Jacowboy

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If you paid attention, Zara assumed the kids would be Nojiko's kids and of Asian descent, so she was still assuming that Nika and Nami are siblings. Hence: why the red, bacause that gene is dominant, and that Viking gene kicks all the non-ginger genes out of the pool when it shows up.

Also: this technically violates the Patreon terms, since, even if they're not officially adopted (explain that to me, how toddlers just rent rooms from Nojiko without being at least foster kids), they still have grown up together at Nojiko's. Nojiko's dialogue still treats them as more than tenants. Nika says that he loves Nojiko (that's not a landlady) multiple times. Patreon says that makes them defacto family.
That actually made sense you know...back when the game actually made any sense.

But when the retcons began :cool: , all shreds of logic and common sense went out the window. Still don't undertand why he won't rework the entire S1 script, remove those ambiguously stupid lines that don't fit the story anymore and actually create a believable background for both Nami and the MC.
Yeah, I know... I was just making fun of his shit translations... which by the way, he never bothered fixing, even for the steam release, so the first couple of chapters are still full of weird dialogues like that... but maybe I should've been clearer about the nature of my joke :p
 

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Yeah, I know... I was just making fun of his shit translations... which by the way, he never bothered fixing, even for the steam release, so the first couple of chapters are still full of weird dialogues like that... but maybe I should've been clearer about the nature of my joke :p
Emoji and GIFs are the only way to truly show tone in this forum. No worries! ;)
 
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Dr.TSoni

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no incest, and their is another reason, that we don't know yet. Ocean has said more will be explained in the future on why it is forbidden for them.
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I feel like their has to be more to this then just patreon too, cause why remove all the incest in Wiab except Leia. Wiab already got removed from patreon so no reason to remove incest from that game at that point, so he probably has a plan on things to connect the stories.
it's 100% patreon, keep in mind that there are games that are banned from patreon because third parties (real third parties) have created incest mods. Ocean is worried that the connection between SG and a WiaB with incest could damage SG.
 

Dr.TSoni

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If he is that worried, he would of removed Leia as being our sister in that game too, cause that still can get back to him, but he didn't.
He recently backtracked, deleting the devlog where he talked about it from SubscribeStar. And to make things better it seems that even SubscribeStar is moving towards no incest. Or at least that's what was discussed in the WiaB camp

But go on belive what you want, you snd the other just live in the past, live before any changes, or any rework, cause you can't accept the new version. You and everyone have too much nostalgia, so go ahead and belive what you want.
I think if you go back through all my posts on the topic my only complaint "was better before" is just about the meeting between Nika and Ayua at Cyrus' house. A good part of what we "others" were discussing was that the mood of Nika and Nami's relationship doesn't make sense
 

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Yeah this is what I mean....You can't really have a forbidden relationship if your not
related. And the reason besides what you have is when he tells her during the
Pizza run that others could use that against you/us but if their not related this just doesn't work.
But yeah I hear ya......guess we have to wait till the first chapter drops in season 2.
At this point i think is just a problem without solution. Nami and Nika were created as sister and brother but now Ocean can´t have them in that way so they are just roomates. Makes any sense? Not for me, but it is what it is.

I have learned to think those two are related and that´s it, whatever Ocean says :LOL: . Is such a very good relationship because it´s forbidden and he doesn´t want to eliminate that, so, roomates and that´s it. He is good with Patreon and the relationship continues in the game.

For real, just try to think they are related in the game and don´t pay attention to the "roomate" word, all is better this way, trust me.
 

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At this point i think is just a problem without solution. Nami and Nika were created as sister and brother but now Ocean can´t have them in that way so they are just roomates. Makes any sense? Not for me, but it is what it is.

I have learned to think those two are related and that´s it, whatever Ocean says :LOL: . Is such a very good relationship because it´s forbidden and he doesn´t want to eliminate that, so, roomates and that´s it. He is good with Patreon and the relationship continues in the game.

For real, just try to think they are related in the game and don´t pay attention to the "roomate" word, all is better this way, trust me.
I ignore it, and play both with Incest (the multi-mod has it), and without (a separate clean install). The problem is that the words "Landlady/Tenant/Roommate" in AVNs just grate at me like sandpaper on my soul. :cry:
 

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So, Ocean said the update is coming in Q3, which means we probably won’t see it until Q4 at the earliest. That’ll make it two years since the last story update. Now i'm sad.:HideThePain: And who knows, he might just throw in more board games again, taking up like a third of the update.
 
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Krytax123

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It seemed more of a tabletop role-playing game than a board game, though. Yeah, it was pretty fun, if a bit long.
fucking degenerates ...

To be serious: I hate boardgames with such a burning passion in avns. The whole setup of a fantasy game in a (fantasy) game sounds already so fucking stupid, i hate it in every single avn similar to fucking lewd dreams or non-canon "bonus" content/scenes :sick::sick::sick:

The purest form of waste of development speed and filler in a medium where development speed is slow already anyway.
 

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fucking degenerates ...

To be serious: I hate boardgames with such a burning passion in avns. The whole setup of a fantasy game in a (fantasy) game sounds already so fucking stupid, i hate it in every single avn similar to fucking lewd dreams or non-canon "bonus" content/scenes :sick::sick::sick:

The purest form of waste of development speed and filler in a medium where development speed is slow already anyway.
You're entitled to your opinion, obviously, even when it's as wrong as this one. The game is actually part of the character development, as they are interacting with the other players. It's not an interlude, it's part of the actual game, just framed as a game within a game.

Nika was coming out of his shell even more by interacting with the other players in the game, was actively part of the game plot instead of wallowing in depression. At least one of the other players were complete strangers, but that didn't matter in the context of the game. Nika stayed very involved and engaged in the game.

This wasn't an "Interlude" like BaD uses, it was actually part of the story, and if you frame it that way, look from that perspective, you might enjoy it more, and appreciate the overall story of the (AVN) game more.
 

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You're entitled to your opinion, obviously, even when it's as wrong as this one. The game is actually part of the character development, as they are interacting with the other players. It's not an interlude, it's part of the actual game, just framed as a game within a game.

Nika was coming out of his shell even more by interacting with the other players in the game, was actively part of the game plot instead of wallowing in depression. At least one of the other players were complete strangers, but that didn't matter in the context of the game. Nika stayed very involved and engaged in the game.

This wasn't an "Interlude" like BaD uses, it was actually part of the story, and if you frame it that way, look from that perspective, you might enjoy it more, and appreciate the overall story of the (AVN) game more.
I dont mind the mc or other characters in the story playing a game or whatever for character or relationship development. But thats not really what happens in these avns, instead we are shown how the MC imagines this stuff happening with lots of flashy unneeded renders.

In the end its just a excuse to involve some stupid sci-fi renders and fucking aliens in a otherwise mostly grounded story. And worst case possible: Give us lewds with the girls in the fucking stupid tabletop before lewds with them even happen in the real story.

Nika talking to nadia before the board game had waaay more story development than the whole fucking stupid boardgame, the only girl which could be argued got a bit development due to the board game was sonja but tbh that was rather stupid too and i would have prefered to see her development in a setup where it actually matters.

Not to mention how hilarious the idea of a group of (not even nerdy) girls playing tabletop all the time and mc being the only guy :LOL: and juuuust at the time when they start considering lewd content :whistle:

I would honestly have prefered if ocean would have shown us nika and the girls sitting at a table, playing and talking instead of the whole stupid shit with aliens.
 
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