VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[DarkOs31]

When I started playing it was 2 adopted children who shared parents. The story made sense and Nami is simply fukkin GORGEOUS!

It has been over time that the unstoppable tit growth happened and the story elements changed to appease Patron and he started to disavow the patch. The Steam release without the hot tub scene, all for no change in rating, was a big pile of shit on top of all else. As Queen Avaron says, I hope to be proven wrong. Also, until Nami gets too inflated I will continue to hope. Even if I feel like it is a 1 in a million shot.


PEACE

When the game started MC was a fucking cool psycho who "almost" shot the teacher who made Vic a cripple...
Nika and Nami were blood related only their foster mom wasn't,she was (and still is) the best friend from their parents...

YEEESSS,i hate the changes too ,Nami's body bleh,Vic would be hot without the titty boost,and don't get me started on Mila ...
Is this a phantasy for insecure teens who need melon boobs ?? OMG Anime nosebleed,i'll die now!! WTF,did the dev never saw girls/young women in real life??

 

[Ray_D]

Camwhore, Cripple, Jabba, Hijab, Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch, Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch's sister, Banana, Inappropriate Shrink, Woman Behind the Wheel, Nami, Sasha and Bella.

These should be the mains ones. But it's Ocean so you know...

Camwhore: I call her the iron maiden, because of the amount of metal piercing the poor thing has.

Cripple: Show some respect, man. Her real name is Hot Wheels.

Jabba: I'll just say this.


Hijab: Average population of the UK and Europe in the future. Only uglier and more inbred.

Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch: She just needs a little tough love.


Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch's sister: Kill her, don't ask questions.

Banana: Give her the meat banana and see what happens.

Inappropriate Shrink: I'm not familiar with that.

Woman Behind the Wheel: I'm not familiar with that.

Nami: The retard.

Sasha: The Russian mobster.

Bella: I want to have sex, but my boyfriend is a traumatized emo with erectile dysfunction and a Yu-Gi-Oh character haircut.

 

[Ray_D]

Man,don't remember me about this horror nightmare...
Living without Bella,Ayua and Sasha pure horror!!!

I've been waiting for years for the training session with Ayua.

 

[DarkOs31]

Camwhore: I call her the iron maiden, because of the amount of metal piercing the poor thing has.

Cripple: Show some respect, man. Her real name is Hot Wheels.

Jabba: I'll just say this.
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Hijab: Average population of the UK and Europe in the future. Only uglier and more inbred.

Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch: She just needs a little tough love.
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Arrogant Obnoxious Bitch's sister: Kill her, don't ask questions.

Banana: Give her the meat banana and see what happens.

Inappropriate Shrink: I'm not familiar with that.

Woman Behind the Wheel: I'm not familiar with that.

Nami: The retard.

Sasha: The Russian mobster.

Bella: I want to have sex, but my boyfriend is a traumatized emo with erectile dysfunction and a Yu-Gi-Oh character haircut.

Take it back!!!
The fuck you insult Yu-Gi-Oh!!!
Darkness Deck with 3 Dark magician of Chaos and 3 Raigeki in a loop + 3 Dark armored Dragon + 3 bottomless + 3 dimension prison ,3 crushcard virus (the og version) and spice it up with zombie master,plaguespreader zombie ,mezuki,shutendoji,gomblinzombie,book of life,book of moon,mirror force and you crushed the meta ...Maybe feather as backup...
I made i to the finals in shinjuku in 2013 without the crappy destiny draw ...rage ...
just joking...

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I've been waiting for years for the training session with Ayua.

Ayua during training:

 

[jaw1986baby]

Ayua during training:
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See in WIAB when Miru fights Jabba the Leia it is realistic she is fast and athletic.

Ayua got saddled with 100KG of tits that make it unlikely she can move out of anyone's way

 

[DarkOs31]

See in WIAB when Miru fights Jabba the Leia it is realistic she is fast and athletic.

Ayua got saddled with 100KG of tits that make it unlikely she can move out of anyone's way

You're a sadist ,no?
Making us imagine those horror

 

[BobTheDuck]

1. Marla is stressed after the accident, but she has no psychological problems. Moreover, Marla and Amber are old friends, not a patient and a doctor, do not confuse.
2. Sasha takes medications that help her to focus and concentrate. Many nerds use such medications to study better. And the fact that Sasha is a nerd is said there several times. Apart from this, no one says that she has psychological problems.
3. The conversation about Sonya is generally funny. Judging by what you wrote, you have more problems than she does.
4. Nia did not have a nervous breakdown. She just wanted to fuck, she even showed her tits to MC, and this (idiot/impotent) did not understand this and went home.
5. You are not paying attention, Zara's mother did not suppress her self-esteem, but tried to make a professional athlete out of her, and Zara was not interested in this. If Zara was suppressed, she would not have a competitive nature and desire to win.
6. Where does it say that Bella has problems, did you read this, in which dialogue? The only thing we know is that Bella does not like to talk about her sister and this reason is unknown to anyone.
7. There is no point in talking about Nami, this is the most incomprehensible and inadequate character.

It is strange that in any situation you see psychological problems.

Try harder.

1. If you compliment Marla on her haircut, you find out that she is indeed seeing Amber for therapy. Which would be obvious to anyone playing the game, who notices she starts smokingwhen stressed by Nika. And she wants shared therapy with Nika, because he's part of her problem. Just try playing th game dude.

ma "Thank you..."
ma "Well... you should thank Amber for that."
scene ab605 with dssa
d "It's good to know that therapy is helping someone, at least."
scene ab606 with dssa
ma "Is it because you had to see the 'accident'?"
scene ab607 with dssa
d "I don't know. I'm not good at emotional conflict resolution either."
scene ab606 with dssa
ma "I will talk to Amber about... something."
scene ab608 with dssa
d "About what exactly?"
"Miss Marla gazes into the room thoughtfully."
scene ab609 with dssa
ma "[name]... you are part of my- problems."
scene ab610 with dssa
ma "I want us to have a therapy session together."
scene ab611 with dssa
d "Does Amber do that?"
scene ab610 with dssa
ma "I am sure she will when I ask her."
scene ab611 with dssa
d "I see."

2. Sertraline is an antidepressant medication, basically zoloft. if you take it when you're not depressed it reduces brain volume of your memory, and your ability to regulate your mood. So no, Sasha's not taking it for performance enhancement. Try harder to play the game.

sas "They only help with the symptoms."
scene sb1190 with dssa
d "...Why do you have them?"
scene sb1192 with dssa
"Her gaze turns cold and she averts it."
scene sb1193 with dssa
d "Thanks."
d "But I still need the name of those pills."
scene sb1194 with dssa
sas "Sertraline."

3. It's a cultural/social problem. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. She has a controlling family. Her trauma over leaving that controlling environment hasn't been explored, Nika's only just pushing her to get out of their influence. Are you that naive to believe that a controlling family won't leave emotional scars?

4. Nia's last words in that scene are:

"*Faint whisper* All alone."

So her issue is not sex, look at the difference with Bella who is clearly frustrated when Nika can't get it up. Nia's not horny, she wants Nika close because she's lonely, and that's the only thing she thinks she can use to keep him longer. Did you even read her story about how she had no friends except Summer? Her whole persona is awkward to the point she has a safe word with Nami to prevent her being socially awkward.

5. Did you even look at the image of bibi Zara being scolded? Oh, and her mom tried to gaslight her into believing Nick abused her. DId you read the game?

za "Vanessa and I can't forgive her for what she tried to do."
d "Like?"
if fitness == 2 or mobility == 1:
$ InfZaraMom = True
scene ad965 with dssa
za "She tried to frame Dad when we were younger."
za "When he discovered that she was cheating and wanted a divorce, she tried to convince Vanessa and I that Dad had touched us inappropriately."
za "We were children and easy to influence."
scene ad966 with dssa
za "I almost caved and started to believe it when Vanessa talked some sense into me."

b "Zara and I used to play in the same football club."
b "And while her father was working all day, her Mother took her to the games."
b "Whenever we had any major games... Well, as major as a child game can be... and Zara had a bad or even decent game."
scene sb1796 with dssb
b "She'd scream at her in front of everyone, tell her how useless she is and as if she's doing it on purpose to embarrass her."
scene sb1795 with vpunch
b "Sometimes she even just left her there..."
scene sa334a with dssr
b "We were like eight or nine"
b "Like what the fuck... She'd just leave a little girl standing in the rain."
b "She also didn't hesitate to get physical."
scene sa335a with dssa

Zara was having her 'self esteem suppressed'. That's exactly what belittling her in front of others is, telling her how useless she was, and there was physical violence. So again, did you read the game?

6. Really? You didn't notice that Bella snapped when Nika asked about her sister? You didn't notice that Bella admitted she's broken?

b "But we cannot be together."
scene ac21 with dssa
d "I was about to say the same."
d "We're-."
scene ac22 with dssb
b "Too broken..."
b "And- I think we would just drag each other down further."

Or the text messages where Bella admits her mom hasn't been able to help her?



Or Ayua freaking out over Nika pushing Bella about her sister? Amber mentioning that Bella's ....seen some things?

am "I think... you as her project partner should know that Bella is very sensitive."
am "She has seen some things and- I don't want this to happen again."

ay "You'd better pray that she's okay or I'll hurt you really, really bad."

n "WHAT WOULD YOU'VE DONE IF SOMEONE PUSHED YOU ON THE SUMMER TOPIC!"
d "Che-"
scene sba59 with vpunch
n "NO!"
n "You took it too far! What's the harm?! You fucking bitch ass retard!"
scene sba60 with vpunch
n "Y-YOU would go berserk if someone talked shit about Summer!"
n "And now you did the same to her?!"

And Nika gets sent to therapy, because of pushing Bella about her sister. That is the last straw for Noji, that Nika can't emotionally read the room and make good choices.

7. Nami's issues - regardless of how Ocean's changed her role, Nami's involved in something that caused Nika to be the way he is and why he needs therapy. It's most likely something to do with Summer, but we don't know yet.

d "...Right."
scene ae915 with dssa
n "What?"
scene ae916 with dssa
d "I have to- yeah, I have to break our deal."
scene ae917 with dssa
n "Which one? The one where we don't scare each other anymore?"
scene ae916 with dssa
d "No."
d "The... The deal we made a long time ago."
scene ae918 with dssa
"Nami's face turns pale and she takes on a very weird posture."
n "*Gulp*"
scene ae919 with dssa
n "Is that really necessary?"
scene ae920 with dssa
"You stand there for a moment, your mouth a little agape and unsure what to say."
scene ae921 with dssb
d "I lied to Amber... You are... You are partly responsible for the way I am."
scene ae922 with dssa
n "We- [name]... But it shouldn't matter what happened?"
scene ae921 with dssa
d "Nami... Try to understand that these things don't just vanish... They still affect me... They're a reason for my lack of impulse control."
d "And I get the feeling, that all you do is an overcompensation... To make up for-"
scene ae923 with vpunch
n "It's not!"
scene ae924 with dssb
"You squat down"
pause
d "I hope it's not."
scene ae925 with dssa
n "It really isn't..."
scene ae926 with dssa
pause
scene ae927 with dssa
n "But if it helps... Talk about it with her."
n "You know I would never be like that again."
scene ae928 with dssa
d "I know."
scene ae929 with dssa
n "And, and if Amber wants me there for a session, I would do it."

But you've read the game right? You know all this. You didn't control click your way through the game at all.

 

[DarkOs31]

Try harder.

1. If you compliment Marla on her haircut, you find out that she is indeed seeing Amber for therapy. Which would be obvious to anyone playing the game, who notices she starts smokingwhen stressed by Nika. And she wants shared therapy with Nika, because he's part of her problem. Just try playing th game dude.



2. Sertraline is an antidepressant medication, basically zoloft. if you take it when you're not depressed it reduces brain volume of your memory, and your ability to regulate your mood. So no, Sasha's not taking it for performance enhancement. Try harder to play the game.



3. It's a cultural/social problem. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. She has a controlling family. Her trauma over leaving that controlling environment hasn't been explored, Nika's only just pushing her to get out of their influence. Are you that naive to believe that a controlling family won't leave emotional scars?

4. Nia's last words in that scene are:



So her issue is not sex, look at the difference with Bella who is clearly frustrated when Nika can't get it up. Nia's not horny, she wants Nika close because she's lonely, and that's the only thing she thinks she can use to keep him longer. Did you even read her story about how she had no friends except Summer? Her whole persona is awkward to the point she has a safe word with Nami to prevent her being socially awkward.

5. Did you even look at the image of bibi Zara being scolded? Oh, and her mom tried to gaslight her into believing Nick abused her. DId you read the game?





Zara was having her 'self esteem suppressed'. That's exactly what belittling her in front of others is, telling her how useless she was, and there was physical violence. So again, did you read the game?

6. Really? You didn't notice that Bella snapped when Nika asked about her sister? You didn't notice that Bella admitted she's broken?



Or the text messages where Bella admits her mom hasn't been able to help her?

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Or Ayua freaking out over Nika pushing Bella about her sister? Amber mentioning that Bella's ....seen some things?



And Nika gets sent to therapy, because of pushing Bella about her sister. That is the last straw for Noji, that Nika can't emotionally read the room and make good choices.

7. Nami's issues - regardless of how Ocean's changed her role, Nami's involved in something that caused Nika to be the way he is and why he needs therapy. It's most likely something to do with Summer, but we don't know yet.



But you've read the game right? You know all this. You didn't control click your way through the game at all.

I get your point,but Nr.1 makes no sense without the original script where Nika shot a blank at her,no?
Why whould Nika be a part of her problem when he's just a wittness at this point?

BTW. Are YOU feeling superior by belittling other cuz you are so mighty cuz you read it all,watch your tone and be friendly,we have enough toxic threads...
Do we really need to make this thread toxic too??

 

[BobTheDuck]

I get your point,but Nr.1 makes no sense without the original script where Nika shot a blank at her,no?
Why whould Nika be a part of her problem when he's just a wittness at this point?

Regardless, she's going to therapy. Before the gun was removed, there was still this dialogue even if you threw the gun away. The implication is that we'll find out some more of her issues with Nika when she talks with him on the roof (that Ocean's given us previews of) - it's rather strange for a lecturer to take a student off to a private location like a rooftop, when they have an office, so it's unlikely to be about official things.

My guess is that Marla knew of Summer. Also, we have either Marla's husband, brother or father in WiaB, who was a dean at Schwarz (the uni where Vanessa and Mario go, and where Katie, Kat and Dana went.). Don't know his connection to her yet, other than the same surname.

 

[DarkOs31]

Regardless, sh's going to therapy. Brfore the gun was removed, there was still this dialogue even if you threw the gun away. The implication is that we'll find out some more of her issues with Nika when she talks with him on the roof (that Ocean's given us previews of) - it's rather strange for a lecturer to take a student off to a private location like a rooftop, when they have an office, so it's unlikely to be about official things.

My guess is that Marla knw of Summer. Also, we have either Marla's husband, brother or father in WiaB, who was a dean at Schwarz (the uni where Vanessa and Mario go, and where Katie, Kat and Dana went.). Don't know his connection to her yet, other than the same surname.

that's the point,you are guessing...All we know right now is,Nika was just a wittness,nothing more nothing less,Marla even said there was no need to involve him in an investigation when Nika asked why there was never a police officer questioning him in the first place...
There's no screentime where Marla and Nika meet on a rooftop,except those previews you mentioned...
Later hints don't make sense either,going so far as crossrefering with WIAB also doesn't make sense in this situation...It's a weak point,trying to get an upperhand to the person you tried to belittle at this point...
YES your guesses are valid,and most of them i believe could be true...
I'm just questioning your tone and motives at this point...
I don't have a problem with you,it's quite the opposite...

 

[BobTheDuck]

that's the point,you are guessing...All we know right now is,Nika was just a wittness,nothing more nothing less,Marla even said there was no need to involve him in an investigation when Nika asked why there was never a police officer questioning him in the first place...
There's no screentime where Marla and Nika meet on a rooftop,except those previews you mentioned...
Later hints don't make sense either,going so far as crossrefering with WIAB also doesn't make sense in this situation...It's a weak point,trying to get an upperhand to the person you tried to belittle at this point...
YES your guesses are valid,and most of them i believe could be true...
I'm just questioning your tone and motives at this point...
I don't have a problem with you,it's quite the opposite...

Except that we still have Marla's discussion in the game, that she wants therapy with Nika, and that happens with or without the gun being thrown away pre the last rework. That means the therapy is not to do with the gun, as it happens whether or not the gun was attempted. Now of course, it just happens without the gun scene. The discussion also shows that Nika knows Marla is getting therapy from Amber: "therapy is helping someone, at least."

Also, Nika wants to look at Marla's therapy files. Forgot to add that detail:

d "(Marla didn't look so great... I wonder if it was because of the talk.)"
scene m1152 with pixellate
pause
d "(Amber must know... I'm sure Marla told her about it.)"
d "(Bella could help me take a look at the files... It'd be interesting to see what they actually talked about.)"
scene ae1192 with dssa
d "I see."

So Ocean's intention is for us to believe Marla's getting therapy.

The point about my extrapolation regarding why Marla wants therapy with Nika, that's my response to you, not proof of anything. I obviously don't have season 2, and am in the same boat as everyone waiting in the thread. THe point I made about Marla getting therapy is still in the game. My opinions about why, well I'm happy to theorise while waiting for the next chapter.

As far as belittling people - how did this chain start?

Original post

 

[DarkOs31]

1. If you compliment Marla on her haircut, you find out that she is indeed seeing Amber for therapy. Which would be obvious to anyone playing the game, who notices she starts smokingwhen stressed by Nika. And she wants shared therapy with Nika, because he's part of her problem. Just try playing th game dude.

Again,why is Nika part of her problem,when he never participated in any way,he was a wittness ffs,nothing more nothing less. Why is she stressed about him in the first place?Marla is smoking cuz she is stressed by Nika?WHY??
Again she want's shared therapy with him because of what again??Cuz he wittnessed the accident like every other NPC/person on that damn street at that exact damn time??

 

[BobTheDuck]

Again,why is Nika part of her problem,when he never participated in any way,he was a wittness ffs,nothing more nothing less. Why is she stressed about him in the first place?Marla is smoking cuz she is stressed by Nika?WHY??
Again she want's shared therapy with him because of what again??Cuz he wittnessed the accident like every other NPC/person on that damn street at that exact damn time??

Why don't know. Why does Sasha have a scar? We don't know. What was Nami and Nika's deal? We don't know. What is Nadia's story? We don't know.

There is a lot of stuff that is yet to be covered in the game. The point is Marla IS getting therapy (she doesn't correct Nika when he mentions therapy is at least helping someone), and Ocean's intent is that we believe she is going to Amber for therapy. Nika wants to know why and wants Bella to help him look in Marla's files. That is there in the game. It doesn't matter if we know the reason yet, Ocean's already put the fact that Nika thinks she's getting therapy in the game.

 

[DarkOs31]

As far as belittling people - how did this chain start?

Original post

That's what i'm trying to figure out right now ,man...
Like i said ,it came of like you are allmighty after you said : Just try playing th game dude.
And the point that it makes no sense that Marla needs therapy because Nika is a part of her problem...
He was never and will never be ,cuz it makes no sense...
All cool ?

 

[BobTheDuck]

That's what i'm trying to figure out right now ,man...
Like i said ,it came of like you are allmighty after you said : Just try playing th game dude.
And the point that it makes no sense that Marla needs therapy because Nika is a part of her problem...
He was never and will never be ,cuz it makes no sense...
All cool ?

We're cool of course - discussion is discussion

Go back to that post and you'll see I was quoted on a different topic, it's pretty natural I'd reply. Someone doubles down, over things that are obviously in the game. I'd say I didn't stop following the game a long time ago.

We don't know what Marla's problem with Nika is, but she is intended as a LI. She'll have a backstory that we find out. I've already mentioned one possibility, that Marla knew about Summer, and that's the reason she wants shared therapy.

When she sees Nika she loses compusure, but when she introduces Vic to the class she doesn't flinch. Maybe she didn't recognise him on the street 100% because she was in a stressful situation, maybe she just realised who he was. When she talks with him the next day she smokes after, but she seems pretty composed about Vic. She talks with Vic in private, but there's no mention of Vic having shared therapy with Marla (which would seem more logical). So the only thing we can assume, is that Ocean hasn't revealed their connection yet.

The reason I mentioned her surname appearing in WiaB, is that is suggests she's been around Wollust for a long time.

Again, these are my thoughts, there's no proof. I do expect we'll find out more about this when Marla does organise a shared therapy session, or we find out from that rooftop discussion we've seen teasers of. We won't know the reason until it gets revealed, that doesn't mean there isn't a reason.

 

[DarkOs31]

Why don't know. Why does Sasha have a scar? We don't know. What was Nami and Nika's deal? We don't know. What is Nadia's story? We don't know.

There is a lot of stuff that is yet to be covered in the game. The point is Marla IS getting therapy (she doesn't correct Nika when he mentions therapy is at least helping someone), and Ocean's intent is that we believe she is going to Amber for therapy. Nika wants to know why and wants Bella to help him look in Marla's files. That is there in the game. It doesn't matter if we know the reason yet, Ocean's already put the fact that Nika thinks she's getting therapy in the game.

YES that's the point!
WE DON'T KNOW ,but you made it a fact that Marla needs therapy because of Nika!
While i'm stubborn about it that it makes no sense,cuz Nika was just a wittness...
Don't you see that flaw in Ocean's script?
I do love his game,i also love WIAB,but this particular point is just plain stupid without the original script...
Why would someone be stressed and need to smoke everytime she's seeing someone who wittnessed an accident,why whould she need a shared therapie session with Nika on top?
Yes,from Marla's pov she need a session with Amber,every sane person would go to Amber,(i would do it too in rl) but there is still NO reason to include Nika without the old script...

 

[BobTheDuck]

YES that's the point!
WE DON'T KNOW ,but you made it a fact that Marla needs therapy because of Nika!
While i'm stubborn about it that it makes no sense,cuz Nika was just a wittness...
Don't you see that flaw in Ocean's script?
I do love his game,i also love WIAB,but this particular point is just plain stupid without the original script...
Why would someone be stressed and need to smoke everytime she's seeing someone who wittnessed an accident,why whould she need a shared therapie session with Nika on top?
Yes,from Marla's pov she need a session with Amber,every sane person would go to Amber,(i would do it too in rl) but there is still NO reason to include Nika without the old script...

As mentioned in my reply above.

It is a fact. There is no other reason, and Marla siad specifically "[name]... you are part of my- problems."

It's pretty clear that there is a reason, and we don't know it yet. Maybe it's a plot hole right now, but once there's a reason we're told, it's no longer a plot hole. Not having a reason yet doesn't mean there isn't one.

Maybe the gun originally was a red herring to make people think that. I mean, ask yourself - if someone pointed a gun at you, would WANT to go into therapy with them? That makes less sense.

 

[DarkOs31]

Fun fact : I never knew Marla could be a LI,i suspected Amber beeing a matchmaker,but not with the MC involved ...
I addmit i never tried the milf route in the book club,cuz i'm so NOT into milfs...

 

[DarkOs31]

It's just i'm not into milfs,i'm in my mid 40's and when i play those games i'm trying to immerse myself into the MC... Why would i wan't milfs when i'm 18+ in those games and all the cute girls are 18+
In rl i'll never be able to feel this young again,except i try to smoothe some cute teens,but that would go against my nature...I'm not that depraved ...