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I'd say that she's sad about Summer, not Nika
Initially I thought this too but...she's Summer's cousin. Even if the MC is in the dark, it's likely she knows exactly what happened and where Summer is. Which would make even more sense that her post was about the MC. Someone she hasn't seen or heard from in years.

It can go either way rhough. But right now I'm guessing it's not about Summer as I'm no longer convinced she's dead. Ocean could not resist bringing her back for some future drama even though I would 1000% prefer is she was never to return.
 

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Elsa might just not consider them responsibles while her family does, or she see the whole thing as a tragedy that nobody is at fault, she could even blame Summer. Or Elsa simply does not has enough information to know anything. I don't really like the Nami yandere theory but I don't think her or Nika is with out blame, it feels to me like a domino fall the ended up in a tragedy.
But still, the thing here is thta where are Summer's parents? If Elsa has no information, it's because Summer's parents aren't around either - there's no way close family wouldn't be weirded out by Summer being gone with no information or funeral. Elsa talking in cagey terms, dancing around mentionig Summer in the restaurant implies she knows what Nika's been through - she also went to the same school I think. So I think she knows quite a bit. Which if she does, her spending time with Nika could be an important development of the plot. But he's got to get a working phone app and learn social media skills first ...so many things for him to learn!
 
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Nope, no knowledge of who Summer's parents are. An intentional blank so that whatever revelation hits, it'll be an eye opener I'm sure.



Yeah nice catch, you're right. But since those I thought I recalled him saying that most throuples will fail. But still, throuple is not a harem, and very few were compatible - I think he also mentioned they're proper triangles, and if you neglect them, jealosy, seeking comfort with the other part of the triangle, stuff like that etc will occur.

Not putting high hopes on many of these simply because of the size of each update that would be required. I think it's going to fall into the too hard basket like the optional clothing styles that require twice the number of renders. Eventually, we'll get one or two kinds of these options, it won't be endless or each update will be 15GB per chapter - or they'll be token, just to keep a dev promise.
It's not that they will fail, since they have endings, it's that they are hard to maintain because of the conflicts within. So hard to get, hard to preserve. You also have open relationship tho. Or you can be a fuckboy and fuck side girls without caring.
Or get the solo route where you stay a virgin forever (no clue why you'd want that tho) :BootyTime:
 
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It's not that they will fail, since they have endings, it's that they are hard to maintain because of the conflicts within. So hard to get, hard to preserve. You also have open relationship tho. Or you can be a fuckboy and fuck side girls without caring.
Or get the solo route where you stay a virgin forever (no clue why you'd want that tho) :BootyTime:
An ending doesn't mean a good thing though, say Ocean plans a NBK style jail ending for a Nika, Jeff and Bella throuple.

Endings can be funerals. :Kappa:
 
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Nope, no knowledge of who Summer's parents are. An intentional blank so that whatever revelation hits, it'll be an eye opener I'm sure.



Yeah nice catch, you're right. But since those I thought I recalled him saying that most throuples will fail. But still, throuple is not a harem, and very few were compatible - I think he also mentioned they're proper triangles, and if you neglect them, jealosy, seeking comfort with the other part of the triangle, stuff like that etc will occur.

Not putting high hopes on many of these simply because of the size of each update that would be required. I think it's going to fall into the too hard basket like the optional clothing styles that require twice the number of renders. Eventually, we'll get one or two kinds of these options, it won't be endless or each update will be 15GB per chapter - or they'll be token, just to keep a dev promise.
Initially I thought this too but...she's Summer's cousin. Even if the MC is in the dark, it's likely she knows exactly what happened and where Summer is. Which would make even more sense that her post was about the MC. Someone she hasn't seen or heard from in years.

It can go either way rhough. But right now I'm guessing it's not about Summer as I'm no longer convinced she's dead. Ocean could not resist bringing her back for some future drama even though I would 1000% prefer is she was never to return.

Please let you me wrong. The only thing tbT could make me drop this is Summer coming back, I hate this idea. But Elsa could be sad about Nika too, it depends on her role in the story and that we can't know.
 

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Please let you me wrong. The only thing tbT could make me drop this is Summer coming back, I hate this idea. But Elsa could be sad about Nika too, it depends on her role in the story and that we can't know.
I've had that opinion since I've played this version for the first time. Summer's eventual return would straight up undo everything achieved up until that moment. Every inch of progress accomplished by the MC in his healing process instantly gone with her resurgence. But I bet you it's gonna happen. Such is the Ocean way ;)
 

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But still, the thing here is thta where are Summer's parents? If Elsa has no information, it's because Summer's parents aren't around either - there's no way close family wouldn't be weirded out by Summer being gone with no information or funeral. Elsa talking in cagey terms, dancing around mentionig Summer in the restaurant implies she knows what Nika's been through - she also went to the same school I think. So I think she knows quite a bit. Which if she does, her spending time with Nika could be an important development of the plot. But he's got to get a working phone app and learn social media skills first ...so many things for him to learn!
If we go by how Elsa parents talked about Summer, maybe they were not so close, family relationships are always the most complicated ones. As for Summers parents...The loss of a child is a powerful thing, a number of things could have happen. If Elsa knows why Nika just don't aks her and gets his peace of mind ? That for me is the problem with Summer situation, it can't be something as simple as she was hit by a car, it has to related to Nika in some form and not be só fantastical that is unbeliaviable,is a difficult line to walk on.
 
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I've had that opinion since I've played this version for the first time. Summer's eventual return would straight up undo everything achieved up until that moment. Every inch of progress accomplished by the MC in his healing process instantly gone with her resurgence. But I bet you it's gonna happen. Such is the Ocean way ;)
Stil hoping you are wrong but can't say is impossible
 
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Not too complicated - most people I know don't use their real names on social media, sometimes just for fancy. Or do you really think I'm a duck? Almost every teacher I know has a different social media name so their students can't find them. It's really common. But as I said I'm just wondering, there's always more that's possible.
There is something funny about Ocean’s talk on endings. It's not like there’s a game with ~30 lewdable characters and zero scenes. It's like compressing a spring, the longer he delays the scenes, the more of them there will have to be later.
 

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If we go by how Elsa parents talked about Summer, maybe they were not so close, family relationships are always the most complicated ones. As for Summers parents...The loss of a child is a powerful thing, a number of things could have happen. If Elsa knows why Nika just don't aks her and gets his peace of mind ? That for me is the problem with Summer situation, it can't be something as simple as she was hit by a car, it has to related to Nika in some form and not be só fantastical that is unbeliaviable,is a difficult line to walk on.
SOmething has to be stopping Summers parents from talking with Elsa's parents, or anyone finding out. What could do that? Otherwise, Nika would see some newspaper clippings. The fact there is no information publically available means Nia can't find Summer's parents to ask about her friend either. THer is a big absence.

As far as the closeness of family - Elsa and Summer are cousins, and appear to go to the same school and hang out with each other's friends. THey're close. Especially as Elsa's on a watched diet, and Elsa's mom allows her to go out with Summer unattended at the risk of too much icecream. Seems all like close family, with the same kind of bickering close family get up to included.
 
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There is something funny about Ocean’s talk on endings. It's not like there’s a game with ~30 lewdable characters and zero scenes. It's like compressing a spring, the longer he delays the scenes, the more of them there will have to be later.
I really like the game, but every time Ocean talks about the future it appears more and more like a dream than anything else. Too many variables
 

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SOmething has to be stopping Summers parents from talking with Elsa's parents, or anyone finding out. What could do that? Otherwise, Nika would see some newspaper clippings. The fact there is no information publically available means Nia can't find Summer's parents to ask about her friend either. THer is a big absence.

As far as the closeness of family - Elsa and Summer are cousins, and appear to go to the same school and hang out with each other's friends. THey're close. Especially as Elsa's on a watched diet, and Elsa's mom allows her to go out with Summer unattended at the risk of too much icecream. Seems all like close family, with the same kind of bickering close family get up to included.
The reason can be as simple as they don't want to talk to her, or for some reason they can't. Maybe Summer incident was not worthy of newspApper.I agree that their a absence is most likely a plot point, but so far that means very little

Not really, we all see things for the lens of our experience. Despite my mother and sister don't talking with eachother I grew up around my cousins, I had a close relationship with them but that did not translante in a close relationship between our parents. Point is, we don't know nothing of their dynamics, we speculate, and I even agr de e with you that they more likely had a relationship. As for the ice cream, I think Elsa mom belived on the beaten she would give Elsa more than anything else.
 

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If Elsa and Summer are paternal cousins, it would make Summer a D'Uclaux de La Valette, too.
No wonder her parents didn't approve an orphan mutt of a boyfriend and decided to move into another one of their residences, possibly back in France and put their daughter into one of those Catholic boarding schools for girls only. :rolleyes:
 

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If Elsa and Summer are paternal cousins, it would make Summer a D'Uclaux de La Valette, too.
No wonder her parents didn't approve an orphan mutt of a boyfriend and decided to move into another one of their residences, possibly back in France and put their daughter into one of those Catholic boarding schools for girls only. :rolleyes:
Or her hand was promised to the "Barzini family" and to take her away from the boy with whom she could be seen and think wrongly about the girl's family.
 

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If Elsa and Summer are paternal cousins, it would make Summer a D'Uclaux de La Valette, too.
No wonder her parents didn't approve an orphan mutt of a boyfriend and decided to move into another one of their residences, possibly back in France and put their daughter into one of those Catholic boarding schools for girls only. :rolleyes:
That wouldn't explain why Elsa talks about it is sucha weird way:

el "It's been so long. I... I thought I'd never see you again, afte-..."
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d "You don't need to mention 'it'."
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b "What was 'it'?"
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d "None of your fucking business."
Bella notices the stress on 'it'. So something that both Nika and Elsa knew about. Nika doesn't know about Summer moving to France (although that's a legit option), so the 'it' whatever it was, Elsa thought she'd never see Nika again. Did she witness him getting beaten to a pulp by Summer's dad? Why would she think she'd never see Nika again, when she's still in the same town?

Good idea on the boarding school/moving abroad, and there's many options for that to happen outside of the name. It doesn't have to be France. I vaguely rcall Ocean saying Nika will leave Wollust at some point in the gam, not sure if that's true still or if I misremember things.
 
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That wouldn't explain why Elsa talks about it is sucha weird way:



Bella notices the stress on 'it'. So something that both Nika and Elsa knew about. Nika doesn't know about Summer moving to France (although that's a legit option), so the 'it' whatever it was, Elsa thought she'd never see Nika again. Did she witness him getting beaten to a pulp by Summer's dad? Why would she think she'd never see Nika again, when she's still in the same town?
There's no reason both can't be true or something similar. "It" can be something else than Summer's family moving away.
Also, we know that Nika was arrested at some point. We don't know when or why. Maybe the reason for his arrest was "it" and maybe both D'Uclaux de La Valette families moved away at the same time, only Elsa's family or just her alone returned only recently.

We have no information about it and it's all a speculation, but Summer's parents antipathy towards Nika likely had something to do with the lack of money or pedigree. Elsa having an old paternal aristocratic family tree would be a good reason, even if Summer wasn't a D'Uclaux de La Valette. Having an aristocratic mother who married into money (or mafia :HideThePain:) might be even worse.
Good idea on the boarding school/moving abroad, and there's many options for that to happen outside of the name. It doesn't have to be France. I vaguely rcall Ocean saying Nika will leave Wollust at some point in the gam, not sure if that's true still or if I misremember things.
Exactly, "France" and "boarding school" were obviously just random examples, could have been some other places and means to block communication between Summer and Nika.
 
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