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Leinad_Sevla

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He does but he's only driven by his artistic vision. People called him a milker but you gotta give the man some credits, he would probably keep working same way even if 90 % of his supported abandonned him. :HideThePain:
That´s kind of incredible, reallly.

Maybe you didn't know but Ocean had been on this site for quite a long time and had learned the local "consumers" very well. Actually, that's one of the reasons why he left here. So I guess he's well aware of how they think and behave.

But if you still worry that he might not know, you can visit his Discord and break the news to him. They become too soft there in my opinion and don't even ban for "update wen" and "seggs wen".

Of course, this is just my opinion, but I think he prefers to listen to people who are interested in the game and are willing to help develop it, and ignore those who can only blame and complain.
I didn´t know, I´m fairly new to this game, so I don´t know a lot about it´s makings. I´m sure he´s doing what he thinks it´s best for his work.
 
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miltonlucifer

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That´s kind of incredible, reallly.


I didn´t know, I´m fairly new to this game, so I don´t know a lot about it´s makings. I´m sure he´s doing what he thinks it´s best for his work.
I think he means well, but the problem is he's trying to tackle every single detail with the same dedication, and he scatters his his mind into them and try to achieve perfection for every single little thing.

and you know what they say about perfection being the enemy of progress. I don't think we'll see the end of his games before a decade. and that's a best case scenario.

there was supposed to be four of them If I recall correctly?

to his credit, what we get as a result is fantastic. precisely why it has gained such momentum and interest. his greatest strength is his greatest weakness.
 

SToyS

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I guess I just wanted to know if Ocean knows how people feel about his explanations as to why things take time, which a lot of people just call excuses to not work.
This is a very common situation. I can tell you with confidence that people do not believe in excuses and never did. People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him.

Let's change the topic of games to cars or furniture (anything). Imagine how you come to the store and buy furniture. They tell you that they will deliver it at the end of the year. Then they tell you that it will not be possible at the end of the year and there will be a delay. You are upset about this, but you understand that anything can happen and continue to wait. At the beginning of the next year, they tell you that they stopped working on your furniture and started making another order. (I would be shocked by this). Then they tell you that your order was postponed to Q3, and a couple of months later you were told that the order was postponed to Q4.

Now tell me what you will do after this.... Will you go and tell everyone what a terrible store this is to warn them, or will you praise this store?

Of course you will scold this store and absolutely any person in your place will do the same. Ocean should understand this and change the situation for the better, otherwise instead of fame and millions of dollars he will be begging like Iccstore.
 
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Crashbullet

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People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him
What amuses me most about his sequence is when he writes to people tired of waiting "suspend your subscription or unsubscribe altogether" or he himself suspends the write-offs, citing that "money is not the main thing" but then the guy goes and changes the plot so as not to fly out of SS and steam for sensitive topics, and calls SS the most important source of income. Dude, you are... great
 
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Leinad_Sevla

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I think he means well, but the problem is he's trying to tackle every single detail with the same dedication, and he scatters his his mind into them and try to achieve perfection for every single little thing.

and you know what they say about perfection being the enemy of progress. I don't think we'll see the end of his games before a decade. and that's a best case scenario.

there was supposed to be four of them If I recall correctly?

to his credit, what we get as a result is fantastic. precisely why it has gained such momentum and interest. his greatest strength is his greatest weakness.
That´s very well put. If you obsess about every detail, nothing progresses.
This game has probably the best renders I´ve seen, but maybe they didn´t needed to be that pretty.

And four what? Four games?!? He´s already doing two, right?
You can´t have too many things on your plate if you are a perfectionist, I would know that.
 
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Crashbullet

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And he was right :) considering the Pornapocalypse currently ongoing.
With his luck, I would buy a lottery ticket.
In fact, yes, he is right, but there are reasonable concerns that porn games will be removed from Steam completely, or V MC will be removed, due to the new rules, they literally wrote that they "have the right to disable payment for any 18+ content."
SG has nothing to fear, but WIAB...
 

Leinad_Sevla

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This is a very common situation. I can tell you with confidence that people do not believe in excuses and never did. People can believe excuses once, but when a person constantly makes excuses, no one believes him.

Let's change the topic of games to cars or furniture (anything). Imagine how you come to the store and buy furniture. They tell you that they will deliver it at the end of the year. Then they tell you that it will not be possible at the end of the year and there will be a delay. You are upset about this, but you understand that anything can happen and continue to wait. At the beginning of the next year, they tell you that they stopped working on your furniture and started making another order. (I would be shocked by this). Then they tell you that your order was postponed to Q3, and a couple of months later you were told that the order was postponed to Q4.

Now tell me what you will do after this.... Will you go and tell everyone what a terrible store this is to warn them, or will you praise this store?

Of course you will scold this store and absolutely any person in your place will do the same. Ocean should understand this and change the situation for the better, otherwise instead of fame and millions of dollars he will be begging like Iccstore.
When you put it like that...I still think excuses is really a case by case scenario, but in this particular one, I agree with you.
 

SToyS

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With his luck, I would buy a lottery ticket.
In fact, yes, he is right, but there are reasonable concerns that porn games will be removed from Steam completely, or V MC will be removed, due to the new rules, they literally wrote that they "have the right to disable payment for any 18+ content."
SG has nothing to fear, but WIAB...
Steam has a list of prohibited content. There is no point in being afraid of sex scenes.

p.s. I'll add a few words... I think it will be more dangerous if Ocean doesn't add sex to SG. In the comments, people constantly complain about the gay behavior of MC and that there has been no sex in the game for 6 years. I can do without sex if there is an interesting story. But if there is no sex and there is no interesting continuation of the game, I will definitely be unhappy.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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The MC has a medical condition/mental block that prevents him from getting an erection in most cases (Nami is the only person who can 'wake wormy').

I believe that the next Amber therapy visit (the visit to the cabin) will be a turning point for the MC, and that her unusual take on therapy will help him to start to break through his condition.

Sex is not necessarily limited to the MC's ability to get a hard on though.

Some of the Bella renders from previous dev logs hint at the MC/Bella having some fun in what looks like Claire's office, but until we see the entire scene/scenes - we don't Know how far they get to take things.

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For those who are only interested in Ocean showing he can deliver sexy time - WIAB is the place to find it.

I'm looking forward to the story and time with all the LI's when the first rev of S2 lands.

Bella and Zara time are at the top of my list and I am really looking forward to the scene with this:

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Will the banana survive the hunger pains that follow... - Inquiring minds want to know! :cool:

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

miltonlucifer

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Five games. Each one 30 chapters long. According to his original plan.
five games , 30 chapters each
at this current rate, we'll get SG completed in 2050
with this scorched earth policy against NSFW we'll be happy to have chapter 8 before 2030 when all NSFW content will be banned from Visa/Master.
 

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The MC has a medical condition/mental block that prevents him from getting an erection in most cases (Nami is the only person who can 'wake wormy').

I believe that the next Amber therapy visit (the visit to the cabin) will be a turning point for the MC, and that her unusual take on therapy will help him to start to break through his condition.

Sex is not necessarily limited to the MC's ability to get a hard on though.

Some of the Bella renders from previous dev logs hint at the MC/Bella having some fun in what looks like Claire's office, but until we see the entire scene/scenes - we don't Know how far they get to take things.

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For those who are only interested in Ocean showing he can deliver sexy time - WIAB is the place to find it.

I'm looking forward to the story and time with all the LI's when the first rev of S2 lands.

Bella and Zara time are at the top of my list and I am really looking forward to the scene with this:

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Will the banana survive the hunger pains that follow... - Inquiring minds want to know! :cool:

Cheers!! :coffee:
Fuck it looks good.. I have been looking forward to more Bella for over a year now.. Hope Ocean is doing good, but seems like he/she is working hard
 

endriux

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I think that Ocean is a perfectionist. On one hand, it's good because we get solid material, but on the other hand, it definitely takes too long.
 
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