Basically, Vanessa is Leia reincarnated.
I'm always amazed when I see this scene again, Katie's glow up is just insane.
Nah, we still don't know what she did to Willi before he left. She's shitty, but also glorious.
William mentioned to Miru that Katie can be really manipulative, even more so than Leia. She hides her game well behind her “neglected sister” facade.
No clue how WIAB is going to unfold, but manipulation is not really central in SG.Basically, Vanessa is Leia reincarnated.
Besides, I get the impression that Ocean's games revolve a lot around the manipulation of others, whether in Where it all Began with William, Leia or Katy, or Summer's Gone with Nika, Bella and Vanessa.
I hear what you're saying and we all know that Nika is very intelligent, the problem is that we also know that he's very stubborn and rarely goes back on his decision. Ayua has warned him, of course, but will he listen to her ?
Well, frankly, from the start it's clear that he's far from stupid. Compare the beginning of the game and the last chapter, and there's quite a gap.Very intelligent? Pray tell me, where did you get that idea?
that's what I'm saying the dude is hung up on his childhood girlfriend and I repeat childhood girlfriend and totally ignores all the sexy ass college women that want to ride his dick and you say he is intelligent ? by who's standards if Nika had a lick of sense he would give up this childish romance he had when he was a kid and focus on the here and now and get some college ass. bear in mind Bella wanted to give it up plenty of times and he just said nahh i'm good. that screams intellgent right ? he might be smart as far as book sense but he is fucking stupid as far as life style.Very intelligent? Pray tell me, where did you get that idea?
The only stupid thing would be to fall in love with Nami, now that's not very clever.
If the cheating asshole lusting on his whole family said so...
He's far from stupid, yes. But very intelligent? Nah. I think he has that misplaced overconfidence that he's some kind of mastermind playing 4d chess with people, but he's far from being as smart as he thinks he is.Well, frankly, from the start it's clear that he's far from stupid. Compare the beginning of the game and the last chapter, and there's quite a gap.
The only stupid thing would be to fall in love with Nami, now that's not very clever.
No clue what you are talking about. Within a week of ingame time, he already has choices with multiples girls he can hook up with. He's not really obsessed with Summer, but more what happen with her.
The whole point of Nika is he can't let go of summer and what happened to her that it effects his sex life and he has had chance after chance to get laid but this shit with summer has stopped his sex drive and dick from working. Bella was in her underwear in his bed, Nami was in her underwear in her bed with him, 3 beautiful women was naked in a hot tub and he didn't get hard and i can go on. the dude is fucked up in the head , I say he sould just give Jeff the go ahead and bang the women that want him instead since he doesn't give a shit he might as well since he isn't interested. or is he the kind of dude well I don't want them but I don't want anyone else to have them either.
Some people here are less focused on who Nika hasn't banged yet and more on the (hopeful) continuation of the narrative. I'm keen to know more about:
that's a lot of story to cover and if we get 1 chapter every year or year and half or 2 years then those of us that are in our 20's will be in our 30's and those of us that are in our 30's will be in our 40's and those of us that are in our 40's will be in our 50's and so on when we see everything you mentioned in total ,If things progress as they are now in Development as of today but I also would like to see all that but I might not live to see all that just being a realist, thats why i want to rush Development I aint going to live forever.
We'll see what happens once Ocean pulls back from ridiculously large updates. Trying to do too much without feedback is exhausting. Smaller updates will mean he can feed off the excitement of people actually playing and beeing eager for more. Right now I imagine it's hard for him to feel excited, he's probably nervous of how both updates will be recieved. But once he's over these two big updates, I hope he'll pull back from the epic updates, except in the case of season finales. We'll see. I might be in my late 40s, but I'd rather a great story than a rushed one. A rushed one that I feel let down by? I'd rather wait. I have enough on my plate day to day that I can keep myself occupied.
Did you read DPK's latest Q&A? Most great devs are not about "feedback" or change their writing based on comments from supporters. They are executing their visions. I don't mean all AVN creators. Lets admit most of them are hacks and panderers that are creating basic crap, for fun or for money. The real artists, though, like Ocean, are trying to bring something into reality from something living in their head. Great musicians are like this, too. Yes, positive feedback can be used for motivation, but let's face it: nobody's getting positive motivation from reading these boards. Too many bitchy whiners bring me down, never mind a dev. I hope, for their own sanity, devs don't read this shit.
Same i go from avn to avn daily and also play games on steam to fill out my day, this year has seen some great updates on avn's being dik is one of them a few other's smaller but also great. summer's gone is one i've been waiting for i hope to get soon, also power vaccum is one i'm waitng for, but in the mean time i keep myself busy, i do agree rushing a game is no way to build fans for the future even one fucked up update can ruin people's opinion of a dev so you have cross your I's and dot your T's before you put it out.
Probably. It's too early to say for sure, but I'm guessing her mother and Noji will play a more important role in Vanessa's story than Zara's. I think you're kind of overlooking the fact that meeting the Cyruses is also a big event for Vanessa. I mean, don't you find her behavior in chapter 4 wary and defensive? She observes and gathers information and manipulates because she sees them as a potential threat. I got that impression the first time I played and the second time that impression only strengthened.
All people wear masks when they interact with people from different social circles. To be sure that Vanessa was indeed manipulating Bella, we need to see how she behaves with her friends. What do you think she talks to them about? Her mind games or clothes, fashion, expensive jewelry, guys and the latest gossip? Was Vanessa more cautious around Bella? Probably, yeah. But it makes sense, they started hanging out for a few days. I personally don't think Vanessa plays her manipulative games 24/7.
If there is, my money is on Nick!So the question really is: can I count the non-shitty characters on one hand, or is there anyonone completely unshitty in the entire Oceanverse?
