BobTheDuck
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Yeah, it's definitely a first person memory Nika has of being on a gurney.
It's actually third person perspective. Every scene is external from Nika, there is nothing first persective the entire game. Look at the angles - the hand is closest, down at the bottom the the screen and the shouder recedes into the background. If it was first person, Nika would be looking at someone else's arm, to look at his own the hand would be receding. Everything is from the cinematic, external view. The reason we think it is Nika's is because we hear his internal dialogue the most. There is the scene with Sasha and Robin calling either Marla or Bella that is completely divorced from Nika, but it's the same third person view.If I recall correctly, the render of that hospital memory is such that it can only be a first-person perspective, i.e. Nika looking forwards with his own eyes while laid out on the gurney.
So it could be a guy Nika saw, and both of them beat each other senseless. I prefer the simpler more common view it's Nika though, as we don't need to add a mysterious extra nameless wounded guy to the narrative for any reason ...Ocean can complicate it easily enough without me wanting extra characters
After goth bus/pizza girl, she's my favourite unknown. Actually more interested in finding out about those two than some characters like Nadia or Sonja. But really Ocean will make anyone look hot the minute he focuses on them.I guess this is something new; she wasn't there before the rework. But she's a new character, so the intrigue intensifies.
*...Always have been!*
As has been stated many times, there is a tag in the games section for 'no sexual content'. there's a list 22 pages long with games with this tag, around 650. Why would the forum mods need this tag if it is a porn forum? And this doesn't count the games that have content such as partial nudity, so there's even more games that arent doing 18+ content. You might find games that only have handholding here even.If the game will not have sex, this game shouldn’t be in this website, F95 it’s for porn games.
if u want to create some drama sh8 story you are in the wrong place to share it. Don’t bullsh8 me that I need to accept it ..No! ….porn game it’s a porn game,this game should be out of this forum. Accept the facts.
The no sexual content tags
Great post. Here's an idea for a script though: a character never suffers any repercussions, but it always falls on the people they care about instead. It's only bad writing if the writer is oblivious to the pitfalls. I mean, Star Wars, being one of Ocean's favourites, you have the upstart rebels chopping people up vigilante style. What matters is not whether there is an equal and opposite reaction for every action, but whether the story creates sufficient reason why the axe never falls. Even the threat of consequences can be enough if done well. Given that Ocean acknowledges there are consequences for actions with the whole locker room scenario, the reasons Nika and Bella might avoid consequences are: other people have bigger goals and use the situation to manipulate them, it sets of a chain of events and the tally is only over at the end, there are people on Nika's side who have a criminal empire who disappear the problems. Ultimately it's a question of power - justice isn't always the most powerful force in a society, and we don't yet know all the politics that have happened or even the current politics of Wollust.mostwanted8
You keep telling me about Bella's feelings/regrets as if they have some weight in the real world when they actually should not. Like there's some magical bubble around her that protects her. It ricochets all the consequences of her decisions and actions. Other characters like Vanessa, Leia, and someone else are less likeable, so of course this doesn't apply to them. They don't have that magical bubble. Despite the fact that all the characters live in the same world that operates under the same rules.
I'll repeat what I meant earlier. It's cheap, it's artificial. It disrupts the natural order of things in the world of the game. It is perceived as the intervention of beyond force, and I mean the author. The author is always watching. They tell the story and directs it as they see necessary. In good stories, the author's interference is unnoticeable. Unless of course the noticeable interference is justified and done intentionally. But SG is clearly in the wrong genre, it's more for stories from antiquity. What you're talking about isn't good storytelling, but bad writing. I'm telling you this as someone who is actually interested in screenwriting. I have a story that I've been working on for 15 years and writing my own screenplay. You open any book about screenwriting and it will tell you exactly that. A character who commits bad acts but doesn't pay a price for them in the physical world because he has some feelings is terrible writing.
I mentioned Better Call Saul earlier for a reason. Bella/Nika and Jimmy/Kim have a huge amount of parallels. They literally do the same things, often for the same reasons. Jimmy and Kim were likeable and had a lot of feelings and regrets. They did a lot of bad things, sometimes for good reasons, but always faced the consequences. Sometimes the consequences turned in their favour, sometimes they did not. In the end, they paid the price. Was this price justified? Hell no. Not even close. But they live in the real world, just like Bella and Nika. Consequences are not based on morality.
Now, I'm not saying that Bella and Nika should pay the same price that BCS characters paid. But there has to be some price that affects them personally, not Mila. Because if they don't pay a price for their acts, then what does it even matter what they do? Their acts have no real value.
The characters' acts and the consequences they face are what should be the main driving force for the story, not their damn feelings. Their feelings are what provoke their acts. After all, that's particularly important for stories about change, especially those that lead to healing.
If Bella has a bubble that protects her from the consequences of her actions, that bubble must have a physical manifestation. For example, a powerful parent who pulls her out of every mess she gets into. Amber falls under that definition. But do you really think that's what this story really needs? It's a very hypocritical plot turn and completely contradicts Bella's theme of healing.
However, it can work if we apply Mila. Amber pulls Bella out of the situation, but Mila gets hit. Bella doesn't care and this leads to a big conflict with Nika. And I mean real conflict with significant consequences in their relationship. This will be especially useful if Nika is on her path.
I don't see it yet. But if it happens it will be good.
But even if the get to skip jail, monopoly style, whoever helped them has control.
I do agree that these concepts of morality suit WiaB for more, but even sufficient indirect consequences can be enough to cover the crime without trivialising it. It'd certain be rich if Bella and Nika's scheming is dealt with more trivially than the locker room - everyone seems polarised by that and Robin being so evil, while giving Bella and Nika's criminality a free pass.
I can't help but wonder if they chaffed the whole day, like Vanessa was saying. It's almost solid iron, lucky her booty looks like treasure!View attachment 3646719
Oh yeah! OOOH Yeaah! I'm going to give you your usual routine...
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