VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Innocent->Devil]

After Patreon, Steam, it’s now Itch.io turn to crackdown on NSFW content

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Thanks to that feminist Collective of course.

Is your signature DP from a game or just an artwork?

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Not exactly.


But ofc a better metric is the number of copies sold.

I guess I just wanted to know if Ocean knows how people feel about his explanations as to why things take time, which a lot of people just call excuses to not work.

 

[El_Magnifico]

I guess I just wanted to know if Ocean knows how people feel about his explanations as to why things take time, which a lot of people just call excuses to not work.

He does but he's only driven by his artistic vision. People called him a milker but you gotta give the man some credits, he would probably keep working same way even if 90 % of his supported abandonned him.

 

[yossa999]

I guess I just wanted to know if Ocean knows how people feel about his explanations as to why things take time, which a lot of people just call excuses to not work.

Maybe you didn't know but Ocean had been on this site for quite a long time and had learned the local "consumers" very well. Actually, that's one of the reasons why he left here. So I guess he's well aware of how they think and behave.

But if you still worry that he might not know, you can visit his Discord and break the news to him. They become too soft there in my opinion and don't even ban for "update wen" and "seggs wen".

Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think he prefers to listen to people who are interested in the game and are willing to help develop it, and ignore those who can only blame and complain.

 

[miltonlucifer]

After Patreon, Steam, it’s now Itch.io turn to crackdown on NSFW content

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Thanks to that feminist Collective of course.

I'm really "worried' or at the very least bummed out by that fkn payment processor stuff. I just wonder if it won't pauperize sites like these and overall the market for nsfw. If you deprive creators from any platform to show their creativity in a certain theme, perhaps they will, in the long run, stop tackling those themes altogether. the Whole nsfw games niche is in peril. And there's fuck all anyone can do about it.

today it's just steam and itch, what if tomorrow is every distribution platform altogether. steam, itch, patreon, maybe subcribestar will succumb too . GOG will follow for sure and Patreon too,of that I am certain .
not sure where people like ocean will turn to then .....

 

[Crashbullet]

not sure where people like ocean will turn to then

On the boosty , no one knows about their existence

 

[miltonlucifer]

On the boosty , no one knows about their existence

I dunno man. that shit is gonna gain momentum pretty quickly, for the moment it's niche stuff, but it could very well contaminate mainstream stuff.

 

[Ilhares]

I dunno man. that shit is gonna gain momentum pretty quickly, for the moment it's niche stuff, but it could very well contaminate mainstream stuff.

I'd laugh my ass off if this was the event that catapulted a competitor to the forefront.
"We don't tell you how to spend your money. Discover what you like for yourself."

 

[miltonlucifer]

I'd laugh my ass off if this was the event that catapulted a competitor to the forefront.
"We don't tell you how to spend your money. Discover what you like for yourself."

mudahar (the youtube channel ) made a piece yesterday about it, it's super hard to create another payment processor, it's a shared monopoly so it's not as easy .

 

[O1duvai]

My neighbors were a family from Russia. They had a great saying about this.
"All troubles have one beginning: a woman was sitting and was bored..."

No, that's not where it started. This nonsense began when most of the world handed over ALL payments to two payment systems located in the same country (by the way, how is Trump doing? Has he brought order?). They don’t even care that their demands contradict absolutely all laws and long-existing age rating systems.

If a bored and unemployed, stupid person, regardless of gender, had no opportunities or leverage dictated by the monopoly of the two systems, none of this would have happened.

I see only one way out. Forums or darknet, where creators will create topics indicating their personal card numbers. There's just one problem, the point of forums such as this one. Relying on conscience... It’s naive.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

He does but he's only driven by his artistic vision. People called him a milker but you gotta give the man some credits, he would probably keep working same way even if 90 % of his supported abandonned him.

That´s kind of incredible, reallly.

Maybe you didn't know but Ocean had been on this site for quite a long time and had learned the local "consumers" very well. Actually, that's one of the reasons why he left here. So I guess he's well aware of how they think and behave.

But if you still worry that he might not know, you can visit his Discord and break the news to him. They become too soft there in my opinion and don't even ban for "update wen" and "seggs wen".

Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think he prefers to listen to people who are interested in the game and are willing to help develop it, and ignore those who can only blame and complain.

I didn´t know, I´m fairly new to this game, so I don´t know a lot about it´s makings. I´m sure he´s doing what he thinks it´s best for his work.

 

[miltonlucifer]

That´s kind of incredible, reallly.


I didn´t know, I´m fairly new to this game, so I don´t know a lot about it´s makings. I´m sure he´s doing what he thinks it´s best for his work.

I think he means well, but the problem is he's trying to tackle every single detail with the same dedication, and he scatters his his mind into them and try to achieve perfection for every single little thing.

and you know what they say about perfection being the enemy of progress. I don't think we'll see the end of his games before a decade. and that's a best case scenario.

there was supposed to be four of them If I recall correctly?

to his credit, what we get as a result is fantastic. precisely why it has gained such momentum and interest. his greatest strength is his greatest weakness.

 

[SToyS]

I guess I just wanted to know if Ocean knows how people feel about his explanations as to why things take time, which a lot of people just call excuses to not work.

This is a very common situation. I can tell you with confidence that people do not believe in excuses and never did. People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him.

Let's change the topic of games to cars or furniture (anything). Imagine how you come to the store and buy furniture. They tell you that they will deliver it at the end of the year. Then they tell you that it will not be possible at the end of the year and there will be a delay. You are upset about this, but you understand that anything can happen and continue to wait. At the beginning of the next year, they tell you that they stopped working on your furniture and started making another order. (I would be shocked by this). Then they tell you that your order was postponed to Q3, and a couple of months later you were told that the order was postponed to Q4.

Now tell me what you will do after this.... Will you go and tell everyone what a terrible store this is to warn them, or will you praise this store?

Of course you will scold this store and absolutely any person in your place will do the same. Ocean should understand this and change the situation for the better, otherwise instead of fame and millions of dollars he will be begging like Iccstore.

 

[Crashbullet]

People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him

What amuses me most about his sequence is when he writes to people tired of waiting "suspend your subscription or unsubscribe altogether" or he himself suspends the write-offs, citing that "money is not the main thing" but then the guy goes and changes the plot so as not to fly out of SS and steam for sensitive topics, and calls SS the most important source of income. Dude, you are... great

 

[Mamaragan]

but then the guy goes and changes the plot so as not to fly out of SS and steam for sensitive topics

And he was right considering the Pornapocalypse currently ongoing.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

I think he means well, but the problem is he's trying to tackle every single detail with the same dedication, and he scatters his his mind into them and try to achieve perfection for every single little thing.

and you know what they say about perfection being the enemy of progress. I don't think we'll see the end of his games before a decade. and that's a best case scenario.

there was supposed to be four of them If I recall correctly?

to his credit, what we get as a result is fantastic. precisely why it has gained such momentum and interest. his greatest strength is his greatest weakness.

That´s very well put. If you obsess about every detail, nothing progresses.
This game has probably the best renders I´ve seen, but maybe they didn´t needed to be that pretty.

And four what? Four games?!? He´s already doing two, right?
You can´t have too many things on your plate if you are a perfectionist, I would know that.

 

[Crashbullet]

And he was right considering the Pornapocalypse currently ongoing.

With his luck, I would buy a lottery ticket.
In fact, yes, he is right, but there are reasonable concerns that porn games will be removed from Steam completely, or V MC will be removed, due to the new rules, they literally wrote that they "have the right to disable payment for any 18+ content."
SG has nothing to fear, but WIAB...

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

This is a very common situation. I can tell you with confidence that people do not believe in excuses and never did. People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him.

Let's change the topic of games to cars or furniture (anything). Imagine how you come to the store and buy furniture. They tell you that they will deliver it at the end of the year. Then they tell you that it will not be possible at the end of the year and there will be a delay. You are upset about this, but you understand that anything can happen and continue to wait. At the beginning of the next year, they tell you that they stopped working on your furniture and started making another order. (I would be shocked by this). Then they tell you that your order was postponed to Q3, and a couple of months later you were told that the order was postponed to Q4.

Now tell me what you will do after this.... Will you go and tell everyone what a terrible store this is to warn them, or will you praise this store?

Of course you will scold this store and absolutely any person in your place will do the same. Ocean should understand this and change the situation for the better, otherwise instead of fame and millions of dollars he will be begging like Iccstore.

When you put it like that...I still think excuses is really a case by case scenario, but in this particular one, I agree with you.

 

[SToyS]

With his luck, I would buy a lottery ticket.
In fact, yes, he is right, but there are reasonable concerns that porn games will be removed from Steam completely, or V MC will be removed, due to the new rules, they literally wrote that they "have the right to disable payment for any 18+ content."
SG has nothing to fear, but WIAB...

Steam has a list of prohibited content. There is no point in being afraid of sex scenes.

p.s. I'll add a few words... I think it will be more dangerous if Ocean doesn't add sex to SG. In the comments, people constantly complain about the gay behavior of MC and that there has been no sex in the game for 6 years. I can do without sex if there is an interesting story. But if there is no sex and there is no interesting continuation of the game, I will definitely be unhappy.

 

[UncleFappy]

there was supposed to be four of them If I recall correctly?

And four what? Four games?!? He´s already doing two, right?

Five games. Each one 30 chapters long. According to his original plan.