It's not that everyone has to like Nika's hair. I am simply reacting that way because there has been numerous single-sentence posts here over the years either dismissing the MC based solely on his altered hairstyle or saying how unrealistic it is. It's like, is that the only thing dislikeable about his character or the only unrealistic thing in the game?Yeah, but you don't even have to go as far as the MCU, just take any character from Guy Ritchie and Tarantino movies, as if their characters are the pinnacle of plausibility. But nevertheless, many of them are charismatic, funny and certainly memorable. And I don’t even want to start about typical action heroes, I recently watched the series Jack Reacher, damn it. Bro is so cool that bullets bounce off him. But if we look at this from the plausibility pov, then I have only one question. Why didn't the corrupt cops shoot him in the first episode, as soon as they realized that the guy will become a trouble for them and their boss. There's probably an explanation, I'm just too dense
But since we are stepping on the Holy Ground of personal preferences, nothing can be doneBro simply does not like Nika, so I get all his arguments as a justification for this simple fact. Plus flashbacks of the original MC version. I don't agree but I understand and accept that.
As for me I agree with you about the duality of MC's character, there's definitely a lot to like and a lot to hate about him. At least he's not a Mr. Night Molester, that alone puts him above the hundreds of MCs over here
P.S.: Wait, he was kneading Nami's tiddies while they were sleeping together? So, a Mr. Night Molester actually? I hope this scene was removed in the rework, otherwise I'm in a big trouble with my point.
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It's kinda creepy as fuck, bro, but I like it!
I think I even remember a horror movie where a girl had her eyes transplanted and she started seeing things.
If I recall correctly, the render of that hospital memory is such that it can only be a first-person perspective, i.e. Nika looking forwards with his own eyes while laid out on the gurney.
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It really depends, the old Summer smoked so she wasn't healthy enough to donate organs, I don't know if Ocean changed that.
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the hospital part, it says more or less the following "take him to another room" referring to nika.
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I guess this is something new; she wasn't there before the rework. But she's a new character, so the intrigue intensifies.
Yeah, that too...
[let me grab my tinfoil hat for a moment] can we discount Nika misremembering the hospital visit because of repressed guilt? Perhaps that guilt makes him transplant himself for Summer in that memory. Actually, that's probably taking supposition a bit far. It would be wild if it was true, though.
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There's only one simple fact standing in the way of this tinfoil train. MC constantly says (in his monologue) that this is torture not knowing what happened and that he can't get closure, he even thinks of visiting Emilio to find out what happened to Summer.
Unless I read it wrong.
"(The toxicity of the question: What could've been?)" - he means he doesn't know what happened to her, right?
Unless I read it wrong.
"(The toxicity of the question: What could've been?)" - he means he doesn't know what happened to her, right?
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Since you forgot your words, I can remind you. If I'm wrong, explain why you and other people defending Ocean keep saying the same excuses? It’s strange to see how different people write in defense of Ocean that they are not here for the porn, but they like the characters here. It seems that you were given instructions “how to justify Ocean” and you all copied it and write practically the same thing.
Unlike you, I’m not interested in MC’s penis, I don’t pay attention to it. So that he doesn’t irritate you, stop looking at him so often.
Wow, so much aggression. Are you so angry because I'm stopping the defenders from lying? By the way, you were wrong, these white knights don’t interest me, because they only advertise the game, and they don’t care if it gets worse. The main thing for them is that the game sells.
p.s. Unlike you, I don’t sit here all day and try to convince people if their opinion differs from mine. Well, who after this is trying to get a reaction into their sad and empty life?
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there is no difference between patreon and this latest steam version.
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nope, that patch is/was for cp5 beta, this is reworked steam/patreon version.
and ima out of here
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No mate, it's more like you think you're on Pornhub, even though it's a website dedicated to adult games and there's a wide variety of them with very different approaches to sexual content. You won’t believe it, but even on this site more than six hundred games are marked with the tag "no sexual content"
So think as you want, but don’t expect others to give up their opinions and attitudes just because you want them to.
Steam/Patreon versions are the same. They should put this in the OP so people can know before they ask.
If you want sex, dick, grinding, dick, pussy/asshole spread, dick, ass on dick, dick, fingering/dildoing action, dick, squirting/cumming, dick, blowjobs/handjobs/titjobs/footjobs/teethjobs/toejobs/earjobs/nosejobs/eyejobs, and
Go to a porn site or get an actual lover.
This game is a true masterpiece without the need of sex
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I don't actually care about the lack of sexual content, but I do care about Ocean self-censoring himself for a Steam version and/or music rights. I just want what he originally intended. I hope the decensor patch will eventually work on this version, even if it's just a separate thing to view in the gallery.Steam/Patreon versions are the same. They should put this in the OP so people can know before they ask.
If you want sex, dick, grinding, dick, pussy/asshole spread, dick, ass on dick, dick, fingering/dildoing action, dick, squirting/cumming, dick, blowjobs/handjobs/titjobs/footjobs/teethjobs/toejobs/earjobs/nosejobs/eyejobs, and
Go to a porn site or get an actual lover.
This game is a true masterpiece without the need of sex
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By the way, after replaying SG a few times and trying out different things , I couldn't help but feel that this one particular scene:
is a subtle nod to:
, I couldn't help but feel that this one particular scene:
is a subtle nod to:
If the game will not have sex, this game shouldn’t be in this website, F95 it’s for porn games.
if u want to create some drama sh8 story you are in the wrong place to share it. Don’t bullsh8 me that I need to accept it ..No! ….porn game it’s a porn game,this game should be out of this forum. Accept the facts.
if u want to create some drama sh8 story you are in the wrong place to share it. Don’t bullsh8 me that I need to accept it ..No! ….porn game it’s a porn game,this game should be out of this forum. Accept the facts.
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You keep telling me about Bella's feelings/regrets as if they have some weight in the real world when they actually should not. Like there's some magical bubble around her that protects her. It ricochets all the consequences of her decisions and actions. Other characters like Vanessa, Leia, and someone else are less likeable, so of course this doesn't apply to them. They don't have that magical bubble. Despite the fact that all the characters live in the same world that operates under the same rules.
I'll repeat what I meant earlier. It's cheap, it's artificial. It disrupts the natural order of things in the world of the game. It is perceived as the intervention of beyond force, and I mean the author. The author is always watching. They tell the story and directs it as they see necessary. In good stories, the author's interference is unnoticeable. Unless of course the noticeable interference is justified and done intentionally. But SG is clearly in the wrong genre, it's more for stories from antiquity. What you're talking about isn't good storytelling, but bad writing. I'm telling you this as someone who is actually interested in screenwriting. I have a story that I've been working on for 15 years and writing my own screenplay. You open any book about screenwriting and it will tell you exactly that. A character who commits bad acts but doesn't pay a price for them in the physical world because he has some feelings is terrible writing.
I mentioned Better Call Saul earlier for a reason. Bella/Nika and Jimmy/Kim have a huge amount of parallels. They literally do the same things, often for the same reasons. Jimmy and Kim were likeable and had a lot of feelings and regrets. They did a lot of bad things, sometimes for good reasons, but always faced the consequences. Sometimes the consequences turned in their favour, sometimes they did not. In the end, they paid the price. Was this price justified? Hell no. Not even close. But they live in the real world, just like Bella and Nika. Consequences are not based on morality.
Now, I'm not saying that Bella and Nika should pay the same price that BCS characters paid. But there has to be some price that affects them personally, not Mila. Because if they don't pay a price for their acts, then what does it even matter what they do? Their acts have no real value.
The characters' acts and the consequences they face are what should be the main driving force for the story, not their damn feelings. Their feelings are what provoke their acts. After all, that's particularly important for stories about change, especially those that lead to healing.
If Bella has a bubble that protects her from the consequences of her actions, that bubble must have a physical manifestation. For example, a powerful parent who pulls her out of every mess she gets into. Amber falls under that definition. But do you really think that's what this story really needs? It's a very hypocritical plot turn and completely contradicts Bella's theme of healing.
However, it can work if we apply Mila. Amber pulls Bella out of the situation, but Mila gets hit. Bella doesn't care and this leads to a big conflict with Nika. And I mean real conflict with significant consequences in their relationship. This will be especially useful if Nika is on her path.
I don't see it yet. But if it happens it will be good.
You keep telling me about Bella's feelings/regrets as if they have some weight in the real world when they actually should not. Like there's some magical bubble around her that protects her. It ricochets all the consequences of her decisions and actions. Other characters like Vanessa, Leia, and someone else are less likeable, so of course this doesn't apply to them. They don't have that magical bubble. Despite the fact that all the characters live in the same world that operates under the same rules.
I'll repeat what I meant earlier. It's cheap, it's artificial. It disrupts the natural order of things in the world of the game. It is perceived as the intervention of beyond force, and I mean the author. The author is always watching. They tell the story and directs it as they see necessary. In good stories, the author's interference is unnoticeable. Unless of course the noticeable interference is justified and done intentionally. But SG is clearly in the wrong genre, it's more for stories from antiquity. What you're talking about isn't good storytelling, but bad writing. I'm telling you this as someone who is actually interested in screenwriting. I have a story that I've been working on for 15 years and writing my own screenplay. You open any book about screenwriting and it will tell you exactly that. A character who commits bad acts but doesn't pay a price for them in the physical world because he has some feelings is terrible writing.
I mentioned Better Call Saul earlier for a reason. Bella/Nika and Jimmy/Kim have a huge amount of parallels. They literally do the same things, often for the same reasons. Jimmy and Kim were likeable and had a lot of feelings and regrets. They did a lot of bad things, sometimes for good reasons, but always faced the consequences. Sometimes the consequences turned in their favour, sometimes they did not. In the end, they paid the price. Was this price justified? Hell no. Not even close. But they live in the real world, just like Bella and Nika. Consequences are not based on morality.
Now, I'm not saying that Bella and Nika should pay the same price that BCS characters paid. But there has to be some price that affects them personally, not Mila. Because if they don't pay a price for their acts, then what does it even matter what they do? Their acts have no real value.
The characters' acts and the consequences they face are what should be the main driving force for the story, not their damn feelings. Their feelings are what provoke their acts. After all, that's particularly important for stories about change, especially those that lead to healing.
If Bella has a bubble that protects her from the consequences of her actions, that bubble must have a physical manifestation. For example, a powerful parent who pulls her out of every mess she gets into. Amber falls under that definition. But do you really think that's what this story really needs? It's a very hypocritical plot turn and completely contradicts Bella's theme of healing.
However, it can work if we apply Mila. Amber pulls Bella out of the situation, but Mila gets hit. Bella doesn't care and this leads to a big conflict with Nika. And I mean real conflict with significant consequences in their relationship. This will be especially useful if Nika is on her path.
I don't see it yet. But if it happens it will be good.
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