VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

Yeah, i understand you.

I understand the revenge of Zara and Nadia, Nika piss them off and they deserve the posibility of revenge, but i think handcuff him, undress him and Zara putting her foot in his mouth is worse than play them like fools and rip Zara´s shirt (Zara exposed boob is serious too , even if was unintentionally).

So, what i want to say is: yes, i understand why Nika wants to stop their "battle" but for me the measures Zara and Nadia made in their revenge are a little too far, and knowing Nika is a guy who doesn´t give a fuck and doesn´t let people fuck with him i´not sure why he would be friendly with them, okay, i understand if he "relax the environment" a little but play with Nadia in the board game or have a basket match with Zara in the final chapter... If you are in their path okay but if not for me seems forced

This about Zara seems contradictory to me too, going back to Zara putting her foot in Nika´s mouth , she warns him that if he tries again to humilliate her she is going to punish him, okay, but i have played two times, one path being friendly with Zara and following her path and other path trying to humilliate her and confront her when the occasions appear and Zara is still being friendly with Nika and they continue to make plans like if nothing happened. How is she going to punish him if she isn´t bother with Nika´s behaviour? Maybe Zara isn´t so dangerous like she tried to look? Or is just that Ocean deleted the dark path and that´s why those options can´t happen? We will see more in the second season but i don´t know, seems contradictory to me.

About Bella yeah, i love her path and their connections but in my second path Nika went with Bella to Mario´s house for revenge for what he (and his friends) said about him when he was with Milla and you can´t still being mad with Bella, this event force you to be closer to her. About Vanessa yeah... I liker her because is a character who seems to have nasty fetishes, and i love that, i will try to turn them againts each other in one of my paths too


Yeah, very true, i can go with that, but like i said in my respond above i think is too much for let it slide.
But yeah, i can´t discuss about that, Nika´s love for Noji and Nami can overcome any problem.

But Nadia has nothing to do with Noji or Nami directly so, why forgive her so easily. Or even Bella, Nami hates her, she said she is still planning a vengeanze for her, it would be a good moment for join her. I suppose we will see this in the second season.


Absolutely right. I forgave her for a favor, i hope this favors Nika is getting for people be usefull...
In other game i would say this favors are going to be sexual, but in SG i´m pretty sure are going to be more important than that.


Exactly what i thought in that moment, okay if Noji and Nami still in the house is logical do nothing, but if not... Come on Nika, put your fingers or mouth to work, he can do that...

But i think Noji and Nami were in the house, i think that´s why he didn´t do nothing.


Shit dude, too much things!!!
Definitely you did a good job here and in your other post.

I can´t answer practically nothing because i have the same doubts like you know, but there are some thing i find very interesting, for example:

-"Ayua asking Bella for nudes, his dick pics'll flow around campus": Who do you think would be capable to do that to Nika? I think if we are in Bella path we can skip her, and Ayua doesn´t seems like that type of girl
Maybe if Nika is antagonized with some girl and for whatever reason this girl has his nudes could happen but i find it very diffcult to happen. (But as always i love spicy things and problems in main characters plot so i´m in for that)

-"I can't imagine Ocean will have rumours about what happens in locker rooms spreading and miss the opportunity for risky public sex.": This needs to happen, is a college and all the people are horny as fuck (except Nika).

-Cheating gossip will happen: I´m in too, this fits perfect with a college, and i want even cheat on someone, just for see what happens and how the college reacts. Maybe even if we can do Nika cheat to someone and use it like a revenge (yes, i know, i´m obsessed with revenge ). Just imagine the reputation of some popular girls like Nadia or Bella going to the trash becouse Nika has cheated.

- peeing pants in public?: Wait, What? Why you think is someone going to pee in his/her pants? That would be absolutely bad for the reputation...

Just on those, I could imagine Ocean writing his own bingo list and then checking it off as he does the seasons. It would be hilarious if everything mentioned in Claire's happens to someone. Maybe the opening of the bar, AYua has a drinking competition with Jeff while Dwight isn't looking, or Trey gets smashed because he is sorta comic relief. It might not even be directly in public, and it might be that Nika can use it as blackmail for favours or something who knows?

Dick picks - Nika gets drunk or has some sort of hazing. Dwight likes doing dick pics. Nika gets handcuffed again for something else and they do strip him. He loses a wager. It's super easy to write these things happening.

About Zara/Nadia/Nika revenge: Zara is quicksilver, gets mad quickly and leaves quickly. Nika's trying to be a better person. The motives between the change surprise Nick as well, but as Vanessa says Zara will either kill him or jump him. With Nadia, she seems more passive. I guess keep in mind Coach Hill organised this, probably to see how Nika deals with it, considering how interested she was in his past, and she has plans for him for the first team. This means Zara or Nadia didn't come up with the plan - it was planted when Hill took them aside. So Nadia's just going along with the flow. Nika again, he can use it to his benefit, if you're no on Bella's path and Nadia owes him a favour. So I don't think it's quite as big a deal as people make it out, and if Coach Hill hands Nika the key because Marla frees you instead of Bella, Nika knows who is really responsible.

 

[Capt_Kirk]

Why her boobs aren't censored?

at this point ........... because of stupid reasons that we'll never understand

 

[minibaer12]

John972 Doomyk minibaer12 have you done a play through without going on the heist? This is new info right?

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A couple of questions to promote thoughts in general now I *think* I've seen every render/done all the paths:

- If Nika has been charged before, was it over the violent incident? Or over Summer? Or one and the same?
- When he mentions to Amber (regarding her question that he blames himself for what happened to Summer) that "it wasn't my fault ...I had no other choice", is this perhaps something he got charged over?
- Have you noticed that immediately after the Summer incident he gets violent at school from being dead inside, but when we enter the story he is depressed: did the violent incident beat the violence out of him?

Regarding Zane relationships:
- Amber and Bella know Zoey, who knows Katie very well, so chances are Bella also is friendly to some part with Katie, especially with her connection to Ayua
- Who is Charlotte really? (Charlie) Jenna mentions that she can set up Nika with Robin, and Molly asks if Robin is Nikas GF if you have the rumour going. It seems Robin is someone important - Molly seemed excited to hear something about Robin. And the venue for the bookclub, is that Charlie's place? Or a hired venue? Or Elena's house? It feels like Robin walked down from her room. But there was also a security guard when NIka walks in, so where is this?
- Robin talks about 'Adri' so Adrianna is a friend of Robin and Sasha's well enough known to have a nickname - I think that's old info, but I didn't notice it before.
- Noji vs all these high society figures, which we already knew, but now the golf course thing is all but confirmed, and I'm pretty sure is said somewhere Noji has played golf with Nick, we have Noji knowing Elena, Scarlet, Katie (by extension Leia as the last time Katie and Leia came to the bookclub was a year ago), Amber, Emilia (all of whom are likely in WiaB), Claire, Charlie, potentially Marla. Also, I think Noji mentions Bella by name before being introduced to her - if you don't go on the heist, she mentions what Nika did to Bella as the reason for sending Nika to AMber. Long winded list, but Noji apparently knows everyone important in Wollust. So there is no hiding Nika from them, we just don't know her connection. Jenna's observations that Noji 'did the right thing' does suggest that all the well to do people know what's going on.

- I've already mentioned goth girl but I also notice her blonde friend stares at Nika quite a few times, and is in the locker room scene if Marla rescues Nika.
- Goth girl highlights the importance of the earring again, so we have Sasha, Ayua, and potentially goth girl wondering about it. If you're not on Bella's path, in ch4 Nika jokes about getting detective Nora on the case (one of the twins) - cute extra fact.

- Dwight as all but confirmed Petrova, because Sasha doesn't have a boyfriend (no NTR in SG according to Ocean's original intent, plus the fact the women at the bookclub tease Nika and Sasha, Kelly's desire to breed Sasha etc.) and she's had a hard time with men recently, plus votes to not have any new male members, so kinda an ice queen. Makes sense that Dwight has carried Ayua home before as Sasha and Ayua are close.

- Demi Hill knowing about Nika's past performance and saying that if he doesn't try out for the first team she'll put his name down herself (crushed balls path), knowing his past. Is part of Hill's plan that's approved from high up to get a new functional team including Nika's past, and that's why Nika and Nami got a scholarship (assuming the reason they didn't have a choice is because they got a scholarship that Noji couldn't refuse). So is Nika's presence actually part of the plan, and they're trying for something specifically involving him?

- Regarding rumours, if you get the locker room incident with Nora, there's new rumours at the training. Not sure if that was there before. So I guess there are rumour meters in the background, the rumours open certain paths, probably affecting the manwhore route.

- is this checklist of Claire's a list of plot devices Ocean will include? LOTS of potential fun there:

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Of course I have different saves (Nila, Vic, Bella and Bella vs Mila): but first and foremost, I have a save where I more or less "leave everyone by the way", this also includes Nami, Zara, Nia etc. I would like to go with it get in touch with other girls who interest me far more and I can't use any "interference".

 

[BobTheDuck]

Of course I have different saves (Nila, Vic, Bella and Bella vs Mila): but first and foremost, I have a save where I more or less "leave everyone by the way", this also includes Nami, Zara, Nia etc. I would like to go with it get in touch with other girls who interest me far more and I can't use any "interference".

I was more mentioning it for the info in the screen capture, as you enjoy thalking about the theories - if you've gone through the whole season, let me know your thoughts about what I've hidden in the spoilers

 

[minibaer12]

I was more mentioning it for the info in the screen capture, as you enjoy thalking about the theories - if you've gone through the whole season, let me know your thoughts about what I've hidden in the spoilers

sorry, i've misunderstand your post. I'm busy right now, I'll read your spoiler later and share my thoughts with you

 

[Doomyk]

Shit dude, too much things!!!
Definitely you did a good job here and in your other post.

I can´t answer practically nothing because i have the same doubts like you know, but there are some thing i find very interesting, for example:

-"Ayua asking Bella for nudes, his dick pics'll flow around campus": Who do you think would be capable to do that to Nika? I think if we are in Bella path we can skip her, and Ayua doesn´t seems like that type of girl
Maybe if Nika is antagonized with some girl and for whatever reason this girl has his nudes could happen but i find it very diffcult to happen. (But as always i love spicy things and problems in main characters plot so i´m in for that)

-"I can't imagine Ocean will have rumours about what happens in locker rooms spreading and miss the opportunity for risky public sex.": This needs to happen, is a college and all the people are horny as fuck (except Nika).

-Cheating gossip will happen: I´m in too, this fits perfect with a college, and i want even cheat on someone, just for see what happens and how the college reacts. Maybe even if we can do Nika cheat to someone and use it like a revenge (yes, i know, i´m obsessed with revenge ). Just imagine the reputation of some popular girls like Nadia or Bella going to the trash becouse Nika has cheated.

- peeing pants in public?: Wait, What? Why you think is someone going to pee in his/her pants? That would be absolutely bad for the reputation...

I know that, but on the list:

- Stefanie is an LI, so she will be banged which also checks female professor gets banged by student, and probably impregnated. Coach Hill is probably lewdable, as I guess Ms Harrison is as well.
- Bella will get in a fight, probably more than once, likely with Kate.
- Given the lockeroom talk about cute emo boy having a giant schlong, and Ayua asking Bella for nudes, his dick pics'll flow around campus
- Police will probably arrest Bella, Nika or Mila at some point
-Multiple cheerleaders getting banged - the locker room scene with Nora, Miriam and Kate is super likely to be repeated as a lewder event.
- Getting drunk with the professors - Nika will likely find out what happens with Cindy in a RP session
- Witness two students doing it - I can't imagine Ocean will have rumours about what happens in locker rooms spreading and miss the opportunity for risky public sex.
- STD outbreak SHOULD be inevitable, but porn logic would mean there's a chance that no one ever catches anything. But the manwhore MC route will likely have lewds gallore with no romance.
- hookup with a student, probably while doing CPR on Nika, can imagine Claire will be lewdable, get in a fight with Bella, and Amber comes down to berate Claire, and Claire gets fired. Plausible.
- Cheating gossip will happen, as gossip spreads so quickly for any events on campus already.
- peeing pants in public? my money's on Ayua getting smashed on the opening of the bar.
- Professor gets breast augmentation - convenient excuse to render someone larger than Helen from WiaB, it WILL happen...

- Is Stahl the only male professor we've seen? I'm okay if that gets left off. Do Not Want.

Free the boobs, being sober, the yogurt or the used condom... well, those have humour potential. It's almost like Ocean has written a list of Steam achievements and is projecting them on Claire. I'm going to keep tabs on this over the next decade

Basically, I agree with you. With some minor nuances. Some events will probably take place behind the scenes. Cheating could already be seen, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are still pregnancies, std, etc. with other characters. The world does not revolve only around Nika.
About pissing in pants, maybe something like someone spilled water on pants and rumors spread.
About public sex. Well, Nika and Robin were *caught* in a booth. Taking into account the continuation, when Nicole took a picture of them again. Uhhhh, given the incident with the handcuffs and the fight with that idiot Sai.... I would say that Nika will soon get to know dean. I'm hoping for a hot MILF.
About the police because of the Holgersons. It seems that now problems cannot be avoided, even if we did not participate. Because now, after the rework, Nika is riding a bike anyway to warn Bella. He could easily have been noticed. And considering that Nami also left the house, she could also have problems. This, by the way, is the main reason why I always disliked the dark paths here or in Wiab. Because in the dark paths, it’s not MC who walks a dark path and is wise enough to remain pure and without bad consequences for himself, but MC who get fucked because of stupid decisions.

 

[shamtiiomi]

i need to ask before downloading the game ,but im sure someone says that the patreon version will have more scenes or the scenes are not cut in half? if worth the wait for the patron version or not?

 

[BobTheDuck]

i need to ask before downloading the game ,but im sure someone says that the patreon version will have more scenes or the scenes are not cut in half? if worth the wait for the patron version or not?

Patreon and steam versions are identical content. Download the recent compressed version and be happy.

 

[hermit_tr]

i need to ask before downloading the game ,but im sure someone says that the patreon version will have more scenes or the scenes are not cut in half? if worth the wait for the patron version or not?

There is no difference, just a misunderstanding so far.
The thing is, all content released so far (ch 5 beta) will be changed/adjusted to satisfy steam watchers. At least that's what I understand, I haven't played the newest one either.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Of course I have different saves (Nila, Vic, Bella and Bella vs Mila): but first and foremost, I have a save where I more or less "leave everyone by the way", this also includes Nami, Zara, Nia etc. I would like to go with it get in touch with other girls who interest me far more and I can't use any "interference".

So 2 have been done one the list. Nutshot and bella Nika fighting in class

 

[Your Father Adam]

John972 Doomyk minibaer12 have you done a play through without going on the heist? This is new info right?

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A couple of questions to promote thoughts in general now I *think* I've seen every render/done all the paths:

- If Nika has been charged before, was it over the violent incident? Or over Summer? Or one and the same?
- When he mentions to Amber (regarding her question that he blames himself for what happened to Summer) that "it wasn't my fault ...I had no other choice", is this perhaps something he got charged over?
- Have you noticed that immediately after the Summer incident he gets violent at school from being dead inside, but when we enter the story he is depressed: did the violent incident beat the violence out of him?

Regarding Zane relationships:
- Amber and Bella know Zoey, who knows Katie very well, so chances are Bella also is friendly to some part with Katie, especially with her connection to Ayua
- Who is Charlotte really? (Charlie) Jenna mentions that she can set up Nika with Robin, and Molly asks if Robin is Nikas GF if you have the rumour going. It seems Robin is someone important - Molly seemed excited to hear something about Robin. And the venue for the bookclub, is that Charlie's place? Or a hired venue? Or Elena's house? It feels like Robin walked down from her room. But there was also a security guard when NIka walks in, so where is this?
- Robin talks about 'Adri' so Adrianna is a friend of Robin and Sasha's well enough known to have a nickname - I think that's old info, but I didn't notice it before.
- Noji vs all these high society figures, which we already knew, but now the golf course thing is all but confirmed, and I'm pretty sure is said somewhere Noji has played golf with Nick, we have Noji knowing Elena, Scarlet, Katie (by extension Leia as the last time Katie and Leia came to the bookclub was a year ago), Amber, Emilia (all of whom are likely in WiaB), Claire, Charlie, potentially Marla. Also, I think Noji mentions Bella by name before being introduced to her - if you don't go on the heist, she mentions what Nika did to Bella as the reason for sending Nika to AMber. Long winded list, but Noji apparently knows everyone important in Wollust. So there is no hiding Nika from them, we just don't know her connection. Jenna's observations that Noji 'did the right thing' does suggest that all the well to do people know what's going on.

- I've already mentioned goth girl but I also notice her blonde friend stares at Nika quite a few times, and is in the locker room scene if Marla rescues Nika.
- Goth girl highlights the importance of the earring again, so we have Sasha, Ayua, and potentially goth girl wondering about it. If you're not on Bella's path, in ch4 Nika jokes about getting detective Nora on the case (one of the twins) - cute extra fact.

- Dwight as all but confirmed Petrova, because Sasha doesn't have a boyfriend (no NTR in SG according to Ocean's original intent, plus the fact the women at the bookclub tease Nika and Sasha, Kelly's desire to breed Sasha etc.) and she's had a hard time with men recently, plus votes to not have any new male members, so kinda an ice queen. Makes sense that Dwight has carried Ayua home before as Sasha and Ayua are close.

- Demi Hill knowing about Nika's past performance and saying that if he doesn't try out for the first team she'll put his name down herself (crushed balls path), knowing his past. Is part of Hill's plan that's approved from high up to get a new functional team including Nika's past, and that's why Nika and Nami got a scholarship (assuming the reason they didn't have a choice is because they got a scholarship that Noji couldn't refuse). So is Nika's presence actually part of the plan, and they're trying for something specifically involving him?

- Regarding rumours, if you get the locker room incident with Nora, there's new rumours at the training. Not sure if that was there before. So I guess there are rumour meters in the background, the rumours open certain paths, probably affecting the manwhore route.

- is this checklist of Claire's a list of plot devices Ocean will include? LOTS of potential fun there:

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I think we should consider Nami for that charge too. We've learned at Vic's sleepover that she is partly to blame for his ''lack of impulse control''. Also regarding that violent incident, I don't know if you've noticed but whenever Nika cuts to a flashback it's always due to something in his surroundings reminding him of the past. In the hospital he's looking at a picture of a lake surrounded by stones at the shore and some trees in the backround. Is it possible that this incident occured at a similar place, considering that the wound on his arm had some sort of pebbles in it?

 

[Doomyk]

Summers Gone is a story about hope and redemption. There will be bumps and bruises along the way, but the MC is trying to be a better person.

The biggest question arises: If this is a story about healing, why continue to throw MC into events that are completely out of his level?

 

[BobTheDuck]

I think we should consider Nami for that charge too. We've learned at Vic's sleepover that she is partly to blame for his ''lack of impulse control''. Also regarding that violent incident, I don't know if you've noticed but whenever Nika cuts to a flashback it's always due to something in his surroundings reminding him of the past. In the hospital he's looking at a picture of a lake surrounded by stones at the shore and some trees in the backround. Is it possible that this incident occured at a similar place, considering that the wound on his arm had some sort of pebbles in it?

Oh yeah, nice observations!

I suspect Nika and Nami's deal (that Nika needs to break) is tied to the issues that led to Nika being charged, and when we find out more about that, and his impluse control issues, we'll find out why Nami pulss back whenever Nika initiates things. He's right in his explanations, but I suspect there will be a further layer of meaning. We'll also find out what Nika knows about Nami that no one else suspects. That whole scene is very intriguing, and I agree that it is likely connected with the violent incident and the charge. About the image, it could be just being in the hospital, rather than the photo, because both Nika and Nami find the only lake we know about in Wollust a peaceful place. We know very little about the cabin, so it can't be discarded that the image is the trigger. About the wound, I always thought it was a render of strawberry jam though

The biggest question arises: If this is a story about healing, why continue to throw MC into events that are completely out of his level?

In essence, because if it was easy, there would be no tension. It also forces him to learn to accept help, because he is a hypocrite, like he tells Mila: we all need the hands of others to lift us up from time to time. Escalating what he can deal with on his own forces him to come out of his shell. This is also healing, but rather than solving his problems directly, he starts seeing that his belief that he is dealing with it alone is more an enemy than the circumstances.

Dwight + BB team? Initiation ritual into the BB team or some other jock thing? To check out if MC is badass or wuss?

Bella? She flips a lid after MC - Mila/Vic date?

The rumour spreading bitches from the MC/Robin toilet incident sneak peaks in the locker room?

Nami??? Horny sister need wank material and someone gets hold of it?

Exactly, if it was Ocean's bingo list, there's heaps of material that can be played with, and it's a large playing field with goals to kick everywhere (except kicks in the nuts, it's already done!)

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Dick picks - Nika gets drunk or has some sort of hazing. Dwight likes doing dick pics. Nika gets handcuffed again for something else and they do strip him. He loses a wager. It's super easy to write these things happening.

Dwight + BB team? Initiation ritual into the BB team or some other jock thing? To check out if MC is badass or wuss?

Bella? She flips a lid after MC - Mila/Vic date?

The rumour spreading bitches from the MC/Robin toilet incident sneak peaks in the locker room?

Nami??? Horny sister need wank material and someone gets hold of it?

 

[RNasc4444]

I suspect Nika and Nami's deal (that Nika needs to break) is tied to the issues that led to Nika being charged, and when we find out more about that, and his impluse control issues, we'll find out why Nami pulss back whenever Nika initiates things.

Interesting. My assumption was always that Nami became rather bitter and vindictive after being "abandoned" by Summer and the MC. And as a smart, pretty girl with an outgoing personality, I imagine she manipulated quite a few people, especially boys, and maybe even used them to take her revenge against them. At least some of the fights the MC got into may very well have been "orchestrated" by Nami as either a way to hurt him or make him fight for her.

My suspicion is that the deal they made was something along the lines of Nami not being that vindictive/manipulative person (she may have been quite the tease/flirt to get her way) anymore and the MC would stop getting into fights and trouble in general. Also they agreed to keep their deal/promise to each other secret and never to speak of it again.

 

[Doomyk]

In essence, because if it was easy, there would be no tension. It also forces him to learn to accept help, because he is a hypocrite, like he tells Mila: we all need the hands of others to lift us up from time to time. Escalating what he can deal with on his own forces him to come out of his shell. This is also healing, but rather than solving his problems directly, he starts seeing that his belief that he is dealing with it alone is more an enemy than the circumstances.

I understand that without tension it wouldn’t be so interesting. But the problem is that Nika’s tension level is a fight with Sai or a fight with Bella(for example). But certainly not Holgerson or the same Melanie. Nik has neither powerful support nor abilities. Such people capable of crushing him like an ant. And excuse me, but often what Nika gets for friendship does not correspond to the price. Friendship with Mila for enemies in the form of the rich and influential, Victoria’s friendship for Melanie’s enemy, etc. And the benefits of such friendship are doubtful. The only exception - Bella. A useful friend, a lot of connections, asks Aya to teach Nika how to fight, teaches him to drive, makes him look like a human, thanks to her Nika gets 10k. Question, what is the material benefit from Mila or Victoria besides a bunch of problems?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Interesting. My assumption was always that Nami became rather bitter and vindictive after being "abandoned" by Summer and the MC. And as a smart, pretty girl with an outgoing personality, I imagine she manipulated quite a few people, especially boys, and maybe even used them to take her revenge against them. At least some of the fights the MC got into may very well have been "orchestrated" by Nami as either a way to hurt him or make him fight for her.

My suspicion is that the deal they made was something along the lines of Nami not being that vindictive/manipulative person (she may have been quite the tease/flirt to get her way) anymore and the MC would stop getting into fights and trouble in general. Also they agreed to keep their deal/promise to each other secret and never to speak of it again.

Mostly I thought the same, but Nika mentioning he has to break the deal and tell Amber implies it's ongoing. It could well be something that's buried, but why would there be so much trepidation and reluctance from Nami over telling about a deal to stop Nika fighting? When Nika talks about Nami being part of the reason he is the way he is and that it's not just Summer (implied) that has caused his problems, he acknowledges that unless he reveals all the trauma, Amber won't be able to help him..

So Nami becoming bitter and revenge flirting, putting Nika in awkward situations, I believe you've got it right, but what triggered her to do that right after Summer's finally out of her way and she gets Nika back to herself? Surely she'd want to just calm him down, but we know from Nia that Nika changed dramatically - we see him in class with Summer, and whenever he's with SUmmer, he's pretty happy. Nami's personality while SUmmer's around could get vindictive, but it seems like Nami being interested in boys was after Summer disappeared.

I understand that without tension it wouldn’t be so interesting. But the problem is that Nika’s tension level is a fight with Sai or a fight with Bella(for example). But certainly not Holgerson or the same Melanie. Nik has neither powerful support nor abilities. Such people capable of crushing him like an ant. And excuse me, but often what Nika gets for friendship does not correspond to the price. Friendship with Mila for enemies in the form of the rich and influential, Victoria’s friendship for Melanie’s enemy, etc. And the benefits of such friendship are doubtful. The only exception - Bella. A useful friend, a lot of connections, asks Aya to teach Nika how to fight, teaches him to drive, makes him look like a human, thanks to her Nika gets 10k. Question, what is the material benefit from Mila or Victoria besides a bunch of problems?

The cheap answer is Nika thinks his plans are better than Nami's That's actually probably the correct answer. He believes he's more competent than he is.

As far as what he gets, he's not thinking like that. Sometimes he's rational, other times, he just acts. Part of his problem is learning to control his impulses, even if he needs to relax and learn to have sexual impulses. All his judgment comes from a skewed perspective. He makes allies, not to benefit himself as he mentions to Noji, he burdens himself trying to force himself to be normal without knowing what normal is. I don't doubt that he could be crushed, but he is willing to make decisions without thinkijng about consequences.

HIs actions forgiving Zara, forgiving Robin and getting them on his side is making powerful friends, we just don't know all of the politics at play.

And of course, Nami has an earring which can call up the living ghost of Gefritzel like a pokemon or something! And the raccoon is out there, maybe to be wone over and fight Stefan's cat!

 

[Don Sucio]

The thing he can't let slide is that they used Nami against him, and he is trying to find out who decided to do this.

Coach Hill is the one who gave them the hand-cuffs and, IMO, told them to get the hate out of their systems.

About Zara/Nadia/Nika revenge: Zara is quicksilver, gets mad quickly and leaves quickly. Nika's trying to be a better person. The motives between the change surprise Nick as well, but as Vanessa says Zara will either kill him or jump him. With Nadia, she seems more passive. I guess keep in mind Coach Hill organised this, probably to see how Nika deals with it, considering how interested she was in his past, and she has plans for him for the first team. This means Zara or Nadia didn't come up with the plan - it was planted when Hill took them aside. So Nadia's just going along with the flow. Nika again, he can use it to his benefit, if you're no on Bella's path and Nadia owes him a favour. So I don't think it's quite as big a deal as people make it out, and if Coach Hill hands Nika the key because Marla frees you instead of Bella, Nika knows who is really responsible.

Interesting, so probably the plan to handcuff Nika is from Coach Hill? Then i have to add that bitch to the list too

It makes sense that in a way to keep the team united and concentrated, Coach Hill gave them the handcuffs , but this is a brave movement for her part. She doesn´t know how can react Nika so is an all or nothing bet, because if Nika react bad then she could has lost a player , but well, that didn´t happen so

But then we have the foot of Zara, i don´t think that part was an idea from Coach Hill too, and it seems this action of Zara was more a sporadic action, because she is leaving but then she returns an put her foot in his mouth , is this action what upset me more, is like a direct threat to Nika, and i´m pretty sure anyone will let slide if someone put a foot in our mouth, without consent

About the favors i think Nadia is one of the most important girls to have in debt, she is popular, has a reputation to be undateable and she is friend with Bella´s group and Zara, good connections.

Edit, i forget to mention the idea of use Nami for take Nika to the locker room : It can be possible that is just the idea who had Robin for call Nika´s attention? Or maybe is something more?

Zara and Nadia said that they didn´t know even what to do when Nika was handcuffed so i suppose it wasn´t their idea. But they said they were harsh with Robin, how hard? Now i want to know what debt Robin had with Zara for do that...

 

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The MC could have stopped them - but he chose to let them take their revenge this way so that they could get it out of their system.

He was manipulating them so that his team would win the BB scrimmage.

He is very 'people' smart - although not as smart as he likes to believe, OC.

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THE MC is trying to change, and he could have stopped them but chose not to - believing that they needed this and giving them this 'win' was good for them and for him in the long run.

The thing he can't let slide is that they used Nami against him, and he is trying to find out who decided to do this.

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Summers Gone is a story about hope and redemption. There will be bumps and bruises along the way, but the MC is trying to be a better person.

We've seen hints that something bad has happened to at least one of Nadia's family members - hence her strong reaction to being accused about using Nami against the MC.

I think Ocean resolved the locker room prank in a way that the MC, Zara and Nadia can live with.

I think you will be missing out if you stop enjoying SG just because you did not get to take revenge on Nadia.

It's not like she high fived Sai and his two friends, all with baseball bats, as she and Zara left the locker room - leaving the MC unable to defend himself.

If you have not played the non-Bella path, you are also missing something interesting...

Coach Hill is the one who gave them the hand-cuffs and, IMO, told them to get the hate out of their systems.

Cheers!!

Oh well guess im missing out then. Thanks for you option i understand where you are coming from.

 

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Interesting, so probably the plan to handcuff Nika is from Coach Hill? Then i have to add that bitch to the list too

It makes sense that in a way to keep the team united and concentrated, Coach Hill gave them the handcuffs , but this is a brave movement for her part. She doesn´t know how can react Nika so is an all or nothing bet, because if Nika react bad then she could has lost a player , but well, that didn´t happen so

But then we have the foot of Zara, i don´t think that part was an idea from Coach Hill too, and it seems this action of Zara was more a sporadic action, because she is leaving but then she returns an put her foot in his mouth , is this action what upset me more, is like a direct threat to Nika, and i´m pretty sure anyone will let slide if someone put a foot in our mouth, without consent

About the favors i think Nadia is one of the most important girls to have in debt, she is popular, has a reputation to be undateable and she is friend with Bella´s group and Zara, good connections.

Edit, i forget to mention the idea of use Nami for take Nika to the locker room : It can be possible that is just the idea who had Robin for call Nika´s attention? Or maybe is something more?

Zara and Nadia said that they didn´t know even what to do when Nika was handcuffed so i suppose it wasn´t their idea. But they said they were harsh with Robin, how hard? Now i want to know what debt Robin had with Zara for do that...

If you haven't done a non Bella path, it is worth doing to see all the different perspectives. Even things like not going to the gym with Jeff adds new information that you don't get. I think the simplest way to see it is you can't get all the same dialogues depending on who you take to the gym, so you have to reload to see them all, the whole game is like that. Although the choices seem small, later on, they often have revealed something in context. So if you do a non Bella path don't go on the heist so she breaks you balls, you visit Claire, find out more about Coach Hill. Then don't say you make a good team with Bella, and you don't kiss her (the options probably not there if you don't go on the heist), you'll get the alternate scene where Marla rescues you instead of Bella, it's hilarious, but you learn a lot about the coach, and Nadia and Zara owe you.