VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Maviarab]

I don't get it that sleeping with Nika is out of Maja's character thing.

There was obviously quite a lot you didn't get.

I'll let BobTheDuck explain...I can't be assed.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't get it that sleeping with Nika is out of Maja's character thing. So far all the facts clearly suggest that she is a total nymphomaniac. From being one of the founders of the free titty movement in college to having 3 boxes of stockings, 4 of corsets, 5 of latex, 7 of sex toys and 8 of BDSM accessories. Right now it's safe for Vik because she doesn't find Nika sexually attractive to her but when that changes it's going to be a tough fight with her crazy sexual urges

100 % Nympho always stays 100 % Nympho

Actually, Maja is all about control. What is her fetish? Shibari. Chances are she likes doing they tying seeing she's always in braids. But think about her box of sin; after all, Maja's got a lot of toys. She KNOWS how to satisfy herself without a dead pocket rocket. She's also creeped out by NIka having used any of it. So she's not a dirty nympho at all. She is (at least so far) depicted as someone who has specific tastes and knows what she wants.

All her interactions with Nika suggest that she's mostly tolerating him for Vic's sake. Keep in mind, Nika has an incredibly dub moment when he starts talking with her the first time, acting like a trenchcoat dude. She's suspicious of him being a creep. But the very next thing for her is Vic being obsessed with this guy, and Maja being responsible to look after Vic. Vic wants Maja to find him, because Vic keeps telling Maja about him. Vic wants all kinds of romantic moments that she fantasizes about that she tells Maja. Maja knows it will break her sisters heart if Maja takes him from her. She's the one in charge of keeping Vic stable/happy/looked after also. So even if she finds Nika attractive, she has to overcome her loyalty to her injured sister.

I can safely say her impression of NIka isn't anywhere near the level that it would overcome her loyalty to Vic.

So, if Ocean plans lewds, it will be a moment of weakness most likely. Instead of her attraction being so high, her will is lowered, by circumstance or alcohol - remember she left Vic with a bottle to loosen the stick up Nika's ass. Or because she's stressed out trying to pay the way of all the medical bills for Vic, and just has a moment of weakness. That is the only way I can see it happening, and then, most likely only if you reject Vic's date - Maja is HELPING Vic plan her date.

Horniness isn't the only force of gravity in the world. There are other bonds.

At least, that's what's been characterised so far. Whether or not OCean thinks about it this deeply is another matter - after all, every one of Ocean's girls seem to be going to the same body piercer lately, so it's still Ocean logic we'll find out about.

For me, the possibility that there is some Maja content might be part of the manwhore path, where you end up missing out on LI's by playing the field.

 

[AlexFXR]

Great side characters can make a world, story or game shine brighter. Same with background characters. They can really add to the depth, complexity and authenticity of a story.

You're right. But to make it work, the writers create a boundary and make sure that the secondary characters don't overshadow the main ones. And when the secondary characters are more interesting than the main ones, it's a mess.

 

[dameromexxx]

Horniness isn't the only force of gravity in the world. There are other bonds.

At least, that's what's been characterised so far. Whether or not OCean thinks about it this deeply is another matter - after all, every one of Ocean's girls seem to be going to the same body piercer lately, so it's still Ocean logic we'll find out about.

For me, the possibility that there is some Maja content might be part of the manwhore path, where you end up missing out on LI's by playing the field.

Ha Ha That's very impressive Bob like always but you really didn't notice that when I was writing these ridiculous descriptions of the contents of her boxes I was mainly making jokes.

This whole wait for the second season is really dragging on for me and I really can't take this thread seriously anymore
otherwise I would go crazy

Most if not everything that was worth noting has already been said, small details have been found and the only thing left is coping in longing for new material for in-depth analysis.

But chin up, a few more months to go until the release then a few weeks of celibacy until ''Where are the Sex Scenes crowd disappears'' and this thread will once again become a really cool hobby

 

[BobTheDuck]

Ha Ha That's very impressive Bob like always but you really didn't notice that when I was writing these ridiculous descriptions of the contents of her boxes I was mainly making jokes.

This whole wait for the second season is really dragging on for me and I really can't take this thread seriously anymore
otherwise I would go crazy

Most if not everything that was worth noting has already been said, small details have been found and the only thing left is coping in longing for new material for in-depth analysis.

But chin up, a few more months to go until the release then a few weeks of celibacy until ''Where are the Sex Scenes crowd disappears'' and this thread will once again become a really cool hobby

Ah it's all good, I just decided to take Mavi's assignment seriously - I am also filling in time waiting, as you rightly guessed

 

[Miranha157]

I am sure it would. But if she liked him there would be a conflict, if she is just fucking him ...she is hurting her sister over what ? Nika's magic dick ?

That is my point. A one time thing could work from a story point of view but it would accomplish nothing beyond a fan service that would hurt the character. Maybe Ocean has cooking somethimg really good, I will not judge until I see it, but I do find a rather strange choice.

Enigmatically Maja appears pregnant and says she doesn't know who the father is, only she and Nika know of course

 

[Miranha157]

I have no clue how you're supposed to get a lewd-able scene out of Maja with the way the story is currently presented outside of a non-canon special scene and I absolutely do not want to give Ocean ideas that will distract him from actively working on the story itself.

If it's a one off in the story it feels cheap, hurts Vic whether or not your romance her, and seems out of character for Maja. If Vic is okay with it...there's no way she's ready for something like that yet. If you wait too long to do the scene, it's gonna feel out of place. Reject Vic and have Maja take her place? Maja isn't a LI so that wouldn't make sense either. I just don't know how you'd write one in and make it coherent.

I somewhat agree with Alex. Maja is too attractive to not be a LI. Granted, I don't think all characters should exist for the sake of the MC but it's the same problem Julia had in BARS, she was attractive but off limits being a relative in a non incest game. There would have been almost no pushback if Julia was unattractive or in an existing relationship. Maybe Maja just needs another guy in her life. (I'm gonna get quartered for that).

Let's go to the American cliché, Maja starts to develop feelings for Nika when she sees how he takes care of her poor crippled little sister and with the look of an abandoned puppy, his love and affection overflows to the point of reaching Maja's cold heart and warming it up and damn. Maja and Nika are clapping while the hot redhead does the therapy thing on Vic.

Julia had in BARS

Who is Julia?

 

[Miranha157]

or any kind of ugly girl, show me one from the game coz I can't remember any. And it's def not realistic (it's a game, but whatever)

I found a LI

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[Dark Quean Olivia]

Enigmatically Maja appears pregnant and says she doesn't know who the father is, only she and Nika know of course

Let's go to the American cliché, Maja starts to develop feelings for Nika when she sees how he takes care of her poor crippled little sister and with the look of an abandoned puppy, his love and affection overflows to the point of reaching Maja's cold heart and warming it up and damn. Maja and Nika are clapping while the hot redhead does the therapy thing on Vic.

Who is Julia?

I found a LI

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Multi-quote, it's a beautiful thing

 

[Miranha157]

Multi-quote, it's a beautiful thing

After I discovered it was possible, I felt like I was on cloud nine

PS: I'm still learning how things work in this vast ocean.

 

[LHDLLB]

It could be that he's intentionally making all of these background girls pretty because he wants to have them in reserve for use in the man-whore path.

The memorable locker room scene shows how hard it's going to be to introduce the recently revealed LIs into this path. It's going to be damn hard to do anything behind their backs without them knowing

not to mention that in the case of a few of them he may have put them in the background to foreshadow their upcoming bigger roles in the story

So let's take a closer look at one of these seemingly featureless background heroines.

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We first see her when they first appeared in college. She doesn't seem to stand out at all.

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This first shot of her from the back shows that Ocean took great effort to design a detailed tattoo for her.
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Here the first interesting things begin. We see that the same person in the front thanks to the presence of the girls in the red and white blouses from the previous slide.
So we learn that this mysterious girl knows both Ayua and Sasha and her clique, people important to the main plot

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We see her again twice during the next few days at college
in the slide on the left we see how detailed and laborious her tattoo design is. In the slide on the right we see her holding a guitar in her hand suggesting that she is a musician and in combination with her clothing indicating that she plays in a rock band.

So she has more of a characterization and trait that you don't usually give to a background character. Not to mention Nika musical preferences which Bob also wrote once. Ocean confirmed that they match hers

So you can't rule out that the main plot will go in a direction where you'll start dealing with her band and therefore automatically with her? How many potential scenarios of this type could be lurking hidden in the background by him.

He's already done it with Zara, she passes you by in the hallway as if nothing had happened, you have no idea that you'll play for a few more hours and you'll be living with her under the same roof

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It's no wonder that all those girls hidden in the background are beauties, you never know what might really surprise you

While I understand you point, and even agree with it, the fact that they have this characterization and are not part of the story is what gives the world depth. Or more the fact that you can't be sure as to they will be a character in the story or not. As you mentioned Zara was introduced in the same manner, some other characters also can be spoted on the background long before they appear in the story, some has attention brought to them like the Goth Girl and the Tatto Girl at the library or the Mysterious Redhead.

Is the fact that even if this featureless background heroine does not comes up at all in the now 64 (?) SG chapters she was a characters with traits and a recognizable face that makes the world more alive.

 

[dameromexxx]

I am not fan of Cindy. Is not, but if we are gonna have a unrealistic game better be for too many beautiful characters than for too little. And all the good looking girls fallen in love with the MC. Also beauty is subjective.

It could be that he's intentionally making all of these background girls pretty because he wants to have them in reserve for use in the man-whore path.

The memorable locker room scene shows how hard it's going to be to introduce the recently revealed LIs into this path. It's going to be damn hard to do anything behind their backs without them knowing

not to mention that in the case of a few of them he may have put them in the background to foreshadow their upcoming bigger roles in the story

So let's take a closer look at one of these seemingly featureless background heroines.

We first see her when they first appeared in college. She doesn't seem to stand out at all.

This first shot of her from the back shows that Ocean took great effort to design a detailed tattoo for her.

Here the first interesting things begin. We see that the same person in the front thanks to the presence of the girls in the red and white blouses from the previous slide.
So we learn that this mysterious girl knows both Ayua and Sasha and her clique, people important to the main plot

We see her again twice during the next few days at college
in the slide on the left we see how detailed and laborious her tattoo design is. In the slide on the right we see her holding a guitar in her hand suggesting that she is a musician and in combination with her clothing indicating that she plays in a rock band.

So she has more of a characterization and trait that you don't usually give to a background character. Not to mention Nika musical preferences which Bob also wrote once. Ocean confirmed that they match hers

So you can't rule out that the main plot will go in a direction where you'll start dealing with her band and therefore automatically with her? How many potential scenarios of this type could be lurking hidden in the background by him.

He's already done it with Zara, she passes you by in the hallway as if nothing had happened, you have no idea that you'll play for a few more hours and you'll be living with her under the same roof

It's no wonder that all those girls hidden in the background are beauties, you never know what might really surprise you

 

[Night Hacker]

If I ever publish my VN, I think I will purposely throw random characters in the backgrounds and make them look important somehow just to mess with people.

 

[LHDLLB]

It could be that he's intentionally making all of these background girls pretty because he wants to have them in reserve for use in the man-whore path.

The memorable locker room scene shows how hard it's going to be to introduce the recently revealed LIs into this path. It's going to be damn hard to do anything behind their backs without them knowing

not to mention that in the case of a few of them he may have put them in the background to foreshadow their upcoming bigger roles in the story

So let's take a closer look at one of these seemingly featureless background heroines.
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We first see her when they first appeared in college. She doesn't seem to stand out at all.
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This first shot of her from the back shows that Ocean took great effort to design a detailed tattoo for her.
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Here the first interesting things begin. We see that the same person in the front thanks to the presence of the girls in the red and white blouses from the previous slide.
So we learn that this mysterious girl knows both Ayua and Sasha and her clique, people important to the main plot
View attachment 4419663 View attachment 4419667
We see her again twice during the next few days at college
in the slide on the left we see how detailed and laborious her tattoo design is. In the slide on the right we see her holding a guitar in her hand suggesting that she is a musician and in combination with her clothing indicating that she plays in a rock band.

So she has more of a characterization and trait that you don't usually give to a background character. Not to mention Nika musical preferences which Bob also wrote once. Ocean confirmed that they match hers

So you can't rule out that the main plot will go in a direction where you'll start dealing with her band and therefore automatically with her? How many potential scenarios of this type could be lurking hidden in the background by him.

He's already done it with Zara, she passes you by in the hallway as if nothing had happened, you have no idea that you'll play for a few more hours and you'll be living with her under the same roof
View attachment 4419669
It's no wonder that all those girls hidden in the background are beauties, you never know what might really surprise you

Man I had written a good response to your point but my shitty internet fucked with me, so here it is the short version.

I agree with you but what makes the world feel alive and deep is the fact that we can't be sure if said character will have a role to play in the story or not.

 

[dameromexxx]

Man I had written a good response to your point but my shitty internet fucked with me, so here it is the short version.

I agree with you but what makes the world feel alive and deep is the fact that we can't be sure if said character will have a role to play in the story or not.

Thanks And it's not your internet, but when I was fixing the screen sizes in the editor and accidentally deleted my post, I put it back in a few minutes later

 

[LHDLLB]

Thanks And it's not your internet, but when I was fixing the screen sizes in the editor and accidentally deleted my post, I put it back in a few minutes later

It is both then, my internet is really shitty today. Is not downloading templates for Word.

 

[Miranha157]

It's no wonder that all those girls hidden in the background are beauties, you never know what might really surprise you

Considering that Ocean is very detailed, I wouldn't waste any time thinking about whether she's going to be the new Zara or just an extra. But since I like theories, it must be another one of William's bastards.

 

[alanrock]

If I ever publish my VN, I think I will purposely throw random characters in the backgrounds and make them look important somehow just to mess with people.

And let them hold hands, so people could yap about NTR.

 

[LHDLLB]

Considering that Ocean is very detailed, I wouldn't waste any time thinking about whether she's going to be the new Zara or just an extra. But since I like theories, it must be another one of William's bastards.

The Canon path is the NTR. Every LI was fucked into oblivium and William just pays to raises the children of true bulls.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Man I had written a good response to your point but my shitty internet fucked with me, so here it is the short version.

I agree with you but what makes the world feel alive and deep is the fact that we can't be sure if said character will have a role to play in the story or not.

I just haad a thought - Ocean might be planting these characters and having them recognisable, talking with NIka's friends in the background, because they're the ones that carry the gossip.

Think about mysterious stalker Cheeto she's at the shop when Bella's buying Nika clothes. Pizza goth girl is known to talk with Zara, and Nami's shouting about how Nika needs to stop fucking girls in the restrooms, maybe Zara hears this rumour, and doesn't know the full details (she wasn't in on the girl talk from memory). So for some of them, their 'job' might just be to show the walls have ears. And this might play a big role in how jealousy/cheating is uncovered and made plausible.