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Doomyk

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Mostly I thought the same, but Nika mentioning he has to break the deal and tell Amber implies it's ongoing. It could well be something that's buried, but why would there be so much trepidation and reluctance from Nami over telling about a deal to stop Nika fighting? When Nika talks about Nami being part of the reason he is the way he is and that it's not just Summer (implied) that has caused his problems, he acknowledges that unless he reveals all the trauma, Amber won't be able to help him..

So Nami becoming bitter and revenge flirting, putting Nika in awkward situations, I believe you've got it right, but what triggered her to do that right after Summer's finally out of her way and she gets Nika back to herself? Surely she'd want to just calm him down, but we know from Nia that Nika changed dramatically - we see him in class with Summer, and whenever he's with SUmmer, he's pretty happy. Nami's personality while SUmmer's around could get vindictive, but it seems like Nami being interested in boys was after Summer disappeared.
Honestly, the timeline is still a mystery. Especially after Nojiko's rework. It is not yet clear whether Nojiko immediately took the children to her or not. However, the first flashback in chronology shows us how Nami returns from the camp (the religious camp mentioned in Wiab?) with a new friend. Nika acted like a normal guy for his age. After Summer said that she liked MC, Nami made her first move - she tried to embarrass Nika. Then a series of small flashbacks show how the three of them became friends. However, Nami made her second move - she tried to copy Summer. The turning point was Amber's second flashback, when Summer kissed Nika. From that moment, their friendship with Nami began to crumble. In Nami's eyes, she became the third wheel. It is not entirely clear whether this really happened or Nami began to try to pull the blanket over herself, that even the incredibly kind Summer began to find her annoying. Next is the most mysterious flashback. Meeting Elsa. From here we learn that Aunt Summer strongly controls Elsa’s figure, considers Nik a bad influence for Summer. It’s not entirely clear, this because of the financial situation of Nika's family or possible grievances related to Summer's parents or perhaps even Nik's parents. However, it is still a big mystery where Summer lived, who her parents were. The last flashback - Summer has to leave for a couple of weeks, and she he is very afraid of something. This is where the clear things end, and the rest is left to guess.

After Summer disappeared, Nika changed a lot, became more wild. He also got closer to Nami again, switched his attention to her, began to manipulate and fight. From here I have 2 theories. 1-Nika began to take revenge on Nami for what she did. 2-Nika, consciously or subconsciously, also had feelings for Nami.
Nami's solo path, the scene by the lake shows the audience a scene of not only Nick smoking, but also Nami smoking, obviously not for the first time. Considering how Ocean likes to attach importance to such things, they were both rowdy. Towards the end of high school, there was a terrible incident. Nika was hospitalized. After that, they made a certain agreement. The details are not clear, but there are a few clues. They clearly agreed to remain silent about certain things. Nika forgave Nami. However, everything had its price. Both of them changed again. Especially Nik, of whom only a shadow remained.

There are still a couple of questions left. Who is this blonde with whom Nika ran away in the rain? The only thing I remember is SG, the very first version, meeting Victoria in the rain. After the rework, this scene changed.
Second question: If Nika and Nami didn't have any relationship in the past, does Nika understand that Nami always had feelings and not just now?
Third question: Did Summer realize that Nami had feelings?
The fourth and most important question: Were they really not in a relationship? Nojiko’s reaction is too strong for just a joke in the style of *I’ll make you eat tits*.
 

Azsouth

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so a guy who can craft a story like this neuters the game and doesn't consider the ramifications of that once people who have been following or supporting him find out? seems like after 5 years he wanted to put something on a wider market so he could milk what little extra he could out of the game before abandoning it or calling it complete like other devs do. There isn't really another path other than abandonment once you start butchering your own game and w/ the time it takes for an update I personally doubt that another season or however many would ever be completed, hell we waited, what? 9 months for half a chapter? Whats the point of a good story that will never be completed on an adult game site that has all the adult content removed, while teasing/trolling/and blueballing everyone who has followed the game for years w/ sex scenes that will never come.
 

mostwanted8

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There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. Otherwise, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.
There were consequences, Mila is in danger because of Nika and Bella as you say. They didn't face harsh consequences but they both showed regret for what they did. Ties perfectly with the theme of the game, if you get too reckless you or the people you love might pay the price, so is revenge really worth it in the end? Nika and Bella learned something valuable this way.
What about Bella in the restaurant? The regret she showed is telling of the change that sparked inside her. She felt bad for what she did and will have more of a coscience in the future. She has discovered by hurting someone she doesn't actually want to be a bad person. We have seen this already, she has grown much softer since the start.
 
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I have no likes left, but yes I agree, there needs to be some sort of recognition in the story that they are not heroes, that there are no excuses for that behaviour. Nika excalated hard against Mario simply because he was calling Mila names - the whole plan everything there is purely based on Nika's inability to let it slide. He then triggers Bella, and can't back down, which leads to the heist, which leads to the need to do something against Stefan indirectly, and on it goes. We thing find out Mila's history with Mario in Ch4.5 and what he was like back then, which further weakens any sense of justification.

The only reason I can see that Ocean will let them off the hook is a close shave. Stefan decides to go cloak and dagger, and not do things legally, everyone plays morally ambigious roles, we find out the levels of corruption mean there will never be justice. In such a scenario, there might not be any sense in justice, other than walking away. Some things cant be fixed through an eye for an eye.

But for that to work, Ocean really will have to work hard to make the reasons for grace very compelling.



Very unlikely - penises would put it in 18+ so the animation is long gone. The visual side of it, well the argument that they're actually just using a jacuzzi to relax, rather than as a lewd thing makes more sense to me - even if Vanessa is very open minded, she's known these two strange people for a couple of hours in the game. It makes it a more conversational scene, which suits the situation better, and highlights the sensuality of the strip show Vanessa gave Nika as an intimate action.
I just want to see titties,penises need not apply
 

Prokopije

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Hello. Anybody knows how to disable giving names to saves? Dev didn't included options to turn it on or off in the settings, so which lines in script I need to delete or modify?
 

yossa999

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There were consequences, Mila is in danger because of Nika and Bella as you say. They didn't face harsh consequences but they both showed regret for what they did. Ties perfectly with the theme of the game, if you get too reckless you or the people you love might pay the price, so is revenge really worth it in the end? Nika and Bella learned something valuable this way.
It's not like Bella learned anything. The lady cop had not yet drove away far enough, and Bella had already nearly run over the racer who was bothering her. And then she told Nika that she didn’t care.
Nah,prison is her future... It’s good that the comatose Von Halen is in stock.
 

mostwanted8

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It's not like Bella learned anything. The lady cop had not yet drove away far enough, and Bella had already nearly run over the racer who was bothering her. And then she told Nika that she didn’t care.
Nah,prison is her future... It’s good that the comatose Von Halen is in stock.
To be fair the guy and Bella have a past of rivalry and Bella is a vengeful person (something that's not completely healthy but I can get behind her line of thought). It's how she deals with her enemies or anybody who threatens her. The guy was a prick, he had it coming. There's a difference between hurting good people and punishing the bad guys.
Bella was all fired up because of the encounter with the lady cop. She would have done the same to that dude since he had mocked Nika and we have seen Bella is protective of him. She has taken him under her wing, you hurt him, you're fucked. Bella's problem is her anger, it's her defense mechanism. It's something she needs to work on and she will. At that point she'll be able to deal with stuff in a more measured way instead of resorting to excess anytime.
The prison thing, it makes for a fun joke. Bella has done some petty stuff and is a criminal in the eyes of the law but she doesn't deserve to end up in prison.
 
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yossa999

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To be fair the guy the guy and Bella have a past of rivalry and Bella is a vengeful person (something that's not completely healthy but I can get behind her line of thought). It's how she deals with her enemies or anybody who threatens her. The guy was a prick, he had it coming. There's a difference between hurting good people and punishing the bad guys.
Bella was all fired up because of the encounter with the lady cop. She would have done the same to that dude since he had mocked Nika and we have seen Bella is protective of him. She has taken him under her wing, you hurt him, you're fucked. Bella's problem is her anger, it's her defense mechanism. It's something she needs to work on and she will. At that point she'll be able to deal with stuff in a more measured way instead of resorting to excess anytime.
The prison thing, it makes for a fun joke. Bella has done some petty stuff and is a criminal in the eyes of the law but she doesn't deserve to end up in prison.
I agree with everything, but the conclusion remains the same: she has defiantly broken the law several times, and with someone as persistent and determined to put her in prison as Ceril's big sis, she is heading straight there.
 

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The biggest possible spoiler was from Ocean, when people asked a question about Sasha’s romantic path. The meaning of the answer was something like that, in principle, it is possible that Nika will travel halfway across the country to see her. Which is clearly could be a spoiler, that at least Sasha is in some point in the story will be very far away.
The most important question is, what if this concerns everyone? What if Nika at some point in the story is forced to leave Wollust?
 

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Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC

Chapter 5 Beta

any difference between the two versions?
which is the most complete?
 

Dessolos

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I agree with everything, but the conclusion remains the same: she has defiantly broken the law several times, and with someone as persistent and determined to put her in prison as Ceril's big sis, she is heading straight there.
Honestly after Chapter 5 my biggest fear for this game is Bella getting arrested. Not something id personally want to see as it will be an extremely sad scene for me id think. But I know it's going to happen at some point and to make it worst probably will be the cliffhanger ending of an update.
 
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mostwanted8

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with someone as persistent and determined to put her in prison as Ceril's big sis, she is heading straight there.
Honestly after Chapter 5 my biggest fear for this game is Bella getting arrested.
Bella will be arrested at some point. It's only a matter of time before she gets caught illegaly racing. The lady cop will take her in for questioning, at that point her rich mom will bail her out. Ceril's sis is gonna need a more serious charge or multiple charges to put the menace behind bars.
Despite this Bella will have a happy ending. That is unless Ocean gives us the option to completely screw her up and help Ceril's sis in her mission, in which case we might go down as well if we have been Bella's accomplice. A dark ending considering the overall theme of the game but it could happen.
I was surprised that the Holgersons don't have hidden cameras in their house, Bella and Nika stupidly didn't think about that. Bella (and us) would be fucked if it could be proved she was the one who broke and entered and stole from the Holgersons. She should be more careful in the future and we as Nika will get a chance to influence her path for good or bad. Depending on our choices she might stay stuck in her ways or stop endangering herself for good.
 

Dessolos

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Bella will be arrested at some point. It's only a matter of time before she gets caught illegaly racing. The lady cop will take her in for questioning, at that point her rich mom will bail her out. Ceril's sis is gonna need a more serious charge or multiple charges to put the menace behind bars.
Despite this Bella will have a happy ending. That is unless Ocean gives us the option to completely screw her up and help Ceril's sis in her mission, in which case we might go down as well if we have been Bella's accomplice. A dark ending considering the overall theme of the game but it could happen.
I was surprised that the Holgersons don't have hidden cameras in their house, Bella and Nika stupidly didn't think about that. Bella (and us) would be fucked if it could be proved she was the one who broke and entered and stole from the Holgersons. She should be more careful in the future and we as Nika will get a chance to influence her path for good or bad. Depending on our choices she might stay stuck in her ways or stop endangering herself for good.
yeah my guess it will be related to street racing. But I do hope her mother does bail her out like you said id hate to see it and for it go on for too long even tho realistically probably shouldn't be a quick thing. I always kind of assumed Nika will be arrested with her too for what don't know.
 

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I agree with everything, but the conclusion remains the same: she has defiantly broken the law several times, and with someone as persistent and determined to put her in prison as Ceril's big sis, she is heading straight there.
I'm starting to think about this in a slightly different way - the way Nika took the money was out of character. Consider the way he is so proper about the holy box of shame, accusing Nami of having no respect, same with Nick's motorbike. His whole character is reserved about belongings and hard work. He is not an opportunist, or chaotic. Even his mantra of actions having consequences goes against what he did.If you chose not to go on the heist, he still wants Bella to know, so he 'does the right thing' as he's going on the heist to make up for the asshole he was to her.

In context of this, the petty theft makes no sense. Regardless of the amount and the oppulent heirlooms, Nika is going against the rules that he tends to set himself. The same thing when he's looking at the decoration at the book club. It feels like an addition to make it seem like he's a kleptomaniac.

But maybe instead of it being a direct characterisation, Ocean is trying to show the vast divide between Nika and Bella/Mario's world. For Bella, she knows 9K is nothing. SHe drops 18.5k on the clothes, as well as buying dinner. She's acting on like it's a prank, like there will never be consequences. To some extent, Ocean is drawing the divide that Nika hates to put him firmly in the poor person who steals from the rich, 'after all, Mario can spare it'. Maybe the point of the scene is to set the difference in behaviours in our mind, in a short space of time, so the whole scene is less about what happens but how they react, how they act as an exposition.

Also, not saying there won't be consequences, but it's really a question of what Ocean uses the metaphors and subtext od thes scenes for.

The biggest possible spoiler was from Ocean, when people asked a question about Sasha’s romantic path. The meaning of the answer was something like that, in principle, it is possible that Nika will travel halfway across the country to see her. Which is clearly could be a spoiler, that at least Sasha is in some point in the story will be very far away.
The most important question is, what if this concerns everyone? What if Nika at some point in the story is forced to leave Wollust?
Wow.

Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC

Chapter 5 Beta


any difference between the two versions?
which is the most complete?
S1 Steam is the complete season. Ch5 Beta is a work in progress that was completed with S1 Steam.

Some people are upset that there are things changed from the beta to season 1, but the dev has released S1 as the complete version of the game. If you want the lewds and penis scenes (less than one hand) you need ch4 or 4.5, or fiddle with 5 beta and mods. The only saves that will work with season 2 are season 1 though, so yeah S1 is the thing if you want to continue to game.
 
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Don Sucio

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Damn reaction limit, as always in the worst moment.

The biggest possible spoiler was from Ocean, when people asked a question about Sasha’s romantic path. The meaning of the answer was something like that, in principle, it is possible that Nika will travel halfway across the country to see her. Which is clearly could be a spoiler, that at least Sasha is in some point in the story will be very far away.
The most important question is, what if this concerns everyone? What if Nika at some point in the story is forced to leave Wollust?
:eek:
Even could be a moment for create new girls or introduce new characters, who knows.

Honestly after Chapter 5 my biggest fear for this game is Bella getting arrested. Not something id personally want to see as it will be an extremely sad scene for me id think. But I know it's going to happen at some point and to make it worst probably will be the cliffhanger ending of an update.
Bella will be arrested at some point. It's only a matter of time before she gets caught illegaly racing. The lady cop will take her in for questioning, at that point her rich mom will bail her out. Ceril's sis is gonna need a more serious charge or multiple charges to put the menace behind bars.
Despite this Bella will have a happy ending. That is unless Ocean gives us the option to completely screw her up and help Ceril's sis in her mission, in which case we might go down as well if we have been Bella's accomplice. A dark ending considering the overall theme of the game but it could happen.
I was surprised that the Holgersons don't have hidden cameras in their house, Bella and Nika stupidly didn't think about that. Bella (and us) would be fucked if it could be proved she was the one who broke and entered and stole from the Holgersons. She should be more careful in the future and we as Nika will get a chance to influence her path for good or bad. Depending on our choices she might stay stuck in her ways or stop endangering herself for good.
Like mostwanted said i think Bella will end arrested at some point, but not for the heist. I think Mario´s family will try to obtein something from Bella or Amber before try to get her arrested, for some reason Bella´s family is very important for them so i think they will take advantage of the situation if suddenly the police discover Bella implication in the heist

About the idea of sell Bella to Ceril´s sister would be interesting, if Nika is in bad terms with Bella he could end up selling her to the cop, even make a deal with the cops like if he testify againts Bella he won´t be arrested or something.

Ceril isn´t a fuckable Npc right? Because she is crazy as fuck and well, if we are following a path less "happy" could be interesting.
 
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