be upset, but there's be pluses and minuses everywhere. Over all it's the most continuous/coherent version of the story we've had where the reworks don't cause my eyes to water when they're switched off.

Can you point us to this pornography in the game? Because I don't remember a single pornographic scene, either before or after the game was released on Steam. The only moment that can certainly be described as pornographic is watching porn with Nami in the old renders. Totally useless by the way, glad it was removed. As well as a few other scenes that were removed in the steam version.

The game is definitely about the story. It's just this story is shown from the point of view of a particular character and tells about his changes. Everything about Summer is just a trigger, the inciting incident. Someday we will find out about her, but she is not the centre of the story, Nika is and how he overcomes her disappearance.
Nami grinding Nika in the jacuzzi, chapter 4 release, might have been bugged in 4.5, gone in ch5 beta. 1 single porn scene.
 

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lmao i have so much disdain for this game and ocean now. its like AAA dev/company promising a game with many cool features but when the game comes out half of the features that were promised are not there.
I must have missed the many posts where you told us what you actually Liked about Summers Gone and Ocean...you know - Before you held it in so much disdain... ;)

you are defending the guy who counts in real time his ignore list. his contribution to the conversation is useless.
Maviarab actually Has contributed to the Summers Gone conversation - you just don't agree with him, so you try to cancel him... :unsure:

i completely agree with you. that is why i am a pirate.
So - you are a pirate - you are taking Summers Gone for free.

That is all good - this is a place where we can all try out AVNs for free.

But you are now feeling 'so much disdain' for Summers Gone and Ocean - that you are still here complaining!!?? :unsure:

I know if I paid for something that I ended up holding in 'so much disdain', I would stop paying for it/using it/etc..

If I got it for free - it is even more of a no brainer.

I would go elsewhere - unless I REALLY liked complaining about it...

But personally ... I am just not that obsessive about... Anything...

Well - you do you.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

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Updated my compressed Android port of Summer's Gone with Scrappy's walkthrough mod to Season 1.

Got some basic gestures loaded in: swipe up for save menu, swipe down to hide UI, swipe left to rollback and swipe right to skip. Save files are now stored in the Documents folder. This sometimes means that you may need to close and re-open the port after installing so the save folder is properly created.

Please let me know if you encounter any issues with the ports and I'll see what I can do to get them sorted.

Link: -
 

PaxHadrian17

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Of course he wants to double dip. A lot of people defend the steam release because that means there won't be anymore remakes or so they say but what happens in 5 years when season 2 is ready to be released on steam but steam has changed most of their policies including their nudity policy. What's going to happen then? Will ocean completely cut every nude scene in the game to keep it on steam? Probably.

Steam's policies change every year, who knows what games they will allow a year from now.
We've all seen Patreon repeatedly change the 'rules of the game' AKA their TOS.

It is why WIAB is no longer available on Patreon.

Steam becomes an even more important outlet to gain new supporters when Patreon becomes a less certain option for long term support.

As to what will happen in 5 years re: Season 2, I'm much more focused on the dev log Ocean said will be out today.

My eye is on Season 2, Chapter 1, how much new content he has already created and previews of which of my favorite women I get to spend more time with!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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N1ghtcrawler

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I think they mean seeing some boobs, ass, pussy = pornography.
I know. Of course, he thinks showing boobs, ass and pussy is pornography, which simply isn't true.

I will even say that obvious pornographic content does not necessarily make the whole product porn. There are examples of experimental films that have pornographic scenes and yet they are not porn. Some Stephen King books have detailed descriptions of sex that fall under the definition of pornographic, but the books themselves are also not porn. It's been a long time since I read A Song of Ice and Fire, but if my memory serves me correctly, they have similar descriptions. It all also depends on the context in which such content is presented.
Nami grinding Nika in the jacuzzi, chapter 4 release, might have been bugged in 4.5, gone in ch5 beta. 1 single porn scene.
Oops. I completely forgot about that one.



Regarding censorship, I personally like the changes. Not all of them, there are a few examples that seemed unnecessary. But overall, it was good and freed the game from silly, cringe, and inappropriate moments that only spoiled the story. You clearly see that they were removed for that particular reason, not because of some music license issues.

I'm upset about the jacuzzi scene. Firstly, the renders with Nami and Vanessa were my favorite among the nudes. Mostly not because they were hot af. I genuinely think they looked beautiful together. That was art. But after adding bubbles to cover their intimate parts, these renders lost their former beauty. And secondly, the fact that Vanessa covers herself with a towel when getting out of the jacuzzi goes against her character. That was the only render that definitely shouldn't have been changed in the scene. There's also a scene with Nami and Nia in the shower. It seemed pretty normal in the context of the story due to Nika's absence.

I haven't played the game because I'm still waiting for the patch. Some people are saying that Ocean has censored the dialogues to the point where there's almost no "fuck" left, but that sounds like complete bullshit. Typical for whiners.
 
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BobTheDuck

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I know. Of course, he thinks showing boobs, ass and pussy is pornography, which simply isn't true.

I will even say that obvious pornographic content does not necessarily make the whole product porn. There are examples of experimental films that have pornographic scenes and yet they are not porn. Some Stephen King books have detailed descriptions of sex that fall under the definition of pornographic, but the books themselves are also not porn. It's been a long time since I read A Song of Ice and Fire, but if my memory serves me correctly, they have similar descriptions. It all also depends on the context in which such content is presented.

Oops. I completely forgot about that one.



Regarding censorship, I personally like the changes. Not all of them, there are a few examples that seemed unnecessary. But overall, it was good and freed the game from silly, cringe, and inappropriate moments that only spoiled the story. You clearly see that they were removed for that particular reason, not because of some music license issues.

I'm upset about the jacuzzi scene. Firstly, the renders with Nami and Vanessa were my favorite among the nudes. Mostly not because they were hot af. I genuinely think they looked beautiful together. That was art. But after adding bubbles to cover their intimate parts, these renders lost their former beauty. And secondly, the fact that Vanessa covers herself with a towel when getting out of the jacuzzi goes against her character. That was the only render that definitely shouldn't have been changed in the scene. There's also a scene with Nami and Nia in the shower. It seemed pretty normal in the context of the story due to Nika's absence.

I haven't played the game because I'm still waiting for the patch. Some people are saying that Ocean has censored the dialogues to the point where there's almost no "fuck" left, but that sounds like complete bullshit. Typical for whiners.
Nope there's plenty of potty mouth language to be had. People are just spreading rumours.

As far as I know, the percentage of swearing might have dropped 5%? Maybe not that. THere's still Nika calling Nami a cunt, which in my culture is fare more offensive than screaming fuck off. The one obvious censorship is Nia talking about her streaming. It's now more innuendo. I'm okay with that. The barrel of lube is still there, the water toys are still there, she still shows Nika her nip rings. He still notices where she keeps her dildos.

Most of the censorship is of Nami. Her topeless scenes have been reduced. She still gets topless often, but I understand people who like her feel cheated, just like people who liked Mila felt and still feel cheated by her new body. I actually like Nami more now that she doesn't act like she's got a perpetual pot of coffee instead of a brain, and the only solution is to get topless to releieve the steam. Her character for me is more endearing, whereas before I understood why Nika was worn out all the time. I do miss some of the dialogues with Nami suggesting fisting as a way to loosen Nika up, but I think there's enough of that humour to get the point anyway, and season 2 can have the fisting when it makes sense. Not sure someone with a dead pp will enjot being fisted, but if people are worried it won't happen... I guess we'll see if like like Larry's ideas. Maybe they want a Larry LI? I'm fine with Sasha or Nia I guess, vanilla me.

There is one scene with a semi erect penis that can be classed as porn that was cut. All other penis shots were completely flaccid. Jeff's pp is long gone. Mario's buttplug and tiny pp is long gone. I can't remember if he was hard, it was too small to tell. If people are upset that Mario's scene is gone in all his pp glory, well, I'm sorry they're missing out on Mario content.
 
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