VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[yossa999]

i suggest Ocean should rework the game since the beginning... would you guys like that ?

1. There's no point in asking the guys, they don't decide anything. If Ocean decides to remake the game from the start, he'll remake it, whether the guys like it or not. (But if you're interested in knowing other people personal preferences, I'd like him to redesign some of the characters from the start. You're welcome.)
2. Ocean has reworked what he wanted to reworked, published the result on Steam and made a tidy sum. I see no reason for him to rework something he has already paid for.
3. Anyway, if you want to suggest something to him, you can join his Discord, there is a public channel there called "Suggestions", Ocean reads it and answers there. You're welcome again.

 

[NebulousShooter]

1. There's no point in asking the guys, they don't decide anything. If Ocean decides to remake the game from the start, he'll remake it, whether the guys like it or not. (But if you're interested in knowing other people personal preferences, I'd like him to redesign some of the characters from the start. You're welcome.)
2. Ocean has reworked what he wanted to reworked, published the result on Steam and made a tidy sum. I see no reason for him to rework something he has already paid for.
3. Anyway, if you want to suggest something to him, you can join his Discord, there is a public channel there called "Suggestions", Ocean reads it and answers there. You're welcome again.

I suggest to him that after he says he has started working on the new season, while waiting for the steam approval , he actually takes less time than a year for a new episode. Pass it along!

 

[Ottoeight]

I don't see why it would be impossible. We know nothing about it, for all we know Ayua could be adopt, there is not a dialogue in the game that confirms her parents, only one that denies Katie as her mother because she refers to her as aunt. I agree that the more likely scenario is W + M = A but you have to grant that the game does not confirmes it.

You forgot Ayua's family dojo legacy, which clearly comes from her mother's family.

To be honest I really do think the simple thing is true, Ayua is William and Miru's. But is Ocean brings infuta Helen, all bets are off. Ayua might not be the trans character, but the futa one, and that's why she's a special case.

Okay, that would be an outstandingly DUMB bit of script writing, but I posted the precedent, we can't pretend Ocean hasn't thought through these options!



Well, I'm thinking Ayua is Miru and William's child. But then you have the monogamists saying they won't touch Miru with a barge pole - they're team Katie (or someone else less interesting) all the way, so either way Ocean's getting screwed trying to make people happy. Maybe Ayua is the result of Ocean getting screwed by the LI fandoms? That also makes as much sense.

Also, we have to wait until WiaB or SG gets an update to find out who exactly is still a Zane and what that all means. Or Ocean's changed his mind again.

I don't think that we will find out in 0.6 who Ayua's mom and dad are.

 

[LHDLLB]

You forgot Ayua's family dojo legacy, which clearly comes from her mother's family.




I don't think that we will find out in 0.6 who Ayua's mom and dad are.

Again, is not a explicity confirmation, though it is a heavy implication.

 

[yossa999]

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I suggest to him that after he says he has started working on the new season, while waiting for the steam approval , he actually takes less time than a year for a new episode. Pass it along!

Nah, I'm good.

 

[BobTheDuck]

You forgot Ayua's family dojo legacy, which clearly comes from her mother's family.




I don't think that we will find out in 0.6 who Ayua's mom and dad are.

Agreed that it's uncertain, but we might find out if Adrianna is Ayua's half/sister. We've seen previews that suggest that. There might be a cameo of Miru or William at the fighting studio on Sunday. I highly doubt Ocean will tease any of that kind of content. We'll also maybe know if all the people we thought were Zane's are still Zane's. Maybe I should redownload S1 off steam and see if there's any stealth script edits.

BUt there will be a lot of things less fuzzy than they are now, especially with more Katie scenes in SG.

 

[Adhdclassic]

To be honest I really do think the simple thing is true, Ayua is William and Miru's. But if Ocean brings in futa Helen, all bets are off. Ayua might not be a trans character, but a futa one, and that's why she's a special case.

Okay, that would be an outstandingly DUMB bit of script writing, but I posted the precedent, so we can't pretend Ocean hasn't thought through these options!



Well, I'm thinking Ayua is Miru and William's child. But then you have the monogamists saying they won't touch Miru with a barge pole - they're team Katie (or someone else less interesting) all the way, so either way Ocean's getting screwed trying to make people happy. Maybe Ayua is the result of Ocean getting screwed by the LI fandoms? That also makes as much sense.

Also, we have to wait until WiaB or SG gets an update to find out who exactly is still a Zane and what that all means. Or Ocean's changed his mind again.

Oh shit I forgot Ocean did a futa Helen .

 

[incog44]

I've solved the mystery. Nami is Summer and MC has brain damage from an accident their parents were in. She's just waiting for him to remember. You're welcome. Just saved you 10 years of waiting.

 

[Ottoeight]

Agreed that it's uncertain, but we might find out if Adrianna is Ayua's half/sister. We've seen previews that suggest that. There might be a cameo of Miru or William at the fighting studio on Sunday. I highly doubt Ocean will tease any of that kind of content. We'll also maybe know if all the people we thought were Zane's are still Zane's. Maybe I should redownload S1 off steam and see if there's any stealth script edits.

BUt there will be a lot of things less fuzzy than they are now, especially with more Katie scenes in SG.

I don't remember a character named Adrianna in SG, unless she's the annoying skinny girl who always quarrels with Nika without any reason: she's so pointless - in my opinion - that I forgot her name.

 

[Eponymous_01]

...But then you have the monogamists saying they won't touch Miru with a barge pole - they're team Katie (or someone else less interesting) all the way, so either way Ocean's getting screwed trying to make people happy...

That's the downside of developing a sequel at the same time as an original game with branching choices - sooner or later he will have to commit to a canon path that a sizable amount of his audience will dislike. It's simply not possible to include all branching paths from WIAB in SG.

But as you say, what will that canon be? Harem, NTR, and monogamy fans will all want different, mutually exclusive conclusions with LI's to be canon in SG. Seems like the sooner Ocean commits to one and lets supporters either accept that decision or move on, the better the chance of SG having a cohesive continuity with WIAB.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't remember a character named Adrianna in SG, unless she's the annoying skinny girl who always quarrels with Nika without any reason: she's so pointless - in my opinion - that I forgot her name.

Adrianna in Ch5


Adrianna in a preview from S2, unless someone has identical tatts

That's the downside of developing a sequel at the same time as an original game with branching choices - sooner or later he will have to commit to a canon path that a sizable amount of his audience will dislike. It's simply not possible to include all branching paths from WIAB in SG.

But as you say, what will that canon be? Harem, NTR, and monogamy fans will all want different, mutually exclusive conclusions with LI's to be canon in SG. Seems like the sooner Ocean commits to one and lets supporters either accept that decision or move on, the better the chance of SG having a cohesive continuity with WIAB.

Outta reacts today, but yes, I agree. The sooner Ocean gives some sense of clarity to a handful of these issues, the sooner people will come to terms with whatever the canon decisions are. By the same token, I'm glad he's making it awkward for himself and not spoiling the content by saying "oh btw, Miru xyzsgdjbjsg ijgskjhghjs ...and that's how Ayua exists". But I do feel there will be some level of disclosure in the next updates of the two games, they're both to large to avoid slipping in some juicy details about those connections.

 

[Ilhares]

Regarding LIs getting pregnant by other men. I will not pretended understand NTR, for what I see, it is part of some people fetish having their spouses impregnated by other man

Sometimes it has nothing to do with a fetish, they're just cheating whores (on both sides).

 

[RNasc4444]

1. There's no point in asking the guys, they don't decide anything. If Ocean decides to remake the game from the start, he'll remake it, whether the guys like it or not. (But if you're interested in knowing other people personal preferences, I'd like him to redesign some of the characters from the start. You're welcome.)

Jesus Christ in Heaven! That's even more insane than my suggestion that S1 NEEDS an entire script overhaul!

Players have already gotten used to how the characters look after the rework. I think going for a redesign at this point would be...extreme. But out of curiosity, which characters would you like to see redesigned?

I love this game, but how hasn't anyone helped this guy by fixing comical spelling and grammar mistakes? I understand English isn't his first language, and he writes better than I could in any other language, but it feels like he doesn't care. This game has been in development for over five years and is on Steam. Does he not want anyone to touch up his writing? I might take this on and release a version with his vision, minus the engrish.

Preach! But trust me, it used to be so much worse. Even though it may not look like it, this aspect has improved massively.

I still agree with you and have pointed this out multiple times. Even suggested a complete script overhaul to solve not only the language issues but continuity issues, logic issues and so much more. The problem is not so much orthographic mistakes anymore but sentence structuring, idioms, slang usage and formal/informal English.

Even though most users don't seem to care about this problem, either because their own knowledge/understanding of the language is limited or because they are used to poor narratives and dialogue and just want to get to the fucking, it still bothers me tremendously. It's noticeable! And English isn't even my first or second language...

I tried to do this script fine-tuning myself twice and realised it's more time consuming than I can afford. Last time I tried just the "book club" scene and gave up halfway when I realised I was editing over 50% of Ocean's dialogue. Even if I admit to being nitpicky, it's still too much.

But hey if anyone can do it, I wish them best of luck! Shoutout to alain8891's uncut mod! Without it, SG S1 would be borderline unplayable to me!

 

[yossa999]

Jesus Christ in Heaven! That's even more insane than my suggestion that S1 NEEDS an entire script overhaul!

Players have already gotten used to how the characters look after the rework. I think going for a redesign at this point would be...extreme. But out of curiosity, which characters would you like to see redesigned?

Those, who don't have enough boobs meet the standards. You know, Nami, Ayua... Maja probably. These characters mainly.

 

[Cabin Fever]

So released in 2019 and still in season 1? Did I miss something, was this game complete? How on Gods green earth can this game still not be complete? Adult VN trying to give Star Citizen and good name? Geniuess World Records for longest developed adult VN? Am I the only one that noticed this?

Sarcasm aside, the single most popular thread (and objectively wrongly argued by some to be the best game) around here belongs to a game that started in 2019 and is nowhere near complete. Just saying.

 

[RNasc4444]

Those, who don't have enough boobs meet the standards. You know, Nami, Ayua... Maja probably. These characters mainly.

Ewww. That's nasty!

But in that case, you don't need any redesign. You literally just need to wait. Way things are going, by mid season 3 all female characters will look like Hutts

Not gonna lie, I'm curious to see how some characters will look like as fat blobs. Imagine the entire cast by season 4 or 5

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Those, who don't have enough boobs meet the standards. You know, Nami, Ayua.

 

[yossa999]

Ewww. That's nasty!

But in that case, you don't need any redesign. You literally just need to wait. Way things are going, by mid season 3 all female characters will look like Hutts

Not gonna lie, I'm curious to see how some characters will look like as fat blobs. Imagine the entire cast by season 4 or 5

No, no, this Jabba roleplay is your own dirty ki... Sorry, kink-shaming is forbidden, I mean, this is your special thing.
I'm talking about beauty and magic!

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Leave Cheeto alone you maniac !

 

[yossa999]

Leave Cheeto alone you maniac !
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... That look of despair when her dream boobs disappeared...