BobTheDuck

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But she wore a mask. When they met, by the way Nika looked at her, Vanessa thought he was some kind of simp. So in the bedroom scene, she played her role accordingly, but she was wrong.

Of course, it's not because they're Cyrus's. I don't think Noji is the first woman Nick has invited to his home. And maybe Nika isn't the only person Vanessa pulled one of her tricks to get rid of potential new family members. But I don't think it's just because she considers them gold diggers.
I'm really over reaction limits.

That's exactly what I mean - if she was only as masked as she was with Nika at dinner, there's no way even Bella could mistake her for an airhead. We see how Bella does have some subtlety at the dinner, and dealing with Kate. She's more aware than she lets on, she's just frequently either self absorbed or careless of the consequences. What she said to Nika about Vanessa being Zara's sister? "I thought you knew" I mean, Nika had barely met Zara. Bella knows Zara doesn't think much of Nika from the torn top. So why would NIka know anything about Zara that very day? How long has he been at college?

But yeah, that perspective of Vanessa guarding her turf makes sense.
 

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I still think people are being way too hard on Vanessa. Even though I won't go as far as saying I like her personality, she has considerable bright spots. I'll point out once again that if it wasn't for Vanessa being who she is, their awful mother would have manipulated Zara into some serious consequences for Nick that would result at best into lost custody and at worst serious criminal or reputational damages that are hard to come back from.

Other than that there is also the show of respect towards the MC when she drops her act after realizing she can't fuck around with him as she does most everyone else. She also volunteers to take him shopping in what I see as some sort of apology/compensation for making wrong assumptions about him.

Finally another thing worth mentioning is that she points out the very positive effect he seems to have on Zara. By the end of the night she seems to approve and even welcome Noji, Nami and the MC to the family. To me, none of this paints a picture that Vanessa is any sort of threat or enemy to the MC or his goals. And I refuse to treat her as such until we know more.
 

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That's exactly what I mean - if she was only as masked as she was with Nika at dinner, there's no way even Bella could mistake her for an airhead. We see how Bella does have some subtlety at the dinner
Like I said, different social circles. Bella acts differently around Stefan even though she barely restrained herself, what subtlety are you talking about? Anyway, we're going in circles. Let's just drop that. :BootyTime:
 

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I am not saying anything bad about her, but she is an incredibly intelligent, dangerously manipulative tiger. She would be a great ally, and a dangerous enemy. She seems to be fond of her boyfriend, so that makes it more likely that she'll be an enemy, but maybe not if she ends up approving of of the new family dynamic. She definitely approves of Nika's dynamic with Zara, but that could just be entertainment value.
 
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Im sorry S1 was about 12000 S2 CH 1 is set to be 7000

Ocean from Steam:
"I must admit that I overdid it with the size of the next update. It will feature around 7000 still images.
To put this into perspective, Season 1 had 12000 in total.

So the next Chapter is almost as big as 60% of Season 1. "

A ok, 12000 for the complete season 1, I don't know why I had understood that chapter 1 would finally have 12000 renders.
 
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I am not saying anything bad about her, but she is an incredibly intelligent, dangerously manipulative tiger. She would be a great ally, and a dangerous enemy. She seems to be fond of her boyfriend, so that makes it more likely that she'll be an enemy, but maybe not if she ends up approving of of the new family dynamic. She definitely approves of Nika's dynamic with Zara, but that could just be entertainment value.
She loves him so much that she forces him to put a plug in the place where the sun doesn't penetrate. :HideThePain:
 
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Maccabbee

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She loves him so much that she forces him to put a plug in the place where the sun doesn't penetrate. :HideThePain:
Did you see the word "love" anywhere in my post? I said "fond," and she does defend him during that exchange, and says she uses one, too, to keep their relationship sympathetic. She seems to actually care about that asshole, but also has not indicated she cares that much to call it "love." I'd say she's just amusing herself.

Don't let your hangups about sex influence your opinions about this stuff. I don't want anything up my butt, either, but I don't judge anyone else for doing it. I am also not gay at all, but don't have a problem with other people being gay.
 

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Did you see the word "love" anywhere in my post? I said "fond," and she does defend him during that exchange, and says she uses one, too, to keep their relationship sympathetic. She seems to actually care about that asshole, but also has not indicated she cares that much to call it "love." I'd say she's just amusing herself.

Don't let your hangups about sex influence your opinions about this stuff. I don't want anything up my butt, either, but I don't judge anyone else for doing it. I am also not gay at all, but don't have a problem with other people being gay.

Affection or love, the border is close. Then what you say in your language means the same thing in mine. x)



I've got nothing against them either, that's not the point, just that if you affection someone you don't force them to do something.
 

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"Seems to be fond of her boyfriend" while cleary stating he is a inferior human being lmao

Loving someone like a pet in good old omni-man style
Nobody said she's a good human being! :ROFLMAO:

Dangerous, intelligent, and borderline sociopathic, just like Nika, and William, and sooooo many others.
 
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I really love the expression of Katie here XD . it feels like she's saying "that's the zane what I'm talking about" lol
"Uuuhuuuh our boy put this bitch in her place. Got what it takes."

I still dream of a scene of Leia metaphorically kicking holgersons ass at his gala in front of everyone when he makes digs at nika
 

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"Uuuhuuuh our boy put this bitch in her place. Got what it takes."

I still dream of a scene of Leia metaphorically kicking holgersons ass at his gala in front of everyone when he makes digs at nika
Have we even seen Leia in SG yet? I though Katie was it for the Zanes so far (other than Nika, Nami, and Ayua, who I'm assuming are William's kids with Miru and someone else).
 
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Have we even seen Leia in SG yet? I though Katie was it for the Zanes so far (other than Nika, Nami, and Ayua, who I'm assuming are William's kids with Miru and someone else).
I'm pretty sure that William and Daphne had kid. I might be wrong. but i have really strong feeling about it
 
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I'm pretty sure that William and Daphne had kid. I might be wrong. but i have really strong feeling about it
Ayua has got to be William and Miru's, right? It's pretty obvious that Miru is the mother, she looks mixed, and there's no fucking way William messed that relationship up canonically, right? If so, I'll have to kill myself in WIAB!
 
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Ayua has got to be William and Miru's, right? It's pretty obvious that Miru is the mother, she looks mixed, and there's no fucking way William messed that relationship up canonically, right? If so, I'll have to kill myself in WIAB!
naaah, I think william is fucked up. the only young zane we saw so far is Ayua. and that's impossible.
 

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Have we even seen Leia in SG yet? I though Katie was it for the Zanes so far (other than Nika, Nami, and Ayua, who I'm assuming are William's kids with Miru and someone else).
Nope we havent but holgersons and zane‘s are close, her being there wouldnt be suprising.

Shes still around and mentioned (like william) in the bookclub
 
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