VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[N1ghtcrawler]

About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be what consequences Bella and Nika face. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. Otherwise, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.

 

[Don Sucio]

Okay, now I'm seriously intrigued. Who's that enchanting figure? She keeps popping up in the background, sometimes at the most perfect moments. Any theories?
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You know, it's kind of amusing how frequently her silhouette appears in the background. I mean, sure, she might be Sasha's bodyguard, but it feels like she's popping up more often than your average background security detail:

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The moment she and Sasha appear in the fight againts Sai is suspicious for me, the class finished and all of them leave, except Sai, the other guy and Nika, i think the girls listened the fight and decided to interrupt them , why? I don´t know.

Or maybe they forgot something, their bag or some books.

About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be how they affect Nika and Bella. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. If there are no consequences, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.

Yeah, as Nika would say: Actions have consequences.

But is part of their behaviour, Nika is a problematic guy and Bella too, i´m pretty sure will be more and worse problems caused by them...

 

[Adhdclassic]

The jacuzzi scene is the next scene that needs to be uncensored. All the titties that have been shown that shouldn't be a problem. Plus for some odd reason I liked when Vanessa stuck her finger in Nami mouth. UNCENSOR JACUZZI.

 

[BobTheDuck]

About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be what consequences Bella and Nika face. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. If there are no consequences, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.

I have no likes left, but yes I agree, there needs to be some sort of recognition in the story that they are not heroes, that there are no excuses for that behaviour. Nika excalated hard against Mario simply because he was calling Mila names - the whole plan everything there is purely based on Nika's inability to let it slide. He then triggers Bella, and can't back down, which leads to the heist, which leads to the need to do something against Stefan indirectly, and on it goes. We thing find out Mila's history with Mario in Ch4.5 and what he was like back then, which further weakens any sense of justification.

The only reason I can see that Ocean will let them off the hook is a close shave. Stefan decides to go cloak and dagger, and not do things legally, everyone plays morally ambigious roles, we find out the levels of corruption mean there will never be justice. In such a scenario, there might not be any sense in justice, other than walking away. Some things cant be fixed through an eye for an eye.

But for that to work, Ocean really will have to work hard to make the reasons for grace very compelling.

The jacuzzi scene is the next scene that needs to be uncensored. All the titties that have been shown that shouldn't be a problem. Plus for some odd reason I liked when Vanessa stuck her finger in Nami mouth. UNCENSOR JACUZZI.

Very unlikely - penises would put it in 18+ so the animation is long gone. The visual side of it, well the argument that they're actually just using a jacuzzi to relax, rather than as a lewd thing makes more sense to me - even if Vanessa is very open minded, she's known these two strange people for a couple of hours in the game. It makes it a more conversational scene, which suits the situation better, and highlights the sensuality of the strip show Vanessa gave Nika as an intimate action.

Honestly, the timeline is still a mystery. Especially after Nojiko's rework. It is not yet clear whether Nojiko immediately took the children to her or not. However, the first flashback in chronology shows us how Nami returns from the camp (the religious camp mentioned in Wiab?) with a new friend. Nika acted like a normal guy for his age. After Summer said that she liked MC, Nami made her first move - she tried to embarrass Nika. Then a series of small flashbacks show how the three of them became friends. However, Nami made her second move - she tried to copy Summer. The turning point was Amber's second flashback, when Summer kissed Nika. From that moment, their friendship with Nami began to crumble. In Nami's eyes, she became the third wheel. It is not entirely clear whether this really happened or Nami began to try to pull the blanket over herself, that even the incredibly kind Summer began to find her annoying. Next is the most mysterious flashback. Meeting Elsa. From here we learn that Aunt Summer strongly controls Elsa’s figure, considers Nik a bad influence for Summer. It’s not entirely clear, this because of the financial situation of Nika's family or possible grievances related to Summer's parents or perhaps even Nik's parents. However, it is still a big mystery where Summer lived, who her parents were. The last flashback - Summer has to leave for a couple of weeks, and she he is very afraid of something. This is where the clear things end, and the rest is left to guess.

After Summer disappeared, Nika changed a lot, became more wild. He also got closer to Nami again, switched his attention to her, began to manipulate and fight. From here I have 2 theories. 1-Nika began to take revenge on Nami for what she did. 2-Nika, consciously or subconsciously, also had feelings for Nami.
Nami's solo path, the scene by the lake shows the audience a scene of not only Nick smoking, but also Nami smoking, obviously not for the first time. Considering how Ocean likes to attach importance to such things, they were both rowdy. Towards the end of high school, there was a terrible incident. Nika was hospitalized. After that, they made a certain agreement. The details are not clear, but there are a few clues. They clearly agreed to remain silent about certain things. Nika forgave Nami. However, everything had its price. Both of them changed again. Especially Nik, of whom only a shadow remained.

There are still a couple of questions left. Who is this blonde with whom Nika ran away in the rain? The only thing I remember is SG, the very first version, meeting Victoria in the rain. After the rework, this scene changed.
Second question: If Nika and Nami didn't have any relationship in the past, does Nika understand that Nami always had feelings and not just now?
Third question: Did Summer realize that Nami had feelings?
The fourth and most important question: Were they really not in a relationship? Nojiko’s reaction is too strong for just a joke in the style of *I’ll make you eat tits*.

Really well said! A couple of minor observations - we know that Summer's parents and aunt thought Nika was trash - that Summer would end up in a trailer park drinking beer. I am not certain that the deal necessarily relates to the violent incident. It could be mutual silence over something illegal they got into, that lead to Nika being charged ...I just had the thought that Nika might have been charged with something because Nami called Laverne actually Anyway, I think there is a very real possibility that the unspoken deal has something disturbing, related to how Nami is inside. The deal is certainly about a secret, but given the way they speak while walking, and the speech if you have a change of perception, the unspoken thing is deep. There is a lot to consider about this indeed.

 

[Thriller]

Ocean is crazy... imagine creating a creature as perfect as Bella and then giving us another one just like her. Between the 2 of them and Amber I dunno even what to do... Too much hotness overload in a single family.

I wonder how this guy is feeling after learning that Bella has a TWIN sister

 

[Innocent->Devil]

Are they going to release SG1 and SG2 in theaters?

 

[Drakenite]

This game is missing Superpowers tag. Characters can teleport.

 

[Winterstale]

I wonder how this guy is feeling after learning that Bella has a TWIN sister

... not sure about his feelings, but as the player tagging along with his story and occasionally nudging it, I sort of feel like:

 

[Doomyk]

Mostly I thought the same, but Nika mentioning he has to break the deal and tell Amber implies it's ongoing. It could well be something that's buried, but why would there be so much trepidation and reluctance from Nami over telling about a deal to stop Nika fighting? When Nika talks about Nami being part of the reason he is the way he is and that it's not just Summer (implied) that has caused his problems, he acknowledges that unless he reveals all the trauma, Amber won't be able to help him..

So Nami becoming bitter and revenge flirting, putting Nika in awkward situations, I believe you've got it right, but what triggered her to do that right after Summer's finally out of her way and she gets Nika back to herself? Surely she'd want to just calm him down, but we know from Nia that Nika changed dramatically - we see him in class with Summer, and whenever he's with SUmmer, he's pretty happy. Nami's personality while SUmmer's around could get vindictive, but it seems like Nami being interested in boys was after Summer disappeared.

Honestly, the timeline is still a mystery. Especially after Nojiko's rework. It is not yet clear whether Nojiko immediately took the children to her or not. However, the first flashback in chronology shows us how Nami returns from the camp (the religious camp mentioned in Wiab?) with a new friend. Nika acted like a normal guy for his age. After Summer said that she liked MC, Nami made her first move - she tried to embarrass Nika. Then a series of small flashbacks show how the three of them became friends. However, Nami made her second move - she tried to copy Summer. The turning point was Amber's second flashback, when Summer kissed Nika. From that moment, their friendship with Nami began to crumble. In Nami's eyes, she became the third wheel. It is not entirely clear whether this really happened or Nami began to try to pull the blanket over herself, that even the incredibly kind Summer began to find her annoying. Next is the most mysterious flashback. Meeting Elsa. From here we learn that Aunt Summer strongly controls Elsa’s figure, considers Nik a bad influence for Summer. It’s not entirely clear, this because of the financial situation of Nika's family or possible grievances related to Summer's parents or perhaps even Nik's parents. However, it is still a big mystery where Summer lived, who her parents were. The last flashback - Summer has to leave for a couple of weeks, and she he is very afraid of something. This is where the clear things end, and the rest is left to guess.

After Summer disappeared, Nika changed a lot, became more wild. He also got closer to Nami again, switched his attention to her, began to manipulate and fight. From here I have 2 theories. 1-Nika began to take revenge on Nami for what she did. 2-Nika, consciously or subconsciously, also had feelings for Nami.
Nami's solo path, the scene by the lake shows the audience a scene of not only Nick smoking, but also Nami smoking, obviously not for the first time. Considering how Ocean likes to attach importance to such things, they were both rowdy. Towards the end of high school, there was a terrible incident. Nika was hospitalized. After that, they made a certain agreement. The details are not clear, but there are a few clues. They clearly agreed to remain silent about certain things. Nika forgave Nami. However, everything had its price. Both of them changed again. Especially Nik, of whom only a shadow remained.

There are still a couple of questions left. Who is this blonde with whom Nika ran away in the rain? The only thing I remember is SG, the very first version, meeting Victoria in the rain. After the rework, this scene changed.
Second question: If Nika and Nami didn't have any relationship in the past, does Nika understand that Nami always had feelings and not just now?
Third question: Did Summer realize that Nami had feelings?
The fourth and most important question: Were they really not in a relationship? Nojiko’s reaction is too strong for just a joke in the style of *I’ll make you eat tits*.

 

[Azsouth]

so a guy who can craft a story like this neuters the game and doesn't consider the ramifications of that once people who have been following or supporting him find out? seems like after 5 years he wanted to put something on a wider market so he could milk what little extra he could out of the game before abandoning it or calling it complete like other devs do. There isn't really another path other than abandonment once you start butchering your own game and w/ the time it takes for an update I personally doubt that another season or however many would ever be completed, hell we waited, what? 9 months for half a chapter? Whats the point of a good story that will never be completed on an adult game site that has all the adult content removed, while teasing/trolling/and blueballing everyone who has followed the game for years w/ sex scenes that will never come.

 

[mostwanted8]

There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. Otherwise, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.

There were consequences, Mila is in danger because of Nika and Bella as you say. They didn't face harsh consequences but they both showed regret for what they did. Ties perfectly with the theme of the game, if you get too reckless you or the people you love might pay the price, so is revenge really worth it in the end? Nika and Bella learned something valuable this way.
What about Bella in the restaurant? The regret she showed is telling of the change that sparked inside her. She felt bad for what she did and will have more of a coscience in the future. She has discovered by hurting someone she doesn't actually want to be a bad person. We have seen this already, she has grown much softer since the start.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I have no likes left, but yes I agree, there needs to be some sort of recognition in the story that they are not heroes, that there are no excuses for that behaviour. Nika excalated hard against Mario simply because he was calling Mila names - the whole plan everything there is purely based on Nika's inability to let it slide. He then triggers Bella, and can't back down, which leads to the heist, which leads to the need to do something against Stefan indirectly, and on it goes. We thing find out Mila's history with Mario in Ch4.5 and what he was like back then, which further weakens any sense of justification.

The only reason I can see that Ocean will let them off the hook is a close shave. Stefan decides to go cloak and dagger, and not do things legally, everyone plays morally ambigious roles, we find out the levels of corruption mean there will never be justice. In such a scenario, there might not be any sense in justice, other than walking away. Some things cant be fixed through an eye for an eye.

But for that to work, Ocean really will have to work hard to make the reasons for grace very compelling.



Very unlikely - penises would put it in 18+ so the animation is long gone. The visual side of it, well the argument that they're actually just using a jacuzzi to relax, rather than as a lewd thing makes more sense to me - even if Vanessa is very open minded, she's known these two strange people for a couple of hours in the game. It makes it a more conversational scene, which suits the situation better, and highlights the sensuality of the strip show Vanessa gave Nika as an intimate action.

I just want to see titties,penises need not apply

 

[Prokopije]

Hello. Anybody knows how to disable giving names to saves? Dev didn't included options to turn it on or off in the settings, so which lines in script I need to delete or modify?

 

[yossa999]

There were consequences, Mila is in danger because of Nika and Bella as you say. They didn't face harsh consequences but they both showed regret for what they did. Ties perfectly with the theme of the game, if you get too reckless you or the people you love might pay the price, so is revenge really worth it in the end? Nika and Bella learned something valuable this way.

It's not like Bella learned anything. The lady cop had not yet drove away far enough, and Bella had already nearly run over the racer who was bothering her. And then she told Nika that she didn’t care.
Nah,prison is her future... It’s good that the comatose Von Halen is in stock.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Hello. Anybody knows how to disable giving names to saves? Dev didn't included options to turn it on or off in the settings, so which lines in script I need to delete or modify?

Just hit enter, and it will save without typing a name.

 

[Prokopije]

Just hit enter, and it will save without typing a name.

Yes, I know that, it works with right mouse click as well, but it's annoying to do double click every time, so need some permanent solution.

 

[mostwanted8]

It's not like Bella learned anything. The lady cop had not yet drove away far enough, and Bella had already nearly run over the racer who was bothering her. And then she told Nika that she didn’t care.
Nah,prison is her future... It’s good that the comatose Von Halen is in stock.

To be fair the guy and Bella have a past of rivalry and Bella is a vengeful person (something that's not completely healthy but I can get behind her line of thought). It's how she deals with her enemies or anybody who threatens her. The guy was a prick, he had it coming. There's a difference between hurting good people and punishing the bad guys.
Bella was all fired up because of the encounter with the lady cop. She would have done the same to that dude since he had mocked Nika and we have seen Bella is protective of him. She has taken him under her wing, you hurt him, you're fucked. Bella's problem is her anger, it's her defense mechanism. It's something she needs to work on and she will. At that point she'll be able to deal with stuff in a more measured way instead of resorting to excess anytime.
The prison thing, it makes for a fun joke. Bella has done some petty stuff and is a criminal in the eyes of the law but she doesn't deserve to end up in prison.

 

[yossa999]

To be fair the guy the guy and Bella have a past of rivalry and Bella is a vengeful person (something that's not completely healthy but I can get behind her line of thought). It's how she deals with her enemies or anybody who threatens her. The guy was a prick, he had it coming. There's a difference between hurting good people and punishing the bad guys.
Bella was all fired up because of the encounter with the lady cop. She would have done the same to that dude since he had mocked Nika and we have seen Bella is protective of him. She has taken him under her wing, you hurt him, you're fucked. Bella's problem is her anger, it's her defense mechanism. It's something she needs to work on and she will. At that point she'll be able to deal with stuff in a more measured way instead of resorting to excess anytime.
The prison thing, it makes for a fun joke. Bella has done some petty stuff and is a criminal in the eyes of the law but she doesn't deserve to end up in prison.

I agree with everything, but the conclusion remains the same: she has defiantly broken the law several times, and with someone as persistent and determined to put her in prison as Ceril's big sis, she is heading straight there.

 

[Doomyk]

The biggest possible spoiler was from Ocean, when people asked a question about Sasha’s romantic path. The meaning of the answer was something like that, in principle, it is possible that Nika will travel halfway across the country to see her. Which is clearly could be a spoiler, that at least Sasha is in some point in the story will be very far away.
The most important question is, what if this concerns everyone? What if Nika at some point in the story is forced to leave Wollust?

 

[rafa30]

Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC

Chapter 5 Beta

any difference between the two versions?
which is the most complete?